When Men Were Men, and Women Were Glad Of It

Started by quiller, March 20, 2014, 07:06:52 AM

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quiller

Take a terrific soundtrack and irresistible early film footage, and you've got an enjoyable 23-minute tour of early logging in the upper Northwest. Just building the railroad to haul wood out on became a Herculean task in itself, and how did they get logs out with all those stumps and deadwood?....

Allison Logging - Coastal Logging in the early 20th Century

Hat tip to SippicanCottage.com for the link and stolen thread title....

http://sippicancottage.blogspot.com/2014/03/when-men-were-men-and-women-were-glad.html

TboneAgain

Good stuff, GREAT video! I really enjoyed it, being interested in both logging and railroading. The video didn't emphasize it much, but I can get lost reading about the railways they built and operated (and soon tore down) in those hills -- narrow-gauge specialty rolling stock designed for steep slopes and tight turns. Shays and Heislers running on temporary 3-0 gauge track, geared all-wheel-drive powerplants with articulating frames and shaft-driven fuel tenders... love that stuff!
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on March 20, 2014, 07:56:53 AM
Good stuff, GREAT video! I really enjoyed it, being interested in both logging and railroading. The video didn't emphasize it much, but I can get lost reading about the railways they built and operated (and soon tore down) in those hills -- narrow-gauge specialty rolling stock designed for steep slopes and tight turns. Shays and Heislers running on temporary 3-0 gauge track, geared all-wheel-drive powerplants with articulating frames and shaft-driven fuel tenders... love that stuff!
Little forgotten trivia.

Back in the days when I was a cowboy on an old established ranch here in the Sierra, we had two locations, one in the foothills, the other near Donner pass, known as Eure valley by the same name, and the family still owns the Eure valley and ranch, the foothill ranch was forced out by the Pelosi group, I kid you not.

The original ranch was a dairy ranch that supplied the miners with fresh dairy products, while the logging industry that supported the mining industry with support timber in the mines also needed dairy.

Here's the trivia, the mule trains would bring the logs to the flume built of lumber, these flumes sending logs could run more than a mile to the American river below, where the logs floated to Sutter's Mill.
The flumes not being all that smooth needed grease in places to keep the logs moving, so they used butter.
This had a two fold payoff, one, the logs slid freely to the river, while feeding the miners, because game would get hit by logs while licking the butter in the flumes.

Of course there is a lot more to the story.
This is a piece of history trivia that I have no doubt will be lost at some point, since the method was short-lived.
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Mountainshield

I still log wood at my cabin, I prefer birch which are about 10-14meters, so nothing hardcore as those loggers in that video  :tounge:
Do you have to pay for each tree and file a permission form to the communal government in the US as you have to do in Norway?

As for the women being glad about men being men, had an accident 2 months ago (which is one of the reasons I'm not here so often now) but before that I had lived a liberal marriage with my wife though we both are conservative, I changed that after the accident and not only is my wife a lot more happier, I feel better and damn the coitus is now greater than I ever before thought possible, damn how much better it is being "old school" :laugh:


Solar

Quote from: Mountainshield on March 30, 2014, 05:31:29 AM
I still log wood at my cabin, I prefer birch which are about 10-14meters, so nothing hardcore as those loggers in that video  :tounge:
Do you have to pay for each tree and file a permission form to the communal government in the US as you have to do in Norway?

As for the women being glad about men being men, had an accident 2 months ago (which is one of the reasons I'm not here so often now) but before that I had lived a liberal marriage with my wife though we both are conservative, I changed that after the accident and not only is my wife a lot more happier, I feel better and damn the coitus is now greater than I ever before thought possible, damn how much better it is being "old school" :laugh:
Nah, as of yet they leave you alone unless you clear cut a large portion.

So what changed in your marriage?
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Quote from: Solar on March 30, 2014, 05:41:42 AM
Nah, as of yet they leave you alone unless you clear cut a large portion.

So what changed in your marriage?

Well the division of labor changed from the norwegian model too the 1950's correct form
Norwegian Model: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/us-womensday-oecd-survey-idUSBREA251NF20140306

But the biggest difference is instead of always asking for permission for everything and making compromises I just take the lead and if my wife disagrees then we discuss it. It's hard to explain a relationship in a few sentences but the essence is I changed the ideal model from contemporary culture to my grandparents culture. I didn't do it before because I thought it would make my wife unhappy as she hates machismo latin culture, but I found out that it is a big difference between being machistic and being a real man aka conservative.

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Quote from: Mountainshield on March 30, 2014, 06:19:47 AM
Well the division of labor changed from the norwegian model too the 1950's correct form
Norwegian Model: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/us-womensday-oecd-survey-idUSBREA251NF20140306

But the biggest difference is instead of always asking for permission for everything and making compromises I just take the lead and if my wife disagrees then we discuss it. It's hard to explain a relationship in a few sentences but the essence is I changed the ideal model from contemporary culture to my grandparents culture. I didn't do it before because I thought it would make my wife unhappy as she hates machismo latin culture, but I found out that it is a big difference between being machistic and being a real man aka conservative.
I see, we too have that PC bull shit ruining the latest generation.
Like you, I am head of household, that's it, I have the final say. Period.
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