I was looking at a "D" movie (makes a "B" movie look like Citizen Kane, on the SyFy channel the other night. You know, almost no plot. Incredibly stupid human beings with absolutely no survival instinct. Really, really bad CGI. And as they piled the cliches one on top of the other, i began to wonder if anyone else has a particularly dumb cliche that drives them up a wall. Like how a character is about to escape and an article of clothing gets caught - and they waste valuable time trying to free themselves  - as opposed to tearing themselves loose and running like hell. Or forgetting that humans are primates - but no one considers escaping the killer fish by climbing a tree. Or someone runs up and tells you something with lots of teeth and appetite is headed your way - and the character they just told, stops to argue about that being a physical impossibility. Or how about Hollyweird allowing their politics to seep over into everything. For example, because Hollyweird is anti gun, no one is armed - when any sane human being would be (how about stepping onto either of the Jurassic park Islands - and not be armed to the teeth - say what!). They do these things over and over again. Is there some reason they keep using the same old tired plot devices? Is it part of the bylaws of the Screenwriters guild. Or just simple laziness. I mean we all loved it when Indiana simply shot the swordsman, so why not more surprising scenes?

Hmmmmm...   Most Dem's are 18 to 35, so it helps the as the can not think on there own.   ;D   But that's just my way of thinking.  :))

Now you know WHY some of us do not look at TV.   ;D

Quote from: walkstall on April 29, 2011, 05:20:43 PM
Hmmmmm...   Most Dem's are 18 to 35, so it helps the as the can not think on there own.   ;D   But that's just my way of thinking.  :))

Now you know WHY some of us do not look at TV.   ;D

You may be on to something here, they play to a certain demographic, "young and stupid!"

One of my points of contention is when these leftists try and portray the Military in the poorest of light.
Last night we got a new DVD from Netflix called "Surface", I love scifi! 8)
This one really sucked, the Gov called a quarantine on a tiny town on the coast, they had the Army abusing the citizenry as if everyone were criminals.
I guess these idiots never read the Constitution, the Military can't be used in this manner.
But hey, its Hollyweird. ::)

I have always loved it in movies when the "weak" female runs from her crazed attacker and always manages to fall down, twist an ankle and gets caught....    :o :o

Quote from: Solars Toy on April 29, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
I have always loved it in movies when the "weak" female runs from her crazed attacker and always manages to fall down, twist an ankle and gets caught....    :o :o

Or when she manages to slap him.
Yeah, that works well.

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After some hugely expensive theatrical flops, the major studios decided to focus on known audience types, and cater to genre productions which meet all the required action and plot points suited to that genre.

It does not have to be good. U.S. television actors (until about 2000) rarely were much good, anyway. (You do know the guy in House is English, yes? Hugh Laurie has more talent in his little toe than most of the simpletons.)

If you want stereotypes, look at how Hollywood tends to like Brits and foreigners for the villain's job. Gary Oldman disproves it's the accent that makes the bad guy (though Hans Gruber and later his brother BOTH had strong English accents). Ian Richardson and Ian MacShane --- or O'Toole or Burton or legions more --- all were brilliantly evil on-screen.

Hollywood hires foreigners to try and make up for poor decisions made during their writing-by-committee process. (John Hurt gets a fair chunk of that trade, saving Hellboy and epitomizing the new Big Brother, in V for Vendetta. Among a whole bunch of others.)

Quote from: Danny Borden on April 29, 2011, 09:21:53 PM
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Interesting Danny. :)

Quote from: Solars Toy on April 29, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
I have always loved it in movies when the "weak" female runs from her crazed attacker and always manages to fall down, twist an ankle and gets caught....    :o :o

How about she's in the attic with the killer, and she screams while backing up - past the fireplace poker, the baseball bat, great-grandpa's old calvary sword - you know - the stuff she might actually use to defend herself!  ::)

Quote from: mdgiles on May 01, 2011, 04:52:35 PM
How about she's in the attic with the killer, and she screams while backing up - past the fireplace poker, the baseball bat, great-grandpa's old calvary sword - you know - the stuff she might actually use to defend herself!  ::)

:D :D :D :D
One of my issues with bad horror films is, they will wander all throughout the house in pitch dark, when all they had to do was turn on a freakin light.

Or the phone rings and the caller says hes watching you, and the person sits there and cowers on the couch.
I know if I had gotten one of those calls as a kid, the first thing I would have done is grab my M1 Carbine, then dial "O" get the cops and call the neighbor to tell them I just called the cops on your sorry ass, and the cops are on the way, but who will get there first, my 30 caliber round, or the cops.

They'd never pull that shit again. :D

Quote from: mdgiles on May 01, 2011, 04:52:35 PM
How about she's in the attic with the killer, and she screams while backing up - past the fireplace poker, the baseball bat, great-grandpa's old calvary sword - you know - the stuff she might actually use to defend herself!  ::)

I know - everything at their disposal and all they do is stand and scream.  Usually in the middle of nowhere so there is no one to hear them.

Or better yet the car that ran fine 15 minutes ago now will not start....  isn't that the kind of emergency the gun in the glove box is for?   :) :)

How this looking at Ironman (A movie I love incidentally) the other day. Two things.
First, there is the scene where Tony Stark is coming back from the weapons demonstration - in a simple convoy of Humvees. Uh, Stark is a major defense contractor, not to mention a certified genius. Think they might provide a little more security? You know couple of strikers. Some Apaches flying top cover. Predators to keep an eye on what's going on.
Second Stane takes Stark's "Arc Generator" - which he replaces with the prototype he made in a cave in Afghanistan. I don't know about you, but if I had Stark's money and his facilities: and if my life depended on it, I would have a wall safe full of "Arc Generators".

Oh, and will someone explain to "Gen. Thuderbolt Ross" that the 13th Amendment means "Bruce Banner" can't be "government property"?

Once again it required that the hero act like an idiot, to advance the plot.

Quote from: mdgiles on May 08, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
How this looking at Ironman (A movie I love incidentally) the other day. Two things.
First, there is the scene where Tony Stark is coming back from the weapons demonstration - in a simple convoy of Humvees. Uh, Stark is a major defense contractor, not to mention a certified genius. Think they might provide a little more security? You know couple of strikers. Some Apaches flying top cover. Predators to keep an eye on what's going on.
Second Stane takes Stark's "Arc Generator" - which he replaces with the prototype he made in a cave in Afghanistan. I don't know about you, but if I had Stark's money and his facilities: and if my life depended on it, I would have a wall safe full of "Arc Generators".

Oh, and will someone explain to "Gen. Thuderbolt Ross" that the 13th Amendment means "Bruce Banner" can't be "government property"?

Once again it required that the hero act like an idiot, to advance the plot.

:D :D :D :D
Normally I would say they thought you would never notice, but in this case, Hollywood is clueless about our Bill of rights.
They are simply ignorant, and think that the Gov owns everything, and merely doles out what they think we need or should have.

Quote from: Solar on May 08, 2011, 04:37:30 PM
:D :D :D :D
Normally I would say they thought you would never notice, but in this case, Hollywood is clueless about our Bill of rights.
They are simply ignorant, and think that the Gov owns everything, and merely doles out what they think we need or should have.

It's something you see time after time in movies. It's the operating assumption that the government can do just about anything. Think about the "Incredible Hulk". There's one scene where they are the army is simply coming on to a University's campus to apprehend him. Like some left wing university is going to be understanding about it? This place have a School of Law?  And last I checked, the FBI would be the ones apprehending Banner inside the US. Little thing called Posse Comitatus? I realize that these movies are based on comic books, but that's simply basic knowledge. I don't recall anything about the Governor of the state that university was in declaring Martial Law?

Oh yeah, and a General, sitting in a civilian bar, in uniform, getting drunk (and disgracing the uniform he's worn for about forty years) - only in Hollywood's dreams.

Quote from: mdgiles on May 08, 2011, 05:23:51 PM
It's something you see time after time in movies. It's the operating assumption that the government can do just about anything. Think about the "Incredible Hulk". There's one scene where they are the army is simply coming on to a University's campus to apprehend him. Like some left wing university is going to be understanding about it? This place have a School of Law?  And last I checked, the FBI would be the ones apprehending Banner inside the US. Little thing called Posse Comitatus? I realize that these movies are based on comic books, but that's simply basic knowledge. I don't recall anything about the Governor of the state that university was in declaring Martial Law?

Oh yeah, and a General, sitting in a civilian bar, in uniform, getting drunk (and disgracing the uniform he's worn for about forty years) - only in Hollywood's dreams.

Now you know where most libs get their education, Hollywood.