Atheism and Trans: a debate

[RV]

The Jordan Peterson video.

Virtually anything anyone wants to put on tape can be a "video". I would much rather see it and read it for myself. I'll believe the Bible over a video tape any day.

[Sick Of Silence]

Virtually anything anyone wants to put on tape can be a "video". I would much rather see it and read it for myself. I'll believe the Bible over a video tape any day.

I am talking about the Jordan Peterson video!

I was watching Jordan Peterson nuke some atheist and I started to think about the atheist argument against God.

French. Please post the video for reference.

[p1tchblack]

That is your opinion. It's not what I believe, it's not scriptural and it's not fact.

It is my opinion, but based on fact. There's nobody on earth,  as there was in Jesus' day, performing miracles. When you consider the fact that God revealed himself thousands of years after other religions/gods existed and we're believed in, and consider that he revealed himself/Jesus to only the smallest part of the world, it's not surprising that most of the world is not Christian, don't believe in the Christian god and, as a result, will not get to enjoy the "Kingdom of God" on earth when God returns.

[Solar]

It is my opinion, but based on fact. There's nobody on earth,  as there was in Jesus' day, performing miracles. When you consider the fact that God revealed himself thousands of years after other religions/gods existed and we're believed in, and consider that he revealed himself/Jesus to only the smallest part of the world, it's not surprising that most of the world is not Christian, don't believe in the Christian god and, as a result, will not get to enjoy the "Kingdom of God" on earth when God returns.

Kinda sad that you can't see the glory of God all around you. Myself, because of God, I've literally had a blessed life, we talk all the time. Maybe it's time to get back in touch with your spiritual side?

[RV]

It is my opinion, but based on fact. There's nobody on earth,  as there was in Jesus' day, performing miracles. When you consider the fact that God revealed himself thousands of years after other religions/gods existed and we're believed in, and consider that he revealed himself/Jesus to only the smallest part of the world, it's not surprising that most of the world is not Christian, don't believe in the Christian god and, as a result, will not get to enjoy the "Kingdom of God" on earth when God returns.

Really? "No more miracles?" I see it quite differently than you do. When a person comes to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, THAT is a "miracle". When the sun rises in the morning, THAT is a miracle. When I consider how complex and different we all are and yet, the same, THAT is a miracle. When I look at the wonder that is a small child, THAT is a miracle. When I see a beautiful rainbow, THAT is a miracle. When I see how blessed we are to have two wonderful grown children and two wonderful Grandchildren, THAT is a miracle. When I consider how many times things could have come very different for me ending my life, THAT is a miracle. No, God is still in the miracle business, it's just that people don't notice or explain it away, convincing themselves that there are no more miracles.

As far as the "Christian God", I have no idea of what you are referring to. There is but one God. There is but one Son of God. There is but one Holy Spirit. There is but one Bible which is God's word to mankind.

[p1tchblack]

Kinda sad that you can't see the glory of God all around you. Myself, because of God, I've literally had a blessed life, we talk all the time. Maybe it's time to get back in touch with your spiritual side?

The glory of which god? :)  Almost all religions have a creation story, so all the followers can "see" the glory of their particular god around them.  If one of the gods, like the Christian god, were to perform modern day miracles  as he used to do, it would be easy to know which god/religion to follow.

[walkstall]

It is my opinion, but based on fact. There's nobody on earth,  as there was in Jesus' day, performing miracles. When you consider the fact that God revealed himself thousands of years after other religions/gods existed and we're believed in, and consider that he revealed himself/Jesus to only the smallest part of the world, it's not surprising that most of the world is not Christian, don't believe in the Christian god and, as a result, will not get to enjoy the "Kingdom of God" on earth when God returns.

Time for miracles are over.  It is now time; you can believe or not as God gave you free will.  Myself like Solar, I find God talks to me in Gods own way as I talk to God.  It is God that shows me the way in my almost 100 years of life.

[Solar]

The glory of which god? :)  Almost all religions have a creation story, so all the followers can "see" the glory of their particular god around them.  If one of the gods, like the Christian god, were to perform modern day miracles  as he used to do, it would be easy to know which god/religion to follow.

There is but one God. The fact that you even exist proves his miracle of life. I'm sorry you are of little faith, so much so, you want to challenge the very existence of a higher power.

[p1tchblack]

Time for miracles are over.  It is now time; you can believe or not as God gave you free will.  Myself like Solar, I find God talks to me in Gods own way as I talk to God.  It is God that shows me the way in my almost 100 years of life.

People subjectively believe they have free will, but there's no biological/neurological evidence to support it. Our thoughts dictate most  everything we are and do, but we have no control over our thoughts - our thoughts just appear; we don't think them before we think them.

[walkstall]

People subjectively believe they have free will, but there's no biological/neurological evidence to support it. Our thoughts dictate most  everything we are and do, but we have no control over our thoughts - our thoughts just appear; we don't think them before we think them.

There is that WE bullshit.  "we don't think them before we think them".    NO SHIT! 

[RV]

People subjectively believe they have free will, but there's no biological/neurological evidence to support it. Our thoughts dictate most  everything we are and do, but we have no control over our thoughts - our thoughts just appear; we don't think them before we think them.

Right, you may not have free will but, I do. God made me and gave me His word. God says that we do have control over our thoughts through Him. I will believe Him rather than you.

[p1tchblack]

There is that WE bullshit.  "we don't think them before we think them".    NO SHIT! 

Despite the fact that thoughts make us virtually everything we are, no individual person is capable of thinking thoughts before we think them. That makes free will impossible.

[Solar]

Despite the fact that thoughts make us virtually everything we are, no individual person is capable of thinking thoughts before we think them. That makes free will impossible.

How do you figure?
If I sit and ponder what I want to think about, and pick one of 10 subjects to delve into, did I not just exhibit free will?

[walkstall]

How do you figure?
If I sit and ponder what I want to think about, and pick one of 10 subjects to delve into, did I not just exhibit free will?

He does not sound like a person that is a Free Thinker or have free will. 

[Solar]

He does not sound like a person that is a Free Thinker or have free will.

Yep, zero critical thinking skills.