That are memorable, but not so much the movie.
It's funny, I personally remember this theme well, even find myself whistling it on occasion, but I'll be damned if I can remember much about the movie.
Any theme songs that stick in your mind, but the movie wasn't all that memorable?
DIMITRI TIOMKIN - THEME FROM "THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJb5rizD6ao#ws)
Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2014, 07:37:08 AM
That are memorable, but not so much the movie.
It's funny, I personally remember this theme well, even find myself whistling it on occasion, but I'll be damned if I can remember much about the movie.
Any theme songs that stick in your mind, but the movie wasn't all that memorable?
DIMITRI TIOMKIN - THEME FROM "THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJb5rizD6ao#ws)
Born Free
The Pink Panther
(anything from) My Fair Lady
Bridge Over the River Kwai
Quote from: quiller on January 30, 2014, 05:30:17 PM
Born Free
The Pink Panther
(anything from) My Fair Lady
Bridge Over the River Kwai
Good picks, especially Bridge Over the River Kwai, the tune is still on my mind decades later.
Quote from: Solar on January 30, 2014, 07:19:23 PM
Good picks, especially Bridge Over the River Kwai, the tune is still on my mind decades later.
Howzabout this one?....
"Exodus" by Henry Mancini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YPozK5Y-0#)
Quote from: quiller on January 31, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
"Exodus" by Henry Mancini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YPozK5Y-0#)
I'm a Huge Mancini fan, there's little that he's done, that I don't like. :thumbup:
Another master practitioner of the "big sound" was Dimitri Tiomkin....
The Magnificent Seven Soundtrack Suite (Elmer Bernstein) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IBC9D1wfbc#)
When this song first hit theaters --- and that massive ship first showed on-screen, our theme music tastes changed forever....
Star Wars Theme Song By John Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMNNpIksaI#)
Quote from: quiller on January 31, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
Howzabout this one?....
"Exodus" by Henry Mancini (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YPozK5Y-0#)
What about Lawrence of Arabia or Dr. Zhivago????
Quote from: Little Nan on February 24, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
What about Lawrence of Arabia or Dr. Zhivago????
You're evidently a Maurice Jarre fan, mentioning his two sole hits.
"Lara's Theme" (aka "Somewhere My Love") wasn't too bad, if you like musical treacle, but the Arab propaganda with Peter O'Toole was unmemorable for its soundtrack.
Ennio Morricone. Pick one...
Ennio Morricone, Five Man Army.Main Title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L2eQcHkSCg#)
Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2014, 07:37:08 AM
That are memorable, but not so much the movie.
It's funny, I personally remember this theme well, even find myself whistling it on occasion, but I'll be damned if I can remember much about the movie.
Any theme songs that stick in your mind, but the movie wasn't all that memorable?
DIMITRI TIOMKIN - THEME FROM "THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJb5rizD6ao#ws)
Hi,
Mighty Ducks :smile:
Blessings,
Karen
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 05, 2014, 03:24:32 PM
Ennio Morricone. Pick one...
Ennio Morricone, Five Man Army.Main Title (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L2eQcHkSCg#)
ABSOLUTELY! He is one of the last great composers for the western genre.
Swords! Sorcery! Mayhem! Soaring majestic TV fantasy!
Game of Thrones Main Theme Official Soundtrack Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-TOHc7I1pc#ws)
It's a Roy Budd / Mediterranean-sun kinda day
Roy Budd - The Marseille Contract (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD20PC8Kgks#)
fire-up the Citroën CX
663 Squadron!
633 Squadron - Opening scene and theme tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-nFa6R0qFU#ws)
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 24, 2014, 06:47:02 PM
663 Squadron!
633 Squadron - Opening scene and theme tune (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-nFa6R0qFU#ws)
Darth
I can't believe you picked that one out of the crowd.
When I was a kid, a trip to the movies was always the same -- we went downtown to the Victory Theater and watched whatever Walt Disney release was playing. The first movie I ever saw was Pinocchio, and it went like that all my kid days.
But my grandma (mom's mom) was a bit more lenient, and she took me downtown (Dayton, OH) and let ME pick the theater and the movie. It was "633 Squadron." It was actually a pretty crappy movie, not the sort of thing Cliff Robertson became famous for. The special effects were frankly awful.
But Grandma and I had a GREAT time! We ate popcorn and I got to see planes flying and shooting each other to pieces... it was a good day.
I would pay a great deal to get that day back.
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 24, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
I can't believe you picked that one out of the crowd.
When I was a kid, a trip to the movies was always the same -- we went downtown to the Victory Theater and watched whatever Walt Disney release was playing. The first movie I ever saw was Pinocchio, and it went like that all my kid days.
But my grandma (mom's mom) was a bit more lenient, and she took me downtown (Dayton, OH) and let ME pick the theater and the movie. It was "633 Squadron." It was actually a pretty crappy movie, not the sort of thing Cliff Robertson became famous for. The special effects were frankly awful.
But Grandma and I had a GREAT time! We ate popcorn and I got to see planes flying and shooting each other to pieces... it was a good day.
I would pay a great deal to get that day back.
I saw it on T.V. it seemed to be a go to movie for networks when the baseball game got rained out!
I've always been fond of the DeHavilland Mosquito and have built countless models of it over the years - mostly the Monogram 1/72 kit.
I absolutely loved the music! It works well with Aviation themed video.
BTW check out the writing credits for the film! :wink:
Darth
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 24, 2014, 08:13:43 PM
I saw it on T.V. it seemed to be a go to movie for networks when the baseball game got rained out!
I've always been fond of the DeHavilland Mosquito and have built countless models of it over the years - mostly the Monogram 1/72 kit.
I absolutely loved the music! It works well with Aviation themed video.
BTW check out the writing credits for the film! :wink:
Darth
You have to hand it to the Brits. "We ain't got enough aluminum." (They say it 'aluminium' for some reason.) We'll just make the wings out of plywood." And they did.
But think about this -- two Rolls-Royce Merlin V-12s would probably make a septic tank fly. :tounge:
"The Vikings" (Kirk Douglas/Tony Curtis/Ernest Borgnine) "Big Trouble in Little China" (Kurt Ressell)
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 24, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
I can't believe you picked that one out of the crowd.
When I was a kid, a trip to the movies was always the same -- we went downtown to the Victory Theater and watched whatever Walt Disney release was playing. The first movie I ever saw was Pinocchio, and it went like that all my kid days.
But my grandma (mom's mom) was a bit more lenient, and she took me downtown (Dayton, OH) and let ME pick the theater and the movie. It was "633 Squadron." It was actually a pretty crappy movie, not the sort of thing Cliff Robertson became famous for. The special effects were frankly awful.
But Grandma and I had a GREAT time! We ate popcorn and I got to see planes flying and shooting each other to pieces... it was a good day.
I would pay a great deal to get that day back.
I have a similar grandma-moment over sugar cookies, so I understand, really I do. (No sarcasm, but heavy on the whimsy.)
And I agree this wasn't one of Robertson's best films, the stuff he did become better-known for. (Pause, two, three....) He's like in, um,
everything!.....
It astounds me that James Clavell (
Shogun) co-wrote this with Howard Koch
(War of the Worlds radio script) and the admirably-competent Mirisch studio produced this, but not one of the other people in the cast or the credited crew did ANYTHING ELSE of note. Robertson was their star, the rest unknowns.
The only explanation that makes sense is, Clavell and Koch must have turned out a substandard script, no big-name stars or crew wanted to be in it, and they snagged Robertson trying to save the film. That opening scene alone is WAAAAAY dark. That's not a bad print, that's bad cinematography and direction. Editing was by hedge-trimmers, but that's a Mirisch thing more than say Pinewood or other UK studios.
The "Game of Thrones" extended theme (link hopefully more permanent than before)....
Game of Thrones Extended Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9d9UrK0Jsw#ws)
The Theme from "Midnight Cowboy" , "Patton" theme :popcorn:
Meet Taxed and the CPF moderators. Hear their thunder!
Two Steps From Hell - To Glory (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2hRTLdvdnk#ws)
Quote from: quiller on November 25, 2014, 06:34:50 AM
I have a similar grandma-moment over sugar cookies, so I understand, really I do. (No sarcasm, but heavy on the whimsy.)
And I agree this wasn't one of Robertson's best films, the stuff he did become better-known for. (Pause, two, three....) He's like in, um, everything!.....
It astounds me that James Clavell (Shogun) co-wrote this with Howard Koch (War of the Worlds radio script) and the admirably-competent Mirisch studio produced this, but not one of the other people in the cast or the credited crew did ANYTHING ELSE of note. Robertson was their star, the rest unknowns.
The only explanation that makes sense is, Clavell and Koch must have turned out a substandard script, no big-name stars or crew wanted to be in it, and they snagged Robertson trying to save the film. That opening scene alone is WAAAAAY dark. That's not a bad print, that's bad cinematography and direction. Editing was by hedge-trimmers, but that's a Mirisch thing more than say Pinewood or other UK studios.
Totally agree. I get the feeling that the budget was the problem here.
Here is the same song used for an aviation video on youtube. It works pretty well here too!
Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport (1925 - 1998) 香港啟德機場 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PCOcyt7BPI#)
Darth
Excuse my cinematic brain fart, above, but it's the U.S. branch of Mirisch which produced the most hits (and had the highest-quality final product). The UK branch which produced this film also did the Pink Panther films but (as with this film) never became all that profitable without Peter Sellers in the cast.
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 25, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
Totally agree. I get the feeling that the budget was the problem here.
Here is the same song used for an aviation video on youtube. It works pretty well here too!
Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport (1925 - 1998) 香港啟德機場 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PCOcyt7BPI#)
Darth
Jesus! What a shitty forced landing flight path!
I read that the History Channel ranked Kai Tak on their list of
Most Extreme Airports at only #6. I don't think I'd care to see video of the top five.
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 28, 2014, 07:06:38 PM
Jesus! What a shitty forced landing flight path!
I read that the History Channel ranked Kai Tak on their list of Most Extreme Airports at only #6. I don't think I'd care to see video of the top five.
I was there in 1967 and '72, and both times heard numerous stories of near-misses at that bizarrely-laid-out airfield. I agree about seeing the top five: even secondhand stories were scary enough.
Quote from: TboneAgain on November 28, 2014, 07:06:38 PM
Jesus! What a shitty forced landing flight path!
I read that the History Channel ranked Kai Tak on their list of Most Extreme Airports at only #6. I don't think I'd care to see video of the top five.
I saw a TV program on the World's 10 Most Dangerous Airports. One of the top five had a cliff face at the end of the runway. Just after you got off the ground you had to make a sharp turn, or hit the cliff. Another had you landing going uphill. The one at Gibraltar has you coming around The Rock - which creates weird air currents - to land at an airport built out into the ocean. BTW, we may be talking about the same program.
Hunt For Red October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsL2WVhFCc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPsL2WVhFCc)
E. T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVoFCP1BLg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVoFCP1BLg)
Remember "Breakfast at Tiffany's" theme song? You can probably name two or three OTHER Henry Mancini songs...but nothing comes close to his terrific theme for the Steve Railsback film "Lifeforce".....
Henry Mancini - Theme From Lifeforce (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsV7TuNMr5M#)
Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 25, 2014, 07:02:16 AM
The Theme from "Midnight Cowboy" , "Patton" theme :popcorn:
I don't think Harry Nilsson's "Everybody's Talking" made the movie. It actually didn't chart very well, as I recall, and what actually made the movie was its X rating, at a time when the rating system was in its infancy.
As for the "Patton" theme.... there really wasn't one. Some echoing trumpets playing a few notes don't comprise a theme song. In any case, no music made "Patton." The film speaks for itself.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 24, 2015, 01:12:59 AM
It actually didn't chart very well
Thank God. -As evidenced by nobody hearing of Nilsson ever again.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 24, 2015, 09:25:23 PM
Thank God. -As evidenced by nobody hearing of Nilsson ever again.
Ah, you forget "Without You" and "Coconut" (she put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up...) which were released a couple years after the Midnight Cowboy theme. Also, I remember watching an animated film he had much to do with about a kid and his dog Arrow. "Me and My Arrow." Remember that?
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 24, 2015, 10:02:54 PM
Ah, you forget "Without You" and "Coconut" (she put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up...) which were released a couple years after the Midnight Cowboy theme. Also, I remember watching an animated film he had much to do with about a kid and his dog Arrow. "Me and My Arrow." Remember that?
I don't think so. I previewed and maintained a 16mm print of 'The Point' when I worked in a public library's film-department. It was animated... and the score strikes a faint familiarity with Nilsson's featherweight fare. Nothing else stands out about it.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 25, 2015, 04:06:09 AM
I don't think so. I previewed and maintained a 16mm print of 'The Point' when I worked in a public library's film-department. It was animated... and the score strikes a faint familiarity with Nilsson's featherweight fare. Nothing else stands out about it.
Yeah, that's the movie, "The Point." "Me and My Arrow," which is a thing with a point, that points. Get it?
I remember the film as being somewhat entertaining, but I was a youngster then, with a skull full o' mush, as Rush would describe it.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 25, 2015, 01:24:52 PM
Yeah, that's the movie, "The Point." "Me and My Arrow," which is a thing with a point, that points. Get it?
I remember the film as being somewhat entertaining, but I was a youngster then, with a skull full o' mush, as Rush would describe it.
Nah... you were soaking everything in. 1971 was a good year for films, but horrible for film-scores. Probably Issac Hayes'
Shaft-score was the most notable.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 25, 2015, 04:51:11 PM
Nah... you were soaking everything in. 1971 was a good year for films, but horrible for film-scores. Probably Issac Hayes' Shaft-score was the most notable.
I've always considered the 1970s -- the decade when I came of age -- to be a cultural wasteland. There was a little of the good stuff left over from the 1960s, and there were hints that the 1980s would offer better things. But for some reason we had to endure disco and leisure suits and the shittiest and ugliest automobiles ever made.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 25, 2015, 05:09:14 PM
I've always considered the 1970s -- the decade when I came of age -- to be a cultural wasteland. There was a little of the good stuff left over from the 1960s, and there were hints that the 1980s would offer better things. But for some reason we had to endure disco and leisure suits and the shittiest and ugliest automobiles ever made.
I dunno, I just plowed-on like always. FM kept disco caged-up. I didn't have an opinion of leisure-suits. Yeah, it was a horrible decade for cars. Harley Earl died in '69 and the UAW's bloated tantrums changed the marketplace.
You guys still had Marty Brenneman, Weideman's beer, and the big red whatever's...
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 25, 2015, 10:20:29 PM
I dunno, I just plowed-on like always. FM kept disco caged-up. I didn't have an opinion of leisure-suits. Yeah, it was a horrible decade for cars. Harley Earl died in '69 and the UAW's bloated tantrums changed the marketplace.
You guys still had Marty Brenneman, Weideman's beer, and the big red whatever's...
"And this one belongs to the Reds!" You know Brennaman is
still doing it after 41 years (he's 72). Wiedemann was pretty nasty stuff, as I recall, but we had Schoenling and Hudepohl and Burger to fall back on. (Yeah, I know, that's a ways to fall back, especially to the Burger.)
I think the Big Red Machine was one of the major bright spots for me in that decade. The '75-76 Reds may just have been the best damn team that ever played the game, and I don't want to hear any crap from some Yankees fan. Pete Rose. Johnny Bench. Joe Morgan. Tony Perez. Davy Concepcion. George Foster. Ken Griffey (Junior's old man). Cesar Geronimo. Over those two seasons, that exact lineup played 88 games and won 69 of them. Of course, with their usual efficiency, the Reds' management traded almost the entire team away within a few years. But wow. Just wow. Smoked the Yankees in four straight. Wow.
During the 1970s I went from high-school sophomore to father and homeowner, rather a sharp transition. I started the decade driving a '66 Corvair burning 31-cent 91-octane premium leaded gas and ended it driving a '76 Mustang burning 60-cent 87-octane unleaded regular. (It was the decade after the first Earth Day, the first ten years of the goddamned EPA.) The Corvair was a damn good car; the Mustang was an excruciating piece of shit.
Somewhere in between, I had one of the first Hondas sold in the US, a '72 600 Sedan, bought at the behest of my mother-in-law. It turned out to be another good reason to hate that old bitch. Honda makes good cars these days, but back then they were peddling four-wheeled motorcycles. Mine was called a 600 Sedan because that's how big the motor was -- 596 cc. Two cylinders. Air cooled. I used to buy parts for it at the local Honda bike shop. Ten inch wheels and tires. Curb weight about 1,300 lbs. It broke down once in the middle of the night on a rural highway near Hillsboro, OH. I called Dad to come and get me, and he drove down in his '69 Chevy half-ton pickup. We dragged that little car into the nearest 'burg, pushed it up on the truck-scale ramp, backed Dad's truck up to the side of the ramp, swung that car around sideways, and rolled it into the bed of Dad's truck. I swear to God. The tires squeaked a bit as they rubbed the truck's wheelwells, but it fit quite nicely, and we could almost raise the tailgate with the car in there. I ended up selling that POS to a guy who owned a body shop; he already had two just like it, and he needed one with a decent body so he could cannibalize all three to make one good car.
For a while I had a '72 Chevy Vega I used for a work vehicle. I bought it for $147.52. My brother-in-law had it, and called me one day to ask me if I'd come help him put a clutch in it. (That was the BIL's way of saying "Will you come put a clutch in my car for me?") I said OK and volunteered to stop and pick up the parts, which cost me $47.52. When the job was done (easiest clutch I ever changed, actually) I asked the BIL what he planned to do with the car, and he told me he was thinking about selling it. One thing led to another, and I covered the parts bill and gave him a C-note, and the Vega was mine. I used to carry spare spark plugs and a plug wrench in the glove box because the #1 fouled all the time. That thing could be tracked all over the county by the blue cloud behind it. I remember too the big black smears all over the front fenders (the car was painted white). The front tires he had on it were recaps. (Remember those?) I'd be driving down the road and suddenly hear "slap, slap, slap, whap, whap, whack, whack whack, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM" and then zing! A big long slab of rubber tread would go flying into the ditch, and I'd have a new set of black smears on my front fender.
I think except for several hundred of the most significant events in my life, I don't miss the seventies at all. :tounge:
2001: A Space Odyssey! Great piece of music for that themes-song!!! WOW!
Quote from: WashingtonLives on April 26, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey! Great piece of music for that themes-song!!! WOW!
Deodato's version....
Deodato - Also Sprach Zarathustra HQ audio (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJK3eUP5Hvg#)
Talk about found by accident, this item got filed by YouTube under the Deodato name, which is technically true since he composed the piece this anonymous musician played with, to substitute his own bass riffs for the original. This is a rare case where it works, and works very well. Bass fans should like this one.
Bass riff - Will Lee(?) - Funk Yourself - Deodato (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fllTMtl6dxs#)
Quote from: WashingtonLives on April 26, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey! Great piece of music for that theme-song!!! WOW!
The symphonic version!
Richard Strauss - Also Sprach Zarathustra (2001: A Space Odyssey) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cheoHwHoyUw#ws)]
Fixed the link.
walks
Quote from: WashingtonLives on April 26, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey! Great piece of music for that themes-song!!! WOW!
Remember it well. A time when I was adapting to being a full blown idiot teen.
Great theme, and yes, aside from great effects, it made an otherwise dull, anticlimactic movie into an capstone of the 60s.
Quote from: Solar on April 26, 2015, 07:20:23 AM
Remember it well. A time when I was adapting to being a full blown idiot teen.
Great theme, and yes, aside from great effects, it made an otherwise dull, anticlimactic movie into an capstone of the 60s.
Clarke's work suffers almost as badly as anything else from the sci-fi writers of our "yoots." The job Hollyweird has done on Robert Heinlein, for example. But with "2001," it wasn't just dull, it was pointless. I realized that after watching it on DVD. The fact I paid for it makes me adapting to being a full blown idiot of my own sort. It's ghastly.
Quote from: quiller on April 26, 2015, 07:27:33 AM
Clarke's work suffers almost as badly as anything else from the sci-fi writers of our "yoots." The job Hollyweird has done on Robert Heinlein, for example. But with "2001," it wasn't just dull, it was pointless. I realized that after watching it on DVD. The fact I paid for it makes me adapting to being a full blown idiot of my own sort. It's ghastly.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was trying to be nice, dammit! :biggrin:
But it's true, if not for the effects (of it's time), the movie was one long boring moment of wasted time, I'll never get back.
Quote from: quiller on April 26, 2015, 07:27:33 AM
Clarke's work suffers almost as badly as anything else from the sci-fi writers of our "yoots." The job Hollyweird has done on Robert Heinlein, for example. But with "2001," it wasn't just dull, it was pointless. I realized that after watching it on DVD. The fact I paid for it makes me adapting to being a full blown idiot of my own sort. It's ghastly.
I'd be willing to bet you never read the book. (Hard to do in 1967, since the book wasn't published until after the movie's run.) 2001 is one of those experiences that's meaningless without some clues as to WTF is going on. Once you know that, it is truly a work of genius... except that last part, which was just cheap crappy chromatization effects.
The whole project was a collaboration between Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick. Clarke was the literary and imaginative power and Kubrick, of course, was a movie maker. As the project progressed, the relationship between the two deteriorated; Clarke had a lot of other irons in the fire, and he wasn't even in the country a lot of the time. (Pre-internet, pre-email, pre-cellphone days.) Kubrick just wanted to make the damn movie; he also had a reputation for not playing well with others. Eventually, and before the film was finished, the two men essentially went their separate ways. Kubrick finished the film on his own, which I think explains that ridiculous mish-mash toward the end. Clarke finished the story on his own, but the novel wasn't published until after the movie was out of theaters.
Although the film is one of my personal favorites, and considered to be among the best sci-fi movies ever made, it has its flaws. There's too little dialogue, for one thing. I know that the silence had a purpose, but it was taken too far, leaving viewers in the dark about a lot of things. The movie also was too short, in my opinion, to tell the whole story clearly. In a number of ways, it's an example of a story (or a book) that wasn't adequately transferred to film.
The first time I saw it, I walked out of the theater confused. What the hell did I just see? Later I got a paperback copy of the book Clarke had published, and as I read it, I found myself saying, "Oh! THAT's what it meant," or "THAT's what that was." The movie, I think, should never be shown to people who haven't read the novel. Without knowledge of Clarke's story, Kubrick's film really is a beautifully produced nothingburger. FWIW, Clarke wasn't happy with Kubrick's finished product either, and there was discussion at the time about Clarke's name being taken off the credits altogether -- at his request.
As an example of the disconnect between novel and film, I'd first mention the aliens. And you would say "What aliens?" And we'd both be right. Remember the black slab? First it was with the apes, then it was gone. Then it was buried on the moon. Then it was out beyond Jupiter with a hundred-year-old Dave Bowman. If you read the book, you'd understand what that thing is, how it works, and most importantly, how it got to be in all those places, and why. There be aliens! But watching the movie, which features no non-primate creatures other than the tapirs and the wild cat in the beginning, you wouldn't know that. Those aliens are actually the prime movers in the story, but they're not in the movie at all. Those aliens are the reason all the weird shit in the movie happens, but without any knowledge of the aliens' part in things, it's just weird shit.
Another example of the disconnect is the treatment of "Hal," the HAL9000 computer. In the film, "he" comes across as sort of evil and conniving, but you have no idea why. The novel fleshes out that part of the story. What the movie never shows you is that Hal was suffering from the digital version of schizophrenia. He had been programmed, on the one hand, to render true and accurate information. On the other hand, Hal had been programmed to protect The Mission at all costs, taking whatever actions made sense in his "mind" to facilitate that. On the third hand (Hal is a computer; he can have as many hands as he wants.), Hal was programmed to HIDE information, specifically the true nature of The Mission, from Dave Bowman and Frank Poole. (The true nature of The Mission was fully known to the dudes in hibernation, but who they are and what they're even doing on board the Discovery is another thing never touched upon in the movie.)
I think the story, and the novel Clarke wrote, is utterly wondrous and imaginative. I think the film Kubrick made is, in large part, a technical masterpiece, with many of its special effects worthy of anything Hollywood can make even today. I wouldn't want to part with either experience -- reading the book or seeing the film. (I own a commemorative copy of both the DVD and the soundtrack on CD.) But I freely admit that the film is simply impossible to fully appreciate without the background of the story in the novel.
As for the music, I adore it. But the movie featured no original music. All of it was classical stuff taken from a variety of sources. The "shuttle to the space station" segment, which featured some of the best special visual effects, was decorated with Johann Strauss' "The Blue Danube," done by the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra. What everyone thinks of as the movie's "theme" music is Richard Strauss' "Also Sprach Zarathrustra" (Thus Spake Zarathrustra), performed by the Vienna Philharmonic. The action in the film was fitted to the existing recordings, sort of the opposite of most movie music.
Excellent review. I can't add anything to it. I liked it a lot... as the first film to make space actually look like Space. I only started Clarke's first novel; Against The Fall Of Night... His work is just too eclectic.
The Rod Serling-scripted Planet Of The Apes was released pretty close to 2001's. I saw each one about 3 times.
The two films will always be linked together in my mind, for obvious reasons.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 26, 2015, 04:24:45 PM
Excellent review. I can't add anything to it. I liked it a lot... as the first film to make space actually look like Space. I only started Clarke's first novel; Against The Fall Of Night... His work is just too eclectic.
The Rod Serling-scripted Planet Of The Apes was released pretty close to 2001's. I saw each one about 3 times.
The two films will always be linked together in my mind, for obvious reasons.
Clarke was a visionary, and a hell of a storyteller. He foresaw concepts like shuttle travel, satellite communication, space stations, and others. I'm glad his masterwork (2001) got the film attention it did. I'm sad the movie wasn't about two hours longer. The story deserves four or five hours to tell in movie form.
And you're right, for the first time, 2001 presented space as space looks. But even further, it presented the utter silence of space.... almost. If you listen carefully, in the space shots where there's no music, there's a sort of quiet hiss. It's not silence, but it's close, and it's consistent. What you don't hear is the noise of physical impacts or rocket engines. I think the scenes where Bowman defeated Hal and re-entered Discovery through the emergency door and then invaded the core of Hal himself and started removing memory modules represented that whole concept quite well. The shot of the escape hatch blowing off the excursion pod -- the utter silence of the detonation of the explosive bolts -- was powerful specifically because of the silence. I think 2001 was the first film to present that aspect of space travel, and I have to say that very few later sci-fi space flicks have met that standard.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 26, 2015, 09:54:18 PM
The story deserves four or five hours to tell in movie form.
-Definitely deserves it. Because the HAL-segment (upon final edit, and the artist's regard for how a piece will
age) mushroomed out-of-proportion to the obelisk's
mythos.
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 27, 2015, 03:27:22 PM
-Definitely deserves it. Because the HAL-segment (upon final edit, and the artist's regard for how a piece will age) mushroomed out-of-proportion to the obelisk's mythos.
Well, yeah. There were no villains except Hal, and you just gotta have a villain! There has to be conflict to keep attention high. Nobody had an issue with what you call the obelisk. But Hal, on the other hand, was killin' people! Once the story moved to Jupiter space, there were only three characters to choose from -- Dave and Frank, who seemed to get along famously, and Hal.
The more I think about it, the more I see that Clarke's story wasn't told at all in the film. How could you possibly tell the story without even mentioning the aliens? Sure, they were only briefly and vaguely described in Clarke's book, but, regardless of their level of description, they were the protagonists from start to finish. Every single event that took place in the entire story (and in the movie) was a result of their doings. But you can watch that movie a hundred times and never see or hear of an alien of any description.
As a matter of fact, the movie could never possibly make sense without the alien angle. I often watch the movie and love the shit out of it, but that's because I read the book and know the story. If you didn't read the book and don't know the story, the movie is, as has been mentioned by previous posters, a waste of time. That is actually the way I felt walking out of the theater after seeing it for the first time way back when.
The books sounds worth checking-into. I have more cynical views about space now, though.
A geometric-shape presumes certain things...
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 28, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
The books sounds worth checking-into. I have more cynical views about space now, though.
A geometric-shape presumes certain things...
I recommend the book highly! It's only 236 pages in the paperback edition, which you can pick up at
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=srs%3D9187220011%26search-alias%3Dtradein-aps&field-keywords=2001+a+space+odyssey+book) for a few bucks. (Clarke was not given to thousand-page barn-burners, and the whole thing began with a short story of his in the first place.) Give yourself a special treat. Get your mitts on the book, read it twice, then sit down and watch the movie on DVD..... for the first time. Instead of a series of sparkly, slick mysteries, you'll see a continuum, a logical progression from start to finish. It will make sense. You'll find that, while the visual effects are literally breathtaking and beyond state of the art for their day, they are very much secondary to the story.
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 29, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
I recommend the book highly! It's only 236 pages in the paperback edition, which you can pick up at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=srs%3D9187220011%26search-alias%3Dtradein-aps&field-keywords=2001+a+space+odyssey+book) for a few bucks. (Clarke was not given to thousand-page barn-burners, and the whole thing began with a short story of his in the first place.) Give yourself a special treat. Get your mitts on the book, read it twice, then sit down and watch the movie on DVD..... for the first time. Instead of a series of sparkly, slick mysteries, you'll see a continuum, a logical progression from start to finish. It will make sense. You'll find that, while the visual effects are literally breathtaking and beyond state of the art for their day, they are very much secondary to the story.
Readin' it... In Chapter 2... Moon Watcher returning to the
New Rock...
Quote from: kit saginaw on April 30, 2015, 07:15:09 PM
Readin' it... In Chapter 2... Moon Watcher returning to the New Rock...
Hehehe..... Have you slapped your forehead yet? Are you having moments of, "Aaaahhhh! THAT's what that was!" yet? You'll find that the "new rock" is a pretty talented rock, with some very talented minds behind it.
All of John Williams' music!
Quote from: TboneAgain on May 01, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
Hehehe..... Have you slapped your forehead yet? Are you having moments of, "Aaaahhhh! THAT's what that was!" yet? You'll find that the "new rock" is a pretty talented rock, with some very talented minds behind it.
Yes, I've had a major
ah hah! moment, with Moon Watcher's clan being singled-out for ability-testing. The movie couldn't depict that in the time it needed to. Right now, I'm at the part where the leopard is being assessed for execution.
Great description of the obelisk's visual effects... :thumbup:
Quote from: kit saginaw on May 01, 2015, 02:57:44 PM
Yes, I've had a major ah hah! moment, with Moon Watcher's clan being singled-out for ability-testing. The movie couldn't depict that in the time it needed to. Right now, I'm at the part where the leopard is being assessed for execution.
Great description of the obelisk's visual effects... :thumbup:
More to the point, the movie couldn't (and didn't in any way) point out the ability-testing without acknowledging and explaining the aliens, who were, of course, conducting the testing in the first place. That's the REALLY big thing the film just ignored, and the production suffered because of that. Actually, in my opinion, the entire opening sequence of the film is useless without acknowledgement of the presence of alien beings. You can
presume, if you have an active and fanciful imagination, that aliens were at work, but nothing in the film backs that up.
As I've said before, the story can't really be told without the aliens -- and I use that term loosely -- because without them, nobody would do the things they do. Certainly there's a parallel to real life. I don't doubt that the Kenyan's government, for example, would hide evidence of extraterrestrial existence (or anything else, for that matter) if it met their political goals. But from the storyteller's viewpoint, the tale can't be told without them. For that reason, Kubrick, in my opinion, failed in his duty to tell the story. The existence of the aliens, and of their long-term objectives, is all that could ever hold the whole tale together.
You will see exactly what I'm talking about as you explore Clarke's story.
Ok...had to get the book...paperback on Amazon for 1 penny (plus the 3.99 s & h) Good deal! Should be interesting! :thumbup:
Before you're finished with the novel, you'll be exposed to nothing less than an alternative theory of evolution -- Clarke's fascinating idea of species alteration by means of alien intervention. His description of the activities of the aliens, and specifically what they do in their travels, could substitute for the actions of God.
Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying that Clarke was an atheist or an agnostic or anything else, and I'm not promoting or denigrating any sort of religious belief. In fact, after reading 2001, I can't believe that Clarke was agnostic. His work embodied the concept of a higher power. The aliens in Clarke's story were nothing if not a higher power.
The short story on which the novel is based was called "The Sentinel." Think about the monolith buried under the surface of the Tycho crater for millions of years, waiting all that time for exposure to the sun. Like a good sentinel, it sent out its shout when the event it was assigned to monitor happened. It took millions of years for mankind to find "TMA-1," but when the sun finally touched the monolith's surface, it was time to blow the trumpet, to sound the alarm, to shoot that radio beam on a trajectory that almost struck Jupiter, and nearly blew the eardrums out of the folks posing for pictures nearby at the time. The message -- it's time for the next shift, the next mutation, the next skills test. Or perhaps the message was just that somebody has found the thing buried on Earth's moon, and it's time to take another look in that direction.
Y'all will find one thing in the book, if nothing else -- depth.
Well, I'm just about starting Chapter-10...
But my personal unrelated opinion of the universe is that A)- it's free-market capitalism out there. B)- it's strong predator vs. less-strong predator... so it's probably not good that Earth is a blue sparkle*, theoretically attracting attention. (* I've no data that defines the universal median of xray/visual/ultraviolet spectral resonance. Dinosaurs living in the poles' long nights, had bigger eyes, thus were bigger delicacies for egg-snatchers.)
Quote from: TboneAgain on May 05, 2015, 02:14:13 AM
Before you're finished with the novel, you'll be exposed to nothing less than an alternative theory of evolution -- Clarke's fascinating idea of species alteration by means of alien intervention. His description of the activities of the aliens, and specifically what they do in their travels, could substitute for the actions of God.
Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying that Clarke was an atheist or an agnostic or anything else, and I'm not promoting or denigrating any sort of religious belief. In fact, after reading 2001, I can't believe that Clarke was agnostic. His work embodied the concept of a higher power. The aliens in Clarke's story were nothing if not a higher power.
The short story on which the novel is based was called "The Sentinel." Think about the monolith buried under the surface of the Tycho crater for millions of years, waiting all that time for exposure to the sun. Like a good sentinel, it sent out its shout when the event it was assigned to monitor happened. It took millions of years for mankind to find "TMA-1," but when the sun finally touched the monolith's surface, it was time to blow the trumpet, to sound the alarm, to shoot that radio beam on a trajectory that almost struck Jupiter, and nearly blew the eardrums out of the folks posing for pictures nearby at the time. The message -- it's time for the next shift, the next mutation, the next skills test. Or perhaps the message was just that somebody has found the thing buried on Earth's moon, and it's time to take another look in that direction.
Y'all will find one thing in the book, if nothing else -- depth.
What you just described was L Ron Hubbard's theory which he based on Scientology, a Godless religion.
They too believe that we are essentially alien seed, that God had nothing to do with it, all the while ignoring the elephant in the room, the God that created the alien.
Something my brother and I used to argue about often, that is, until he left the so called "Church".
He joined back during it''s founding, lived and worked on Hubbard's ship for a decade, till he finally realized he had absolutely no future.
Back to the topic, sorry for the derail.
Quote from: Solar on May 05, 2015, 06:26:59 AM
What you just described was L Ron Hubbard's theory which he based on Scientology, a Godless religion.
They too believe that we are essentially alien seed, that God had nothing to do with it, all the while ignoring the elephant in the room, the God that created the alien.
Something my brother and I used to argue about often, that is, until he left the so called "Church".
He joined back during it''s founding, lived and worked on Hubbard's ship for a decade, till he finally realized he had absolutely no future.
Back to the topic, sorry for the derail.
I think it's already derailed... :biggrin: In a
good way. It's the kind of subject that will re-rail itself.
Quote from: kit saginaw on May 05, 2015, 03:35:31 PM
I think it's already derailed... :biggrin: In a good way. It's the kind of subject that will re-rail itself.
Well, then speaking of Scientology.... :biggrin:
Judy Garland - Follow the yellow brick road (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmqRx3ypWwU#)
Quote from: TboneAgain on May 05, 2015, 02:14:13 AM
Before you're finished with the novel, you'll be exposed to nothing less than an alternative theory of evolution -- Clarke's fascinating idea of species alteration by means of alien intervention. His description of the activities of the aliens, and specifically what they do in their travels, could substitute for the actions of God.
Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying that Clarke was an atheist or an agnostic or anything else, and I'm not promoting or denigrating any sort of religious belief. In fact, after reading 2001, I can't believe that Clarke was agnostic. His work embodied the concept of a higher power. The aliens in Clarke's story were nothing if not a higher power.
The short story on which the novel is based was called "The Sentinel." Think about the monolith buried under the surface of the Tycho crater for millions of years, waiting all that time for exposure to the sun. Like a good sentinel, it sent out its shout when the event it was assigned to monitor happened. It took millions of years for mankind to find "TMA-1," but when the sun finally touched the monolith's surface, it was time to blow the trumpet, to sound the alarm, to shoot that radio beam on a trajectory that almost struck Jupiter, and nearly blew the eardrums out of the folks posing for pictures nearby at the time. The message -- it's time for the next shift, the next mutation, the next skills test. Or perhaps the message was just that somebody has found the thing buried on Earth's moon, and it's time to take another look in that direction.
Y'all will find one thing in the book, if nothing else -- depth.
Starting Chapter 17, just before actually meeting HAL. So Dave's fave book was Homer's
Odyssey, eh?
Quote from: TboneAgain on April 26, 2015, 09:54:18 PM
Clarke was a visionary, and a hell of a storyteller. He foresaw concepts like shuttle travel, satellite communication, space stations, and others. I'm glad his masterwork (2001) got the film attention it did. I'm sad the movie wasn't about two hours longer. The story deserves four or five hours to tell in movie form.
And you're right, for the first time, 2001 presented space as space looks. But even further, it presented the utter silence of space.... almost. If you listen carefully, in the space shots where there's no music, there's a sort of quiet hiss. It's not silence, but it's close, and it's consistent. What you don't hear is the noise of physical impacts or rocket engines. I think the scenes where Bowman defeated Hal and re-entered Discovery through the emergency door and then invaded the core of Hal himself and started removing memory modules represented that whole concept quite well. The shot of the escape hatch blowing off the excursion pod -- the utter silence of the detonation of the explosive bolts -- was powerful specifically because of the silence. I think 2001 was the first film to present that aspect of space travel, and I have to say that very few later sci-fi space flicks have met that standard.
" It's full of stars... "I've finished the book. Just about everything in it packs way more of a punch than the film could present. Notably, the station's location in Saturn's orbit. Not Jupiter's, as Kubrick couldn't get Saturn to 'look right' on film. The essence of the book is the journey to Saturn's rings.
The journey through the
gate was as narratively-balanced as the descriptions through-out. And it's an enlightening wrinkle to depict the
aliens as caring in a not-caring-who-found-them pattern.
Bravo.
-from Cellular, with Jason Statham...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6s0rKc9bwk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6s0rKc9bwk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxg162QbDw
One of the movies, and especially the theme song, which made my childhood. But that princess was freakin' ugly, she still gives me the creeps. :toungsmile: I remember I had to comfort myself: "At least she's a blonde. At least she's a blonde." :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7KBIMFlRRY
Quote from: milos on December 19, 2015, 08:35:53 AM
One of the movies, and especially the theme song, which made my childhood. But that princess was freakin' ugly, she still gives me the creeps. :toungsmile: I remember I had to comfort myself: "At least she's a blonde. At least she's a blonde." :smile:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7KBIMFlRRY
Even as an adult, I loved that movie and especially the sound track. :thumbup:
This one's not from a movie, it's an opening theme from a TV series, and it certainly made the series, since I can't possibly remember anything in this series but the opening theme. It brings back memories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is5ofSHZWTM
Quote from: milos on August 23, 2016, 01:52:12 PM
This one's not from a movie, it's an opening theme from a TV series, and it certainly made the series, since I can't possibly remember anything in this series but the opening theme. It brings back memories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is5ofSHZWTM
The song was a hit, but I have never heard of that show before. I think it was done by Roy Orbison, but to lazy to confirm it.
Best sitcom theme in my book was
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvvSI5k7r8
Quote from: Solar on August 23, 2016, 02:10:10 PM
The song was a hit, but I have never heard of that show before. I think it was done by Roy Orbison, but to lazy to confirm it.
Crime Story was an all-out romp set in the early 1960s, following the Chicago police effort to take down a mobster on his way up to controlling the Las Vegas gambling world. It's packed with good music, funny characterization and terrific old cars. Good stuff!
Quote from: quiller on August 24, 2016, 04:14:22 AM
Crime Story was an all-out romp set in the early 1960s, following the Chicago police effort to take down a mobster on his way up to controlling the Las Vegas gambling world. It's packed with good music, funny characterization and terrific old cars. Good stuff!
ADDED:My apologies for not including Del Shannon's marvelous song "Runaway," but unfortunately the only YouTube copy I could quickly find was awful audio, and this from the David Letterman TV show not much better. But here he is, live, and that song remains as strong in 2016 as when it first aired so long ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSkV9pdzLgo
Quote from: quiller on August 24, 2016, 04:14:22 AM
Crime Story was an all-out romp set in the early 1960s, following the Chicago police effort to take down a mobster on his way up to controlling the Las Vegas gambling world. It's packed with good music, funny characterization and terrific old cars. Good stuff!
I see it aired in the 80s. I wasn't watching much TV then, I was building my businesses. I literally nearly missed TV after the 70s, until the VCR was invented.
I never really have been a much of a TV consumer, sure, I had my favorites, but caught much of them in reruns, because of the nature of the media and how it devolved since the early 60s, where the family gathered around to be entertained for an hour, to the marketing of minority groups in the 80s.
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2016, 06:12:25 AM
I see it aired in the 80s. I wasn't watching much TV then, I was building my businesses. I literally nearly missed TV after the 70s, until the VCR was invented.
I never really have been a much of a TV consumer, sure, I had my favorites, but caught much of them in reruns, because of the nature of the media and how it devolved since the early 60s, where the family gathered around to be entertained for an hour, to the marketing of minority groups in the 80s.
At the risk of spawning deep discussions on splintered family units, let it be known we embraced the same tool which allowed that splintering --- the Internet. And the advent of electronic games. And cell phones.
We
axed for it, y'all. Every last one of us.
So back to
Crime Story. I'm not finding full-length episodes, but this should show you enough samples to give you a good idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-gi5A7q1Es
This was director Michael Mann's early work before his triumph in
Thief, and in
Heat, and it ably shows off ex-Chicago cop Dennis Farina in his first starring role. It's got the gorgeous
Jackie Brown star Pam Grier in a strong role as half of a mixed couple, and --- did I mention the music?
It's twenty bucks for the series and well worth it. Seriously.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_11/154-6351182-8734749?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=crime+story+complete+series+dvd&sprefix=crime+story%2Cmovies-tv%2C290&rh=n%3A2625373011%2Ck%3Acrime+story+complete+series+dvd&ajr=0
Quote from: quiller on August 24, 2016, 06:33:57 AM
At the risk of spawning deep discussions on splintered family units, let it be known we embraced the same tool which allowed that splintering --- the Internet. And the advent of electronic games. And cell phones.
We axed for it, y'all. Every last one of us.
So back to Crime Story. I'm not finding full-length episodes, but this should show you enough samples to give you a good idea.
This was director Michael Mann's early work before his triumph in Thief, and in Heat, and it ably shows off ex-Chicago cop Dennis Farina in his first starring role. It's got the gorgeous Jackie Brown star Pam Grier in a strong role as half of a mixed couple, and --- did I mention the music?
It's twenty bucks for the series and well worth it. Seriously.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_11/154-6351182-8734749?url=search-alias%3Dmovies-tv&field-keywords=crime+story+complete+series+dvd&sprefix=crime+story%2Cmovies-tv%2C290&rh=n%3A2625373011%2Ck%3Acrime+story+complete+series+dvd&ajr=0
"Thief, and in Heat"? :lol: Never heard of it either.
Like I said, I'm not a big fan of TV media, not in the slightest, follow no one, nor series, let alone who directs this mind numbing drivel of distraction.
Sorry Q, but Hollywood to me, is something to be avoided, not admired.
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2016, 06:56:55 AM
"Thief, and in Heat"? :lol: Never heard of it either.
Like I said, I'm not a big fan of TV media, not in the slightest, follow no one, nor series, let alone who directs this mind numbing drivel of distraction.
Sorry Q, but Hollywood to me, is something to be avoided, not admired.
Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino appeared for the first time together in the film
Heat, a very tight intelligent cops-'n'-robbers film which followed up on James Caan's bravura role in
Thief. I strongly believe these are seminal modern crime-film masterpieces in their own right.
No real argument that TV produces more drek than gold. Over the 50 years or so this medium has produced DVDs for us cultists, almost no comedy holds up, few drama series (most
despite horrendously-trendy/outdated motifs), and since the JFK era increasingly nihilistic and negative.
I don't have a TV hook-up. I buy the good TV shows, and they're out there. It's just time-consuming to find them and enjoy them for what they are. The stuff that I too missed out on in the 1980s. At least the stuff worth the money.
Quote from: quiller on August 24, 2016, 07:09:43 AM
Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino appeared for the first time together in the film Heat, a very tight intelligent cops-'n'-robbers film which followed up on James Caan's bravura role in Thief. I strongly believe these are seminal modern crime-film masterpieces in their own right.
No real argument that TV produces more drek than gold. Over the 50 years or so this medium has produced DVDs for us cultists, almost no comedy holds up, few drama series (most despite horrendously-trendy/outdated motifs), and since the JFK era increasingly nihilistic and negative.
I don't have a TV hook-up. I buy the good TV shows, and they're out there. It's just time-consuming to find them and enjoy them for what they are. The stuff that I too missed out on in the 1980s. At least the stuff worth the money.
You drop these names as if they carry some sort of special weight. They don't, they're pretenders, they are over paid puppets, false personas.
I know, I used to be a thespian, an actor, a paid liar if you will. I know these people, they are more fucked up that 90% of the population, which is why Hollywood is a microcosm of all that is wrong with the US.
It's beyond me as to why people hold these scum up as role models.
Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2016, 12:07:49 PM
You drop these names as if they carry some sort of special weight. They don't, they're pretenders, they are over paid puppets, false personas.
I know, I used to be a thespian, an actor, a paid liar if you will. I know these people, they are more fucked up that 90% of the population, which is why Hollywood is a microcosm of all that is wrong with the US.
It's beyond me as to why people hold these scum up as role models.
Never said that I held them up as anything but what are considered to be among America's most prolific and popular actors (though Pacino outshouted himself later in his career and became his own stereotype). Personally they are all liberals and what beliefs they may espouse are probably no less loathsome than 105% of Hollyweird.
Quote from: Solar on January 30, 2014, 07:19:23 PM
Good picks, especially Bridge Over the River Kwai, the tune is still on my mind decades later.
The whistling? It's called Colonel Bogey March
More information:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Bogey_March
(in case your curious)
Not exactly a theme song that made the movie, but certainly one of the most beautiful movie scenes ever. The tune, the ambient, the singer/actress, nothing less than the sheer class.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oblSQl45Ro
Happy Birthday John Williams...
How could we forget John Williams Starwars theme?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgKKziGpbsw