Bible beliefs

[Zouave]

These Marxist kids make me sad.  They don't understand what they are gonna get if they get what they think they want.   Which will be basically nothing....their overlords will have it all.

The overlords have it all right now!!

[Calypso Jones]

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/bible/what-does-meditation-mean-in-the-bible-how-can-i-practice-biblical-meditation.html

the practice of 'meditation' in the bible and the concept of eastern meditation which is what most people think of as meditation today.

[Dirtbomb]

exactly.  thanks for proving my point.

To me you and WMK both appear a little bit confused about meditation what it is and what the Bible says about it. First of all what the Bible says about it isn't very much. The word meditation is only used six times in the King James version of the Bible, and only three times in the new international version. In the King James every mention of meditation is in the Book of Psalms, and of those six times there were five different Hebrew words that were interpreted meditation if you have a Strong's exhaustive Concordance you can look them up in the Hebrew dictionary. The words translated are numbered 7879, 7881, 1900, 1901 and 1902. I believe in 3 of the passages in the King James version have to do with the meditation of the heart, while the remaining 3 have to do with murmuring and complaining.
The other thing is when you speak of meditation people tend to think of that in the Eastern pagan religious practices where you sit in silence you empty your thoughts and let nothing into your mind to where it becomes just blank, as if you become catatonic. This is a dangerous practice and can lead to demonic possession. It is also a required practice in astral projection which requires you to enter a meditative state and also leaves you open to demonic possession.

The places where the word meditation can be found as I said are all in Psalms and are as follows 5:1, 19:14, 49:3, 104:34, 119:97 and 119:99. I would suggest you look up these passages and then look up the Hebrew word that was translated as meditation and study the meaning I think it will give you a whole new perspective.

After you've done that I would suggest that you do the same word search for the word meditate which is used 14 times in the KJV version, with about half of them being in Psalms the others being in Genesis Joshua Isaiah Luke and Timothy. They will lead you to the same conclusion.

[Dirtbomb]

Here is a link to one of several sites for Strong's exhaustive Concordance if you don't happen to have one

https://www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/strongs-exhaustive-concordance/

If that one doesn't work for you just Google it

[Calypso Jones]

Here is a link to one of several sites for Strong's exhaustive Concordance if you don't happen to have one

https://www.biblestudytools.com/concordances/strongs-exhaustive-concordance/

If that one doesn't work for you just Google it

you didn't use the quote function...you didn't use the quote function..  hmm mm mm mm mm mm.


lol   jk

[Dirtbomb]

Being a newbie I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you please explain? I will be happy to respond once I know what you're talkin about.

Sorry I didn't see the LOL and the JK.

Oooops, looks like I forgot about that pesky quote button again eh?

[WMK]

To me you and WMK both appear a little bit confused about meditation what it is and what the Bible says about it. First of all what the Bible says about it isn't very much. The word meditation is only used six times in the King James version of the Bible, and only three times in the new international version. In the King James every mention of meditation is in the Book of Psalms, and of those six times there were five different Hebrew words that were interpreted meditation if you have a Strong's exhaustive Concordance you can look them up in the Hebrew dictionary. The words translated are numbered 7879, 7881, 1900, 1901 and 1902. I believe in 3 of the passages in the King James version have to do with the meditation of the heart, while the remaining 3 have to do with murmuring and complaining.
The other thing is when you speak of meditation people tend to think of that in the Eastern pagan religious practices where you sit in silence you empty your thoughts and let nothing into your mind to where it becomes just blank, as if you become catatonic. This is a dangerous practice and can lead to demonic possession. It is also a required practice in astral projection which requires you to enter a meditative state and also leaves you open to demonic possession.

The places where the word meditation can be found as I said are all in Psalms and are as follows 5:1, 19:14, 49:3, 104:34, 119:97 and 119:99. I would suggest you look up these passages and then look up the Hebrew word that was translated as meditation and study the meaning I think it will give you a whole new perspective.

After you've done that I would suggest that you do the same word search for the word meditate which is used 14 times in the KJV version, with about half of them being in Psalms the others being in Genesis Joshua Isaiah Luke and Timothy. They will lead you to the same conclusion.

The only way you can become confused with the usage of the word "meditation" in the Bible is by trying to give it a meaning that's really not there. No sense to complicate what is simple, as confusion is sure to ensue.

[Calypso Jones]

Being a newbie I don't quite understand what you mean. Could you please explain? I will be happy to respond once I know what you're talkin about.

Sorry I didn't see the LOL and the JK.

Oooops, looks like I forgot about that pesky quote button again eh?

no need to use the quote function for me that time.  I knew who you were addressing and i'm not a quote function  Nazi.

[Dirtbomb]

The only way you can become confused with the usage of the word "meditation" in the Bible is by trying to give it a meaning that's really not there. No sense to complicate what is simple, as confusion is sure to ensue.

[Dirtbomb]

The only way you can become confused with the usage of the word "meditation" in the Bible is by trying to give it a meaning that's really not there. No sense to complicate what is simple, as confusion is sure to ensue.

I agree with what you said and wonder if you would mind sharing what the biblical use of meditation means to you and how you practice it?

[Solar]

Prayer is a form of meditation, as well as talking in tongues as Pentecostals do.

[WMK]

I agree with what you said and wonder if you would mind sharing what the biblical use of meditation means to you and how you practice it?

When I would set out to memorize a book, chapter or verse in the NT, I would thereafter refresh my memory by citing them every so often; first daily, then weekly. Once they were etched in my memory, I would ponder these verses and their Spiritual meaning, so as to gain wisdom and understanding of His Word. It is here that I learned Scripture is instructive in any realm imaginable; Wisdom, Knowledge, Faith... ad infanitum!

[Dirtbomb]

When I would set out to memorize a book, chapter or verse in the NT, I would thereafter refresh my memory by citing them every so often; first daily, then weekly. Once they were etched in my memory, I would ponder these verses and their Spiritual meaning, so as to gain wisdom and understanding of His Word. It is here that I learned Scripture is instructive in any realm imaginable; Wisdom, Knowledge, Faith... ad infanitum!

Well and good IMO.
For me, since the word medication and meditate is used so many times in the Book of Psalms I tend to focus on David and what it meant to him. David was committed to God from his youth and God was always the Center of his life and devotion, so much so that God declared that David was a man after his own heart and made him king of Israel. David communed with God always, and looked for his guidance and instruction in everything he did. But being a man he had his failings and the incident with Bathsheba is a perfect example. It wasn't just the adulterous affair but went well beyond that with the killing of Uriah the hittite. When David got word that his scheme to have Uriah killed in battle had been accomplished, I believe his heart was broken. He realized the evil of his actions and although it isn't written in the scripture I believe he fell to his knees and asked God to forgive him. The reason I think that is because when Nathan the prophet came to David and related the story about a poor man with a pet lamb and the rich man who took it and dressed it for a Wayfaring Stranger David was outraged and passed judgment on the man that had done such a thing. When I read the story or even recall it I can see an aged Nathan pointing his bony finger in David's face and declaring Thou Art the man. David's reply was I have sinned against the Lord. Nathan responded that the Lord had put his sin away and wouldn't require his life. I think in order for that to happen David would have had to repent between the time he heard of Uriah's death and when Nathan showed up. You can find the story in 2nd Samuel 12.
For me meditation is all about communing with God knowing his word and studying it and reflecting on your life in order to be aware of your spiritual condition. You can have sin in your life and not even be aware of it.

[Calypso Jones]

That's an interesting take on David's thinking but not one that I would subscribe to, just my opinion.   It is my opinion  that David being king and Blessed in so many ways by God that he thought nothing of it.   HOw many wives had he by this time...and everything that God warned his people about regarding kings...such as ....don't take more than one wife, don't have stables full of war horses and chariots..these kings ignored.  But shoot, David was collecting wives even before he was  crowned king.   So.   in my opinion, it's like an epiphany when Nathan says, 'it's you'.    Suddenly it dawns on him..

and the punishment....'the sword will never leave your family.'    David, like so many other men chosen by GOd to accomplish something FOR God were poor fathers.   Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Aaron, Eli, SAMUEL...even after watching the failings of Eli, but then, maybe that was BECAUSE of Eli....annnnnnnnd...... David.   Failure to punish Amnon for raping Tamar.   FAILURE to do right by TAMAR.   Letting Absolom get away without punishment for killing Amnon.   His brother's son's part in the scheme by Amnon.   What a mess Sin causes and not just to us but to those around us.  It is far reaching.    like today.

[Dirtbomb]

Yeah David was a really bad King all right. So bad in fact that God told David that his seed would sit on his throne forever. One Jesus of Nazareth