Quote from: Walter Josh on December 01, 2015, 05:30:40 PM
Solar, fair enough. 
I began this as a response to Milos' initial questions, not to put down the Russian people.
What I nave asserted is in the public record, primarily from military writers such as John Keegan and Ian Senior.

Understood. I was just pointing out, you have a long road ahead if you want to un-brainwash the youth of Russia.

Quote from: Walter Josh on December 01, 2015, 11:57:08 AM
*Sir John Keegan may have been many things but liar is not one of them.

You wrote that your source is Sir John Keegan and post his words: "... The Russians Military remained inept and ineffectual till  1917..." I presented proofs, that this is lie (Galicia offensive, Brusilov offensive). So, what's up? Where did I went wrong? it is not my fault that in US history of Russia mostly composed of several propaganda cliches, that has little to do with reality.

Kalash,
You are correct about both Galicia and Brusilov; they did tie down Austria for some 20 months.
Be at peace.

If Lincoln was a Diplomat, the entire Civil War could have been avoided. Europe ended slavery without wars.

For one thing, consider the Irish had just experienced a tragic, and largely unnecessary, famine. Those poor folk would have gladly worked for wages CHEAPER than actual Slaves. All Lincoln had to do was convince Southern Slave Owners of that, and open the Doors.

An owner needs to buy Slaves, feed them, maintain them. This is expensive.

Free People, desperate, cost much less.

But Lincoln was never really interested in solving any disagreements. He sought absolute power. And he got it.

Quote from: SalemCat on December 23, 2015, 07:08:50 PM
If Lincoln was a Diplomat, the entire Civil War could have been avoided. Europe ended slavery without wars.

For one thing, consider the Irish had just experienced a tragic, and largely unnecessary, famine. Those poor folk would have gladly worked for wages CHEAPER than actual Slaves. All Lincoln had to do was convince Southern Slave Owners of that, and open the Doors.

An owner needs to buy Slaves, feed them, maintain them. This is expensive.

Free People, desperate, cost much less.

But Lincoln was never really interested in solving any disagreements. He sought absolute power. And he got it.

Bingo!

If it was our right, as free British subjects, to overthrown the government of the Crown when it no longer met our requirements to govern ourselves, it was the right of free, independent, and sovereign states, to throw off the bonds of government when that government no longer met it's needs. That is the premise of a republic and compact freely entered into.

Remember, the Treaty of Trent ( ? ) was not with the union ( United States of America ) , nor with the people collectively in America, but with 13 free, independent, and sovereign states in America, united.

Quote from: Shooterman on December 27, 2015, 10:11:15 AM
Remember, the Treaty of Trent ( ? ) was not with the union ( United States of America ) , nor with the people collectively in America, but with 13 free, independent, and sovereign states in America, united.

Exactly so. 

Reconstruction always confused me.  The south said, "We're leaving."  The north said, "No you're not."  It was settled by force of arms.  That means the north won, the south wasn't allowed to leave, so why did they need to be reconstructed back into the union at the point of the 14th amendment?  They never left the union.  If they did leave the union and the north attacked them with arms, then it was a war of conquest, not a war to preserve the union. 

People say that the war answered the discussion about whether states are allowed to secede or not.  That means might makes right, which flies in the face of the Republican form of government.  The US government is a federation of independent states.  The authority for it comes from the states.

Quote from: Justaguy on December 27, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
Exactly so. 

Reconstruction always confused me.  The south said, "We're leaving."  The north said, "No you're not."  It was settled by force of arms.  That means the north won, the south wasn't allowed to leave, so why did they need to be reconstructed back into the union at the point of the 14th amendment?  They never left the union.  If they did leave the union and the north attacked them with arms, then it was a war of conquest, not a war to preserve the union. 

People say that the war answered the discussion about whether states are allowed to secede or not.  That means might makes right, which flies in the face of the Republican form of government.  The US government is a federation of independent states.  The authority for it comes from the states.

Well, I am sure you are aware there has been almost 160 years of the 'WINNERS' writing the history. We all know how that works.

Lincoln said that the Union was created by the Continental Congress when the first one was formed, and in turn created the states. Many after him, in turn believed the same.

Either the Founders were full of crap and had no idea how it was created, or Lincoln was the worst liar in presidential history, until this second sumbich from Illinois came down the pike.

Quote from: Shooterman on December 27, 2015, 04:01:03 PM
Well, I am sure you are aware there has been almost 160 years of the 'WINNERS' writing the history. We all know how that works.

Lincoln said that the Union was created by the Continental Congress when the first one was formed, and in turn created the states. Many after him, in turn believed the same.

Either the Founders were full of crap and had no idea how it was created, or Lincoln was the worst liar in presidential history, until this second sumbich from Illinois came down the pike.

The colonies were chartered by England.  Those same colonies were granted independence by England.  The Continental Congress was made of delegates from those self same colonies.  How could Lincoln imagine that the states DIDN'T exist before the union?  He was either a liar or a fool. 

Yeah, Illinois is 0 for 2.  I'd say that's about enough outta them.

I would've guessed it was the alliance where in Czar Nicholas sold the territory of what we know as Alaska to the United States..!!

Quote from: Shooterman on December 27, 2015, 04:01:03 PM
Well, I am sure you are aware there has been almost 160 years of the 'WINNERS' writing the history. We all know how that works.

Lincoln said that the Union was created by the Continental Congress when the first one was formed, and in turn created the states. Many after him, in turn believed the same.

Either the Founders were full of crap and had no idea how it was created, or Lincoln was the worst liar in presidential history, until this second sumbich from Illinois came down the pike.

It continually astounds me how many Conservatives (even Mark Levin) continue to praise Lincoln.