The 1935 plan to invade Canada

Started by quiller, August 18, 2014, 05:24:20 AM

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quiller

Quote from: Solar on August 20, 2014, 09:05:27 AM
Nope, it's like an impostor posing an an officer of the law, all the tickets written are immediately null and void, despite the fact it was a real ticket book.

And not unlike the impostor in the WH, once removed, all EO's and firings of our Military should be immediately reversed.

I do not believe Obama will be brought to justice and decisions nullified due to illegitimacy of his presidency (however incompetent, insulting or treasonous). Congress did so much of his dirty work WILLINGLY and to negate that would reflect upon them. It's a powerful reason to not do much of anything except start a subcommittee hearing or three and let the media grow weary as (yet) another scandal erupts to draw them elsewhere.

The GOP won't go through with it. They haven't got the guts to, without polls going so sorely against Obama that Congress would be persuaded into believing they could actually get the vote to REMOVE and NULLIFY pass. Those polls won't get published. The Associated Press will rephrase them so thoroughly that every small town newspaper in America will wind up reporting NOTHING of substance on the subject. To the public, Obama is merely the target of "the usual partisan attacks." AP will keep them that way.

The GOP would settle for a Senate majority and a pretense of redressing Obama's wrongs, but once it begins they'll suddenly discover "strong poll support for clemency," and a hostile media willing to do whatever it takes to hold the new Senate to that clemency.

TboneAgain

Quote from: SVPete on August 19, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
I believe this sort of contingency war plans covering even highly unlikely scenarios had roots pre-dating WW1. Definitely by the pre-WW1 German General Staff (and maybe even dating to the Franco-Prussian War). When it began in the US War and Navy Departments, I don't know.

My comment, "I find it hard to believe that even some German media outfit, even if it were staffed entirely by young people, could be so grossly ignorant of history as to think War Plan Red was a serious plan to invade Canada," referred to the source you linked in your OP. The ".de" in the url means that it is a German outfit. My point was that even if this geographically distant German media outfit were staffed by young people with a poor education in regard to US history, I just cannot conceive of them being so ignorant and uninformed that they would believe that War Plan Red was anything more than a contingency plan covering an extremely unlikely scenario. I think the people at that German media outfit was aiming this ludicrous anti-US propaganda at credulous conspiracy-theorist haters of the US, particularly in Canada.

Just to show how ludicrous it is, consider what was dominating US government attention from 1929 into at least the mid-1930s (when Hitler rose to power and Japan invaded China) - the Great Depression. Further along that tack, throughout the 1920s, into the late 1930s, the Feds had been demobilizing the Army and, under treaty provisions, scrapping many of the Navy's most powerful ships (many of which were obsolete, obsolescent or marginal) and cancelling two or more whole classes of battleships and battle cruisers (I'm painting in very broad strokes, but there's no significant devils in the details, most imps). Between the Great Depression and the gutting of the military it just is not credible to claim that the US had serious plans to invade Canada (along side whose men our soldiers had fought in WW1!).

Well, no, it doesn't mean that at all. It means only that whoever set up the site selected a domain name with that suffix. I could set up my own domain with a .de suffix in less time than it takes me to type this post.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. -- Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; IT IS FORCE. -- George Washington

quiller

Quote from: TboneAgain on August 21, 2014, 12:24:54 AM
Well, no, it doesn't mean that at all. It means only that whoever set up the site selected a domain name with that suffix. I could set up my own domain with a .de suffix in less time than it takes me to type this post.
He could also have purchased a lapsed site-name which was reacquired and put up for sale. (Happened to me, once. Painful yet possible....) Brokers routinely acquire large numbers of these on spec and then resell at a sometimes exorbitant profit.