5 Signs of the End Times....

[Solar]

Totally agree Solar about the corruption within the Church.  If I can clarify one thing....the Catholic Church is not corrupt, there are many corrupt and sinful people within the Church.  Some really sick, bad people who have made terrible choices.  If you have read some of the mystics accounts this behavior has been foretold.

Don't know when it is gonna happen but there will be schism coming in the not to distant future within the Church.  For those following the events its not that far away. 

Its good that one talks and prays to God.  Not for sure what you imply when you indicate that you don't need anyone speaking in your behalf.

Maybe your talking about how Catholics pray to the Blessed Virgin Mary? 

Are you aware of the Marian Apparations that have taken place over the course of time?  If not, could you look and listen insofar as what they revealed?  Pretty much the same "show" every time one has occured.  Man needs to get away from sin and play by God's rules.

Chastisement is on the horizon....we, as old as we are may not see it.....but its coming...just look at our way of life and the sins that mankind persist in committing.

Agree, the Pope is in favor of Marxism.
But what I was referring to was absolving ones sins by the church, only God can absolve sins.

[WMK]

Who then wrote Scripture?  Since you indicate you know plenty about "the early church" you would know the authors.

You say "if a belief/doctrine cannot be backed up by Scripture" what say you about the Catholic Mass?  Its right there in the New Testament....

2-Timothy 3:16 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

If it's right there in the NT, then why didn't you quote chapter/verse? Because it not there. That's why.
Drifter, you're speaking of biblical matters that you have no full knowledge of. Your wheelhouse is likely grounded in catholic doctrine, aka Catholicism. This is a discipline which takes portionsof Scripture and transforms them into a religious ritualism exclusive to their church.

[drifter106]

2-Timothy 3:16 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

If it's right there in the NT, then why didn't you quote chapter/verse? Because it not there. That's why.
Drifter, you're speaking of biblical matters that you have no full knowledge of. Your wheelhouse is likely grounded in catholic doctrine, aka Catholicism. This is a discipline which takes portionsof Scripture and transforms them into a religious ritualism exclusive to their church.

Ok...lets start it like this...prior to his agony in the garden, what did Jesus do with his apostle's?  Anything special?

[WMK]

Ok...lets start it like this...prior to his agony in the garden, what did Jesus do with his apostle's?  Anything special?

I can tell you what Jesus didn't do - wash the feet of His disciples, break bread and drink wine with them, then call it, 'mass.'

[drifter106]

I can tell you what Jesus didn't do - wash the feet of His disciples, break bread and drink wine with them, then call it, 'mass.'

At this point and time my only response is this....its 12 o'clock noon, your in an airplane flying at 3,000 ft.  You just flew over New York....and you missed seeing anything.

[WMK]

At this point and time my only response is this....its 12 o'clock noon, your in an airplane flying at 3,000 ft.  You just flew over New York....and you missed seeing anything.

And I would consider that a blessing.

[drifter106]

And I would consider that a blessing.

You may chose, as well as others, of saying its a blessing.  Others would indicate that it was an act of reprobation.

[WMK]

You may chose, as well as others, of saying its a blessing.  Others would indicate that it was an act of reprobation.

Fear not the judgement of men, but of God, Drifter.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

[drifter106]

Fear not the judgement of men, but of God, Drifter.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Fear for looking into a mirror...you could end up catching what your throwing.

[WMK]

Fear for looking into a mirror...you could end up catching what your throwing.

Not big on Chinese fortune cookies myself.

[drifter106]

Not big on Chinese fortune cookies myself.

Just from what we have discussed here and other posts that I have read from you...you seem like a stand up kinda guy.  I appreciate that in a person...but where is this conversation going?  You are pretty much set in your ways as well as I am.  I take it that you have little respect for the Catholic Church and the dogma's attached to the Church.  I assume that you are a reasonable man and would look at things with an open mind and if the evidence was there you might decide to change your way of thinking.

With that thought in mind, what are your thoughts about the Marian Apparations that have happened over the course of time?  What are your thoughts on Divine Mercy and the information that one can get from that "happening"?  Needless to say, there are miracles that go along with all of them and science has no concrete explanation as to how they come about.

This is something I hope we could share our views on....hopefully everybody will have an open mind and consider the validity of what transpired during these events.

What say you.....