Country/Ethno/Folk/Traditional Music

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kalash

Quote from: quiller on May 02, 2016, 03:12:16 AM
Do not drag this forum into your irrelevant Euro issues.
Americans are here because we don't WANT to be in Europe.
Really? Irrelevant? I remember Euro issues was relevant enough to bomb christian Serbia.  And how many american bases in Europe? Strange for people who don't WANT to be in Europe...

quiller

Quote from: kalash on May 02, 2016, 04:49:51 AM
Really? Irrelevant? I remember Euro issues was relevant enough to bomb christian Serbia.  And how many american bases in Europe? Strange for people who don't WANT to be in Europe...

Let us know how life is with Vlad Putin's boot on your miserable necks. Or the Muslims, burning everything your culture stands for.


milos

Quote from: quiller on May 02, 2016, 03:12:16 AM
NATIONALIST the keyword. Do not drag this forum into your irrelevant Euro issues.

Americans are here because we don't WANT to be in Europe. We FLED that insanity and we have our own culture, music and sensibilities. I suggest you find a different forum if you cannot post ENGLISH ONLY and instead come back with putrid excuses later.

I have reported this reply to management.

Lol, ok. On the other side, I would say "irrelevant Euro issues" are the key words in your post, because they are not irrelevant. On the contrary, we have the same enemies, in Europe, in Russia, in America, and those are the progressives, who are trying to destroy our cultures. While the progressives are always united around the world, traditionalists are divided and not interested in helping each other. I just want to make the traditionalists/conservatives unite and fight together against our mutual enemy. I really hate to see European nationalists burning the American flag and blaming America for everything, and Americans not caring for what is happening in Europe. That way the progressives will win. Kalash is also a Russian conservative, but there is some unfortunate misunderstanding here, which I would love to correct. As he mentioned the bombing of Serbia, Clinton has bombed us as a part of a wider progressive plan to establish a Muslim bridge from Turkey into Europe over Kosovo and Bosnia, so that Europe could be invaded by Muslim migrants. Today it is Europe, tomorrow it is America. But if you are not interested in Europe today, then you will be surprised in America tomorrow. It would be better to stop the evil in its beginnings.
One Christ. One Body of Christ. One Eucharist. One Church.

quiller

Didn't read it. Foreign sniveling bores me. Begone.

supsalemgr

Quote from: milos on May 02, 2016, 09:34:38 PM
Lol, ok. On the other side, I would say "irrelevant Euro issues" are the key words in your post, because they are not irrelevant. On the contrary, we have the same enemies, in Europe, in Russia, in America, and those are the progressives, who are trying to destroy our cultures. While the progressives are always united around the world, traditionalists are divided and not interested in helping each other. I just want to make the traditionalists/conservatives unite and fight together against our mutual enemy. I really hate to see European nationalists burning the American flag and blaming America for everything, and Americans not caring for what is happening in Europe. That way the progressives will win. Kalash is also a Russian conservative, but there is some unfortunate misunderstanding here, which I would love to correct. As he mentioned the bombing of Serbia, Clinton has bombed us as a part of a wider progressive plan to establish a Muslim bridge from Turkey into Europe over Kosovo and Bosnia, so that Europe could be invaded by Muslim migrants. Today it is Europe, tomorrow it is America. But if you are not interested in Europe today, then you will be surprised in America tomorrow. It would be better to stop the evil in its beginnings.

I agree we have a common enemy being the progressives. They do not have a nationality as much as they have philosophy to actually build a new world order. Unfortunately, as I see it, we have too many folks in Europe and the USA who are blind to what is going on. Liberals in the US confound me with their embrace of radical Islamists. For some reason they cannot understand that these people do not differentiate between conservatives and liberals. To them we are all infidels. Keep up the good fight.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

milos

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 03, 2016, 04:26:49 AM
I agree we have a common enemy being the progressives. They do not have a nationality as much as they have philosophy to actually build a new world order. Unfortunately, as I see it, we have too many folks in Europe and the USA who are blind to what is going on. Liberals in the US confound me with their embrace of radical Islamists. For some reason they cannot understand that these people do not differentiate between conservatives and liberals. To them we are all infidels. Keep up the good fight.

Thank you so much for this comment. I am pretty sure that the next world war will be between Muslims and progressives on the one side, and Christians, Jews, and conservatives on the other. And it has started already. I should write an essay on how the "not interested" attitude is so deeply wrong. What would have happened if Jesus was "not interested", what would have happened if George Washington was "not interested". Look at the presidential elections for example, I see that it will eventually be Trump vs Clinton, and it's mainly because of the "not interested" attitude. If more people were interested to learn about the candidates, they would have surely opted for Cruz. People should learn from the Jews, the Jews are always interested, they always like to gather information, to know things, to learn who is who and what is what, in order to be prepared to fight for themselves and to defend themselves. The progressives of the world are united, and the conservatives of the world are divided. It is a receipt for disaster. Americans not being interested in Europeans, and Europeans not being interested in Americans. I have been promoting the true American values on European forums and social networks, too, and I am receiving the same "not interested" attitude, or "but they have killed the Native Americans, so let them just die, too", and it is so freaking idiotic. It's like your neighbor is shouting: "Fire!", and you are not interested. And then the fire catches your house too, and you wonder how did it happen. All of the Western civilization is in danger, or should I call it the White civilization and not be labeled racist, whether it is America, Europe, or Russia. Putin is also a Russian conservative, being a dictator or not, and he has the same enemies in the progressives, like the American and the European conservatives also have. I am positive we have to learn about each other in order to cooperate with each other and defend ourselves and win.
One Christ. One Body of Christ. One Eucharist. One Church.

supsalemgr

Quote from: milos on May 04, 2016, 03:46:23 AM
Thank you so much for this comment. I am pretty sure that the next world war will be between Muslims and progressives on the one side, and Christians, Jews, and conservatives on the other. And it has started already. I should write an essay on how the "not interested" attitude is so deeply wrong. What would have happened if Jesus was "not interested", what would have happened if George Washington was "not interested". Look at the presidential elections for example, I see that it will eventually be Trump vs Clinton, and it's mainly because of the "not interested" attitude. If more people were interested to learn about the candidates, they would have surely opted for Cruz. People should learn from the Jews, the Jews are always interested, they always like to gather information, to know things, to learn who is who and what is what, in order to be prepared to fight for themselves and to defend themselves. The progressives of the world are united, and the conservatives of the world are divided. It is a receipt for disaster. Americans not being interested in Europeans, and Europeans not being interested in Americans. I have been promoting the true American values on European forums and social networks, too, and I am receiving the same "not interested" attitude, or "but they have killed the Native Americans, so let them just die, too", and it is so freaking idiotic. It's like your neighbor is shouting: "Fire!", and you are not interested. And then the fire catches your house too, and you wonder how did it happen. All of the Western civilization is in danger, or should I call it the White civilization and not be labeled racist, whether it is America, Europe, or Russia. Putin is also a Russian conservative, being a dictator or not, and he has the same enemies in the progressives, like the American and the European conservatives also have. I am positive we have to learn about each other in order to cooperate with each other and defend ourselves and win.

Interesting comment about Putin. Yes, he is a conservative, but in my view, he is more of nationalistic person. That overshadows the commonality he should have with the West. I went to Russia in 2000 and it was amazing how much Americans had in common with Russians who were embracing their new found freedom. The USA would like to be allies and friends with Russia. However, Putin is moving Russia back to it second world economy with a first world military. It has been proven that model is unsustainable.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

milos

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 04, 2016, 04:27:03 AM
Interesting comment about Putin. Yes, he is a conservative, but in my view, he is more of nationalistic person. That overshadows the commonality he should have with the West. I went to Russia in 2000 and it was amazing how much Americans had in common with Russians who were embracing their new found freedom. The USA would like to be allies and friends with Russia. However, Putin is moving Russia back to it second world economy with a first world military. It has been proven that model is unsustainable.

Yes, but in Europe conservative equals nationalist, because nationalists are those who are embracing the traditional values, and progressives are their enemies, because they want to quit with all traditions and bring forced multiculturalism and tolerance towards any alien phenomena. Ok, I am aware that the American conservatives don't want their culture to be mixed with the European culture, and the European nationalists don't want their culture to be mixed with the American culture, and I understand the "begone" message. But, I also believe that the American conservatives and the European and the Russian nationalists need to get to know each other better, in order to understand each other better, because we are all in the same traditionalist pot, and the progressives are our common enemy. We are all part of the Western civilization as a whole, although the Russians would never admit they belong to the Western civilization, that is why I have called it the White civilization instead, but they really do belong. Russia is also an imperialist and colonialist power, in spite of the fact they like to criticize others for being imperialists and colonialists.

Europeans can provide some valuable information to Americans, and vice versa. There is really a lot of unfortunate misunderstanding because of the lack of true information. For example, Europeans don't know about the problems American ranchers have with the BLM, or the American president overrunning the Constitution, or about the open border with Mexico and Mexican drug cartels. Europeans believe that the United States are a multicultural democracy, and that Mexicans are some quiet and peaceful hard working people who are being molested by the aggressive American capitalists. But they have never heard of the Zetas, and what they do in Mexico. Maybe Europeans and Americans don't need to love each other, but I believe we do need to learn about each other, and to say for example "oh, so that's the way they think", or "oh, so that's the music they like". But if people don't like to hear, then I should apologize for trying to tell them. But he/she who doesn't want to hear today has no excuse to say "I didn't know" tomorrow.

I see American conservatives call themselves patriots rather than nationalists, but it is basically the same. I am not quite sure abot the Russian economy, but I have heard it is much better now than it was during the period of the Soviet Union, and it is partially because Russia doesn't need to support all of the other 14 republics anymore. Russia must have a strong military because they would look like pussies without it, but modern wars are not being fought by military, but by information. So the lack of true information combined with war propaganda can do the crucial damage, while the knowing of the true information can bring a lot of good.
One Christ. One Body of Christ. One Eucharist. One Church.

supsalemgr

Quote from: milos on May 05, 2016, 02:42:10 AM
Yes, but in Europe conservative equals nationalist, because nationalists are those who are embracing the traditional values, and progressives are their enemies, because they want to quit with all traditions and bring forced multiculturalism and tolerance towards any alien phenomena. Ok, I am aware that the American conservatives don't want their culture to be mixed with the European culture, and the European nationalists don't want their culture to be mixed with the American culture, and I understand the "begone" message. But, I also believe that the American conservatives and the European and the Russian nationalists need to get to know each other better, in order to understand each other better, because we are all in the same traditionalist pot, and the progressives are our common enemy. We are all part of the Western civilization as a whole, although the Russians would never admit they belong to the Western civilization, that is why I have called it the White civilization instead, but they really do belong. Russia is also an imperialist and colonialist power, in spite of the fact they like to criticize others for being imperialists and colonialists.

Europeans can provide some valuable information to Americans, and vice versa. There is really a lot of unfortunate misunderstanding because of the lack of true information. For example, Europeans don't know about the problems American ranchers have with the BLM, or the American president overrunning the Constitution, or about the open border with Mexico and Mexican drug cartels. Europeans believe that the United States are a multicultural democracy, and that Mexicans are some quiet and peaceful hard working people who are being molested by the aggressive American capitalists. But they have never heard of the Zetas, and what they do in Mexico. Maybe Europeans and Americans don't need to love each other, but I believe we do need to learn about each other, and to say for example "oh, so that's the way they think", or "oh, so that's the music they like". But if people don't like to hear, then I should apologize for trying to tell them. But he/she who doesn't want to hear today has no excuse to say "I didn't know" tomorrow.

I see American conservatives call themselves patriots rather than nationalists, but it is basically the same. I am not quite sure abot the Russian economy, but I have heard it is much better now than it was during the period of the Soviet Union, and it is partially because Russia doesn't need to support all of the other 14 republics anymore. Russia must have a strong military because they would look like pussies without it, but modern wars are not being fought by military, but by information. So the lack of true information combined with war propaganda can do the crucial damage, while the knowing of the true information can bring a lot of good.

Very astute observation of Americans being patriots and Europeans more nationalistic. I believe that is because of the geographic makeup of the two. America really stands alone whereas European countries are so close together there is a greater desire for individual identity for each country. America is made up of people who came from elsewhere and assimilated into what we are today. Patriots understand that is America's strength and we do not like the desires of those who came here and try to change what we have into what those folks came from. Remembering one's heritage is one thing, but changing what America is to that heritage is divisive from our common interest. Your point is well made that America and Europe has so much in common and both need to try harder to understand the other.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

milos

Quote from: supsalemgr on May 05, 2016, 04:03:41 AM
Very astute observation of Americans being patriots and Europeans more nationalistic. I believe that is because of the geographic makeup of the two. America really stands alone whereas European countries are so close together there is a greater desire for individual identity for each country. America is made up of people who came from elsewhere and assimilated into what we are today. Patriots understand that is America's strength and we do not like the desires of those who came here and try to change what we have into what those folks came from. Remembering one's heritage is one thing, but changing what America is to that heritage is divisive from our common interest. Your point is well made that America and Europe has so much in common and both need to try harder to understand the other.

Yes, in Europe ethnic groups formed their nations, so we usually have a founding nation plus national minorities who both make the citizens. I look at America, Europe, and Russia, similarly as to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost in Christianity. They are three different personalities, but they are also one God at the same time. Similarly to that, we have many different cultures, but we form one civilization altogether. I don't want to bother the people anymore with this topic, but just need to add an important observation. It is not a secret that the United States government is actively participating in creating of both domestic and foreign politics of the European nations, and I am sure you are very well aware of that fact. And that is the reason I, although a foreigner, find the American presidential elections to be very important. When a progressive sits in the White House, then we have progressive American ambassadors, who are making huge efforts to legally enforce the progressive agenda onto us. Also, some American private progressive organizations, such as the Soros Fund Management, are very active in supporting of their fellow European progressives. I was hoping for a true conservative into the White House, so that we could feel a bit of a relief. So, the American progressives are our enemy, while the American conservatives are not interested. And that is why in Europe all Americans appear to be progressive multicultural tolerant democrats. European conservatives are hungry for the people like Mr. Robert LaVoy Finicum was. I wish the American conservatives were more interested to help us, but I suppose this is the way the things are, and will probably never be changed.
One Christ. One Body of Christ. One Eucharist. One Church.

supsalemgr

Quote from: milos on May 06, 2016, 04:32:51 AM
Yes, in Europe ethnic groups formed their nations, so we usually have a founding nation plus national minorities who both make the citizens. I look at America, Europe, and Russia, similarly as to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost in Christianity. They are three different personalities, but they are also one God at the same time. Similarly to that, we have many different cultures, but we form one civilization altogether. I don't want to bother the people anymore with this topic, but just need to add an important observation. It is not a secret that the United States government is actively participating in creating of both domestic and foreign politics of the European nations, and I am sure you are very well aware of that fact. And that is the reason I, although a foreigner, find the American presidential elections to be very important. When a progressive sits in the White House, then we have progressive American ambassadors, who are making huge efforts to legally enforce the progressive agenda onto us. Also, some American private progressive organizations, such as the Soros Fund Management, are very active in supporting of their fellow European progressives. I was hoping for a true conservative into the White House, so that we could feel a bit of a relief. So, the American progressives are our enemy, while the American conservatives are not interested. And that is why in Europe all Americans appear to be progressive multicultural tolerant democrats. European conservatives are hungry for the people like Mr. Robert LaVoy Finicum was. I wish the American conservatives were more interested to help us, but I suppose this is the way the things are, and will probably never be changed.

Let us just hope the American see the electorate see the light and do not elect progressive. One must understand Obama is a dangerous person who thinks he should "rule" the world.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"