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Offline JoReba

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America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« on: January 05, 2013, 01:40:57 PM »
If anyone requests, I can list sixteen proofs for why America was not founded upon so called "Godly Principles."

Essentially, there are mentioned in The Bible none of the "Inalienable Rights" or "Freedoms" stated in America's Founding Documents.  As well, God is never named in America's Founding Documents.  If you disagree with this, then go ahead and state what are America's "Godly Principles."

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 01:50:33 PM »
The Declaration of Independence states, "[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It also states that these rights are "self evident" and that they constitute the "Laws of Nature." These principles are taken directly from the Bible.

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 01:52:30 PM »
The Declaration of Independence states, "[Men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It also states that these rights are "self evident" and that they constitute the "Laws of Nature." These principles are taken directly from the Bible.

I'll be moving this to the Religion forum.

If those "Rights" are taken directly from The Bible, then step up with which verses and chapters state them.  We can very quickly find out here if you are right or wrong.

Lol.  Can you do it ... ?

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 01:55:32 PM »
If you have something to say, say it.  The founders said "Creator" for a reason, if you want to fill in Budda, Vetivati, or the spaghetti monster, more power to you.  If you have a point, make it, we are not here to do your homewirk or answer your challenges.

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 01:56:38 PM »
If those "Rights" are taken directly from The Bible, then step up with which verses and chapters state them.  We can very quickly find out here if you are right or wrong.

Lol.  Can you do it ... ?
You claimed God was not mentioned, yet Creator is blatantly mentioned giving us unalienable Rights.
The verses you ask for fall under the Ten Commandments.
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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 02:53:07 PM »
You claimed God was not mentioned, yet Creator is blatantly mentioned giving us unalienable Rights.
The verses you ask for fall under the Ten Commandments.

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 02:56:32 PM »
When do I get the 16 proofs I was promised?

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 03:00:23 PM »
When do I get the 16 proofs I was promised?
He's still stuck on the whole "Creator" thing...


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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 04:52:05 PM »
Is JoReba the poster formerly known as "Patriot"?
No, I recognize him from a long time back on another forum, posts like a couple of other libs that make claims they can't back up and got booted for it.
Jo has been a member for over a year.
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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 04:59:30 PM »
If anyone requests, I can list sixteen proofs for why America was not founded upon so called "Godly Principles."

Essentially, there are mentioned in The Bible none of the "Inalienable Rights" or "Freedoms" stated in America's Founding Documents.  As well, God is never named in America's Founding Documents.  If you disagree with this, then go ahead and state what are America's "Godly Principles."

Only sixteen?  Why don't you just post them then?

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 05:01:54 PM »
He's still stuck on the whole "Creator" thing...

I think he is just stuck on stupid...

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 05:18:26 PM »
He's still stuck on the whole "Creator" thing...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
She hadn't quite thought it through before posing the question.
She's one of those raised in a Religious household and hates her parents for it, to this day.
Knows the Bible front to back, hasn't got a clue about the founding documents outside what she's read at mediamatters, and thinks because were conservatives, were all Religious extremists.

You could say I am stereotyping, but I'm not the one that is clueless about the founding documents or hate my Religious parents. :laugh:
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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 05:48:06 PM »
I think he is just stuck on stupid...

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Re: America Was Not Founded Upon Godly Principles.
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 10:03:00 PM »
Lets see if this poor old atheist can clear things up...

"There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus’ "

Galatians 3:28


Sure sounds like "All Men are created equal" to me!

"Well, then', Jesus said, 'give unto Caesar what is Caesar's and give unto God what is God."

Mark 12:17


I think this pretty much equates to the so-called Establishment Clause of the First Amendment of the Constitution - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

What I like to think of as separation of State and Church

There are many more examples, but, it is getting late...


 

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