Air Force dumps ‘so help me God’ from enlistment oath

Started by Solar, September 18, 2014, 02:24:48 PM

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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on November 14, 2014, 05:33:01 PM

Hmm... Just who in the hell is us?   This inquiring mind would like to know.   Before I give Solar a time out.   :smile:
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Pounds desk, stomps feet, throws tantrum, holds breath. Now see what you've done dad? :biggrin:
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walkstall

Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Pounds desk, stomps feet, throws tantrum, holds breath. Now see what you've done dad? :biggrin:

Hmm... I could always put you in the same room with Nancy Pelosi.   :tounge:
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Skeptic

Michelle, I think this discussion is well past it's expiration date. Sometimes we just have to walk away from an argument. Hopefully something we said will get people thinking, and eventually a few might change their views on this topic. But you can't expect people to change overnight.

The hardest skill to master in public speaking, negotiating, debating, etc., is knowing when to walk away after you've planted an idea in someone's mind, and let them work it out. People like to think they arrived at a conclusion all by themselves, so you have to let them critically think and work out the math for themselves. I guarantee that eventually some here will come around to realize that a secular society, where no one is discriminated because of the religious beliefs they have/don't have, is the best protection they have that their religious beliefs will never be infringed by the beliefs of other religious groups.

Skepticism, like chastity, should not be relinquished too readily.

taxed

Quote from: Skeptic on November 14, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Michelle, I think this discussion is well past it's expiration date. Sometimes we just have to walk away from an argument. Hopefully something we said will get people thinking, and eventually a few might change their views on this topic. But you can't expect people to change overnight.

The hardest skill to master in public speaking, negotiating, debating, etc., is knowing when to walk away after you've planted an idea in someone's mind, and let them work it out. People like to think they arrived at a conclusion all by themselves, so you have to let them critically think and work out the math for themselves. I guarantee that eventually some here will come around to realize that a secular society, where no one is discriminated because of the religious beliefs they have/don't have, is the best protection they have that their religious beliefs will never be infringed by the beliefs of other religious groups.

I'm closed minded because I'm open to the mysteries of the universe, open to other dimensions, life on other planets, the supernatural, and the unexplained?
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Solar

Quote from: taxed on November 14, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
I'm closed minded because I'm open to the mysteries of the universe, open to other dimensions, life on other planets, the supernatural, and the unexplained?
You closed minded bigot. How dare you not comply with the demands of the religious zealots faith that believes nothing exists beyond the tangible.
Comply, or we'll take you to court and kill your God!

Yeah, and we're closed minded? :lol:
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Quote from: Skeptic on November 14, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Michelle, I think this discussion is well past it's expiration date. Sometimes we just have to walk away from an argument. Hopefully something we said will get people thinking, and eventually a few might change their views on this topic. But you can't expect people to change overnight.

The hardest skill to master in public speaking, negotiating, debating, etc., is knowing when to walk away after you've planted an idea in someone's mind, and let them work it out. People like to think they arrived at a conclusion all by themselves, so you have to let them critically think and work out the math for themselves. I guarantee that eventually some here will come around to realize that a secular society, where no one is discriminated because of the religious beliefs they have/don't have, is the best protection they have that their religious beliefs will never be infringed by the beliefs of other religious groups.

I actually did.  I clicked on the nifty icon to stop getting notifications of this thread last night and it still shows up in unread posts to me.  I'm not yet familiar with this software.

When the hillbilly types were dancing around the moonshine fire beating their chests I kinda giggled and realized... not everyone learns at the same rate and left the thread.  So I thought.   :biggrin:

I do disagree with you that they will eventually come around.  Facts don't really play a role in religious beliefs.  That is NOT to say that I think people should change their thinking about their spirituality.  That is an extremely personal issue and people have the right to believe in anything they wish!  I'm referring to their claims that this nation is based on Christianity, founded on Christianity, (just goes to show how little some know about our founding fathers and their actions) and the rest of their information.

Do you remember when the whole Pepsi Can saga started?  Christians were in an uproar because of info they *thought* was omitted from the words on a can.  People didn't verify this.  They didn't go look in their own frig and read it for themselves, they went to like minded sites and allowed like minded people to do their thinking for them.  They wanted to boycott Pepsi, slander Pepsi, refuse to ever buy the stuff again.  FINALLY, someone actually read the can and realized... it was nonsense.  None of it was true.

But it goes to prove, when you will only go to those who want to believe as you do ... you tend to get biased info.  That is what many will never learn.

During a time in our govt when people need to come together regardless of religious beliefs and fight that f'er Obola with everything we have (as well as most of our entire govt) some are still living in the Dark Ages and they believe religion will fix it for them.

Not so. 

Many claim it is all the lefties and while the lefties are responsible for the greater majority of our problems today, the extreme righties are at fault as well.  They sat on their collective, largish, back sides waiting for their religion to fix everything.  "Put religion back in schools and that will fix the world!"  Bleh.

These issues should have been taken care of many years ago.  The extreme lefties didn't get any smarter and the extreme righties... their God didn't magically fix it either.

So no, I would have to disagree.  I don't think most will come around.  While Obola continues to destroy our nation they will insist that this is a Christian nation and putting religion back in schools will fix everything.  Obola is banking on dividing the people.  When that little twat is smarter than the Cons... that's one very sad day.

taxed

Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 06:42:19 AM
I actually did.  I clicked on the nifty icon to stop getting notifications of this thread last night and it still shows up in unread posts to me.  I'm not yet familiar with this software.

When the hillbilly types were dancing around the moonshine fire beating their chests I kinda giggled and realized... not everyone learns at the same rate and left the thread.  So I thought.   :biggrin:

I do disagree with you that they will eventually come around.  Facts don't really play a role in religious beliefs.  That is NOT to say that I think people should change their thinking about their spirituality.  That is an extremely personal issue and people have the right to believe in anything they wish!  I'm referring to their claims that this nation is based on Christianity, founded on Christianity, (just goes to show how little some know about our founding fathers and their actions) and the rest of their information.

Do you remember when the whole Pepsi Can saga started?  Christians were in an uproar because of info they *thought* was omitted from the words on a can.  People didn't verify this.  They didn't go look in their own frig and read it for themselves, they went to like minded sites and allowed like minded people to do their thinking for them.  They wanted to boycott Pepsi, slander Pepsi, refuse to ever buy the stuff again.  FINALLY, someone actually read the can and realized... it was nonsense.  None of it was true.

But it goes to prove, when you will only go to those who want to believe as you do ... you tend to get biased info.  That is what many will never learn.

During a time in our govt when people need to come together regardless of religious beliefs and fight that f'er Obola with everything we have (as well as most of our entire govt) some are still living in the Dark Ages and they believe religion will fix it for them.

Not so. 

Many claim it is all the lefties and while the lefties are responsible for the greater majority of our problems today, the extreme righties are at fault as well.  They sat on their collective, largish, back sides waiting for their religion to fix everything.  "Put religion back in schools and that will fix the world!"  Bleh.

These issues should have been taken care of many years ago.  The extreme lefties didn't get any smarter and the extreme righties... their God didn't magically fix it either.

So no, I would have to disagree.  I don't think most will come around.  While Obola continues to destroy our nation they will insist that this is a Christian nation and putting religion back in schools will fix everything.  Obola is banking on dividing the people.  When that little twat is smarter than the Cons... that's one very sad day.

Our country is different than your country.  You're not an American, so it would be tough for you to understand.
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Michelle

Quote from: taxed on November 15, 2014, 08:08:42 AM
Our country is different than your country.  You're not an American, so it would be tough for you to understand.

Sorry to disappoint, the US is my country.  Like it or not, I was born there and still financially do my part to support the country.

Please don't prove that sack of crap Obola correct.  Stop dividing people.  Get rid of illegals and LEGAL US citizens need to stand together.

taxed

Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Sorry to disappoint, the US is my country.  Like it or not, I was born there and still financially do my part to support the country.

Please don't prove that sack of crap Obola correct.  Stop dividing people.  Get rid of illegals and LEGAL US citizens need to stand together.

You're in Mexico.  And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that.  But we're a different culture.
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Michelle

Quote from: taxed on November 15, 2014, 09:01:42 AM
You're in Mexico.  And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that.  But we're a different culture.

Com'on... seriously, you aren't that stupid, right? 

backspace backspace backspace... never mind.  You are that stupid.

Just keep proving Obama right but don't you dare whine anymore.  You are doing everything he wants.   Just sit there and blame the rest of the world.  Do nothing, just sit your butt in your chair and whine.  That is what you do best.  The problems of this country are the fault of people like you.  Extreme lefties and extreme righties.  Do nothing, just bitch.  That's what you do.

taxed

Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Com'on... seriously, you aren't that stupid, right? 

backspace backspace backspace... never mind.  You are that stupid.

Just keep proving Obama right but don't you dare whine anymore.  You are doing everything he wants.   Just sit there and blame the rest of the world.  Do nothing, just sit your butt in your chair and whine.  That is what you do best.  The problems of this country are the fault of people like you.  Extreme lefties and extreme righties.  Do nothing, just bitch.  That's what you do.

I don't think Hussein is keeping you in Mexico.  In fact, he's pretty encouraging for you to come here.

Nobody cares if you're in Mexico.  It has some really, really beautiful parts, but the fact is, you're just probably out of touch.  We celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, are into Easter, and all that stuff, because that's how many of us grew up, atheist or not.  You're not into our American traditions, and don't even live here.  The important thing is you support and promote liberty and keep preaching that message.  Other than that, it would be difficult for you to understand our culture.  I couldn't understand your culture, because I don't live there.  The world is a large place!
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walkstall

Quote from: taxed on November 15, 2014, 09:46:31 AM
I don't think Hussein is keeping you in Mexico.  In fact, he's pretty encouraging for you to come here.

Nobody cares if you're in Mexico.  It has some really, really beautiful parts, but the fact is, you're just probably out of touch.  We celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, are into Easter, and all that stuff, because that's how many of us grew up, atheist or not.  You're not into our American traditions, and don't even live here.  The important thing is you support and promote liberty and keep preaching that message.  Other than that, it would be difficult for you to understand our culture.  I couldn't understand your culture, because I don't live there.  The world is a large place!

A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

daidalos

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Quote from: Michelle on November 15, 2014, 08:58:17 AM
Sorry to disappoint, the US is my country.  Like it or not, I was born there and still financially do my part to support the country.

Please don't prove that sack of crap Obola correct.  Stop dividing people.  Get rid of illegals and LEGAL US citizens need to stand together.
Uh prove it.

Show me your photo ID in color first.

J/K thought I'd act like Facelessbook for a while.

That said, yes we do! And it has zero to do with race. It has to do with the welfare, security, and surivival of our Representative Constitutional Republic.

We need to stand together to oppose a great many things that pose a threat to very survival of these States United. Too bad some liberals and their RINO allies in the GOP don't get that.

We should quite literally.

Number one DEMAND a citizen be given priority treatment over that of someone who shouldn't be here to start with, by the U.S. government in their dealings with that government as is their RIGHT as a citizen.

Number two, stems from number one, stop the foreign aid, and the illegal aid.

UNLESS and UNTIL every last Natural born citizen first recieved that same aid.

The taxpayers work and pay for everything the Federal Government does, and everything the United States does.

It's time that the citizen's of these States United be given priority treatment by the government they pay for.

Past time if you ask me, that the United States government be forced by the people and the states to do this.

Since the Federal government can't recognize the simple truth that those who pay for something, should come first in their dealings with that government.

And those who are citizen's should also be the first to receive any aid being given by the government.

And lastly number three. Stop playing with the terrorists, recognize they are islamic extremist's, and take steps to combat them.

Which actually protect American citizen's, not strip them of God given rights, such as the right not to be searched by the government unless the government first obtains a warrant, and the right not to have government attempt to use it's resources to harass or otherwise abuse American citizen's who are guilty of nothing other than having an opinion and voicing it.

But some don't get the concept of free speech, or freedom from government abuse. Some think that's just A ok...

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