Just a Theory from a Christian point of view.

[Darth Fife]

Well, Not really. The time span between the first earth age fallen angels and the story of Noah is a very long time. Centuries even.

Look,there is nothing I can say that you can't rebute. I understand all your points. I have heard them my entire life. Belief is a matter of faith. I can not prove it and you can not disprove it. We can talk circles around each other and I doubt you want to do that any more than I do.

I truly do understand your angle on this topic but there is nothing I can say to dissuade you from that perspective. I have many points to make but it requires me to speak them to you. I hate typing and just really don't want to have to put forth the effort.

Faith is sometimes necessary. However, faith always works best when it is grounded on a foundation of scientific fact, logic and reason.

God gave a highly developed mind capable of comprehending complex abstractions and logic for a very good reason - he expects us to use them!

God doesn't fear science or logic - he invented them.

Darth

[TboneAgain]

Faith is sometimes necessary. However, faith always works best when it is grounded on a foundation of scientific fact, logic and reason.

God gave a highly developed mind capable of comprehending complex abstractions and logic for a very good reason - he expects us to use them!

God doesn't fear science or logic - he invented them.

Darth

Hmmmm.... My understanding of faith is that it is the very antithesis -- the exact opposite, in fact -- of scientific fact and logic and reason. By its very nature and definition, faith involves beliefs that cannot be proven by normal means.

That explains why every attempt to replace religion in our culture involves the Left attempting to replace it with bogus "science." AGW is a perfect example. Actual true science doesn't support the concept of AGW in any way. So we have the spectacle of Leftist pseudo-scientists attempting to use computer models they themselves have fashioned to produce a pre-determined outcome to support AGW. The idea is to lend the pseudo-science the cloak of respectability afforded to faith-based religion by declaring that their preferred "God" (the pseudo-scientists' so-called 'consensus') say it is so. AGW cannot be proven by logical, factual means, so it is, by definition, a matter of faith.

[Rasputttin]

Faith is sometimes necessary. However, faith always works best when it is grounded on a foundation of scientific fact, logic and reason.

God gave a highly developed mind capable of comprehending complex abstractions and logic for a very good reason - he expects us to use them!

God doesn't fear science or logic - he invented them.

Darth

Yes! your last sentence is what I've claimed all these years.

Here's the thing. Why do you trust "science" to tell you there is no God yet reject the same establishment that tells you about global warming?

I'm sorry. I made an assumption, I have no idea what your thoughts on global warming are. I have never heard you comment on it. I am still new here.

Point being that the subversive left has taken control of the field of science. They come to preconceived conclusions to advance a political theocracy. Accepting them here because it fits with your view doesn't explain rejecting them there because it doesn't fit.

Scientists are just humans. They have agendas. 

[Solar]

Yes! your last sentence is what I've claimed all these years.

Here's the thing. Why do you trust "science" to tell you there is no God yet reject the same establishment that tells you about global warming?

I'm sorry. I made an assumption, I have no idea what your thoughts on global warming are. I have never heard you comment on it. I am still new here.

Point being that the subversive left has taken control of the field of science. They come to preconceived conclusions to advance a political theocracy. Accepting them here because it fits with your view doesn't explain rejecting them there because it doesn't fit.

Scientists are just humans. They have agendas.

Well stated.

[daidalos]

The "Winning" of the battle came from more folks FINALLY getting it ! (That there are two viable political Parties right now , so choosing the direction of America means picking ONE of the two for now)

That is simply not true. America has, and always has had a plethora of political parties. Some of whom have and do get elected, some who don't. But this idea that we have or are a bicameral system is simply erroneous, and in fact part of the problem.

It's what has enabled, and lead too the same, lifelong, tired, socialists being re-elected time and again.

In fact the belief that we have a "two party system" is what keeps people like Boehner for example in office for so long.

What else are folks going to do, but elect him, if they think going into the elections that their only option is to pull the vote tab for him or the dim.....

[Darth Fife]

Yes! your last sentence is what I've claimed all these years.

Here's the thing. Why do you trust "science" to tell you there is no God yet reject the same establishment that tells you about global warming?

Despite what the Left would have you believe, many scientists believe in God, just as many don't believe in AGW.

I'm sorry. I made an assumption, I have no idea what your thoughts on global warming are. I have never heard you comment on it. I am still new here.

I'm a retired USN Weather Forecaster/Analyst. And I know AGW is horseshit!

Point being that the subversive left has taken control of the field of science. They come to preconceived conclusions to advance a political theocracy. Accepting them here because it fits with your view doesn't explain rejecting them there because it doesn't fit.

Just because a group of scientists choose to ignore evidence that God exists, does not mean he doesn't exist.

There is evidence that the ancient Greeks knew that the Earth was round, and yet up until the middle ages, scientists taught that the Earth was flat.

Scientists are just humans. They have agendas.

True science is objective. Objectivity has no agenda.

I don't question the existence of God. I take that as a given. I do, however, question how some humans characterize God and his actions.

Those folks have agendas too!

Look at it this way. How many times have we seen some 300 lb trailer park floozie thanking "God" for helping her win the Powerball Lottery? Maybe it is just me, but I feel that the All Powerful Creator of All Things has a few more important things to occupy His time with than helping some obese couch potato pick the winning lottery numbers!

But, hey, that is just me - your mileage may vary!

Darth