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Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« on: November 22, 2016, 03:52:06 AM »
Inspired by a recent post about Jews.



Jehuda Alkalaj (photo above), a Sephardic rabbi and writer, whose ideas are considered to be the forerunners of Zionism, was born in the city of Sarajevo (Bosnia) in 1798, and moved into the town of Zemun (Austria back then, modern day Serbia) in 1825. There, he built a Sephardic synagogue, and conceived the idea of Jewish return to the Holy Land. He founded a society for returning to the Holy Land in 1840, and its members were gathering in the capital of Serbia, Belgrade, and in the Serbian town of Šabac. Theodor Herzl continued Jehuda's work in Budapest (Austria-Hungary), and is regarded as the founder of Zionism.



Serbian Prince Miloš Obrenović (1780-1860, pictured above) had a close Jewish friend David. Turkish pasha called Miloš once to visit him in the Belgrade fortress, but Miloš's friend David advised him not to come, which proved to be a good decision, because it was revealed later that the pasha wanted to assassinate him. Since then, Miloš gave David a nickname Davičo from the grace for saving his life, which David's descendants adopted as their family name. Prince Miloš was a great protector of Jews, granting Jewish traders special rights and privileges.



The roots of Serbian-Jewish friendship date from the rule of Prince Miloš Obrenović (1815-39, 1858-60) and the Second Serbian Uprising (1815, pictured above, with Prince Miloš waving his flag). Jews from Austria provided strong support to the Serbian rebels against the Ottoman Turks. It is believed that the Second Serbian Uprising gave an inspiration to the Austrian Jews that if Serbs were capable of regaining their Fatherland from the Ottoman Turks, then the Jews could achieve the same.



Jewish neighborhood in Belgrade, Jalija (photo above), after the Austro-Hungarian shelling in 1914. Serbs and Jews shared the same shelter and food and fought the same enemy together during the World War One.



Serbs and Jews in Austro-Hungarian captivity (photo above). They fought together, died together, and won the war together.



Danilo Albahari (photo above), a forwarder. Being very old and ill, the Austro-Hungarians offered him to present himself as a Bulgarian Jew, in order to avoid the captivity. He then straightened up from his chair with difficulties, and replied to them with pride: "I am a Serbian Jew!" Jewish youth gathered in the old synagogue, from where they joined the Serbian army first rows, with motto: "The face of Belgrade is bright!" Jewish Major Avram Berah took the command over a regiment, which fought heroically, and he was awarded with highest decorations.



The chief of the ministry of finance of the Kingdom of Serbia was a Jew, Avram Lević (photo above). Retreating from the invading German, Austro-Hungarian, and Bulgarian troops, alongside with the gold, paper money, and important documents, he secured the evacuation of the precious Serbian Orthodox Christian treasure, of which the most important was the oldest preserved book written in Serbian Cyrillic script, The Gospel of Prince Miroslav from 12th century. It was shipped from Albanian coast to France. After the ships sailed, Austria-Hungary sent a bomber to sink them. It happened that the pilot was an Austro-Hungarian Serb, and miraculously no ships were hit.



Dr David Albala was a Serbian Captain during the war, an another highly decorated officer. He was working as a medical doctor on a ship, which was a very lucrative job back then. At the beginning of the First Balkan War (1912-13), he left his job in order to join the Serbian army, where he participated in both Balkan Wars and First World War as a military doctor. In 1917, Serbian government sent him to the United States in a diplomatic mission, when he managed to gather a million dollars of war loans. He was working on promoting the Serbian war goals among the American Jewry. His wife, Paulina Lebl Albala, who was the chief of the organization of university graduated women in Belgrade, also helped him, alongside with the religious leader of Serbian Jews, rabbi Isak Alkalaj, who also travelled to the United States to gather help.



Kingdom of Serbia was the first country after United Kingdom to officially support the creation of Jewish state. Serbian ambassador in Washington sent a letter (pictured above) to Captain Albala, in which he stated: "I wish you to express to your Jewish brothers the sympathy of our Government and of our people for the just endeavor of resuscitating their beloved country in Palestine which will enable them to take their place in the future Society of Nations according to their numerous capacities and to their unquestioned right. We are sure that this will not only be to their own interest, but at the same time to that of the whole of humanity. You know, dear Captain Albala, that there is no other nation in the world sympathizing with this plan more than Serbia. How should we not participate in your clamors and sorrows lasting ages and generations, especially when our countrymen of your origin and religion have fought for their Serbian fatherland as well as the best of our soldiers? It will be a sad thing for us to see any of our Jewish fellow-citizens leaving us to return to their promised land, but we shall console ourselves in the hope that they will stand as brothers and leave with us a good part of their hearts and that they will be the strongest tie between free Israel and Serbia." The Serbian letter marked the first time any government had referred to the yet-to-be-born Jewish state as “Israel,” presaging the name that would be adopted by the nascent republic three decades later.



Serbian poet of Jewish origin, Stanislav Vinaver (photo above), a Lieutenant in Serbian army during the war, lead the last company of Yugoslav volunteers from Russia. Their train was passing over recently defeated Bulgaria. During a two-hour stop in Sofia, capital of Bulgaria, the soldiers were strictly forbidden to leave their wagons. But, using Bulgarian lack of vigilance, he ordered his company to leave the train, and then he lead them to the city, marching with military step towards the church of Holy Sunday, where the sacred relics of Medieval Serbian King Milutin (1282-1321) were placed, to pay them omage. Bulgaria then asked for their punishment for breaking the peace treaty provisions, but was rejected.



Serbian-Jewish glee club founded in Belgrade in 1879, called "Baruh Brothers Choir" since 1952, is the oldest Jewish choir in Europe (photo above). They perform songs in Hebrew, Yiddish, and Ladino languages.

[Taken from (not in English, sorry): http://www.blic.rs/riznica/istorije/10-cinjenica-o-jevrejsko-srpskom-prijateljstvu/qzxzwlx.]



When I look at this, what a heroic times we had once, contrary to the modern pussy time.


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Re: Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2016, 07:42:25 AM »
Good job, thanks for posting Milos.
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Re: Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 03:51:33 AM »
Good job, thanks for posting Milos.

Previously, I did some injustice when I generalized things about Sephardic and Ashkenazic Jews, so I needed to correct myself a bit. I know I've been messing around here too much, and maybe you have allowed me too much freedom, which I appreciate. So, I am always in a worry, when I post something, would it be appropriate. And since the Internet is a global phenomenon, it is difficult sometimes to adjust to a local site. But it is even more difficult on social networks, like Facebook, when I have both conservative and progressive friends, and even some national-socialists, and I follow some Jewish pages, and there are people of different nationalities, and I want not to offend anyone, but still to keep my genuine attitude, ha ha, it's a mess.

I really don't know where that public fixation on Jews comes from, I mean why Jews, why not someone else? It is difficult to explain. Maybe because Jews were blamed for crucifying Jesus, but some also blamed Romans for the same. These are all too simplified generalizations. At least, Christians should know who the greatest enemy of the humanity is, and he is not human. As you can see, we had very patriotic, and even nationalistic Jews, back then. But, some others had different experience, for example, 90% of the leaders of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia were Jewish. So, to some people like Hitler for example, Jews were equal to communism. But there are also very capitalistic Jews, and so they are being blamed for being rich.

Today, I think most people associate Jews with George Soros and his "open society" bullshit. The problem is many Jews fall for his philosophy and support him.
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Re: Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2016, 07:00:42 AM »
Previously, I did some injustice when I generalized things about Sephardic and Ashkenazic Jews, so I needed to correct myself a bit. I know I've been messing around here too much, and maybe you have allowed me too much freedom, which I appreciate. So, I am always in a worry, when I post something, would it be appropriate. And since the Internet is a global phenomenon, it is difficult sometimes to adjust to a local site. But it is even more difficult on social networks, like Facebook, when I have both conservative and progressive friends, and even some national-socialists, and I follow some Jewish pages, and there are people of different nationalities, and I want not to offend anyone, but still to keep my genuine attitude, ha ha, it's a mess.

I really don't know where that public fixation on Jews comes from, I mean why Jews, why not someone else? It is difficult to explain. Maybe because Jews were blamed for crucifying Jesus, but some also blamed Romans for the same. These are all too simplified generalizations. At least, Christians should know who the greatest enemy of the humanity is, and he is not human. As you can see, we had very patriotic, and even nationalistic Jews, back then. But, some others had different experience, for example, 90% of the leaders of the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia were Jewish. So, to some people like Hitler for example, Jews were equal to communism. But there are also very capitalistic Jews, and so they are being blamed for being rich.

Today, I think most people associate Jews with George Soros and his "open society" bullshit. The problem is many Jews fall for his philosophy and support him.
That's the thing about being on a Conservative site, all facts are welcome, but that doesn't mean someone is allowed to ignore the truth on the other side of the story.
Conservatives believe in truth, no matter how much it hurts, we also believe the only path for Liberty is to embrace the failures that brought us to where we are, be it book burning, slavery or murder, whitewashing the past only makes it possible for it to repeat itself much sooner.

America is a perfect example of ignoring our past and allowing leftists control over teaching our children and their version of what they see as our future.
Their version is the exact opposite of what this nation was founded on, Liberty and freedom for all, but their ideal is govt dolling out freedoms for the chosen and the rest accept it and tow the line.
Problem is, there is now an entire generation of voting age that has no issue with throwing away these freedoms because they've been taught that another's Liberties oppresses minorities, when nothing could be further from the truth.

Point is, we only know what we've been taught and what we live, and without historical perspective we can never understand the plight of the Jew.
Whether they are responsible for their global hatred because they as a group allowed the oppression of other societies and races, or they themselves have been unfairly treated throughout history?

Granted, persecution in any form is wrong, but what is the actual crime they're being persecuted for? Is it debts of the father, is it that they've become the scapegoat for the weak to focus their circumstances they've created and ignore their own failures?
I met a couple of skinheads, one mentioned how they despise Jews, but when queried couldn't come up with one real world example for their hatred.
I suspect his prejudice is generationally taught, while the other is out of pure ignorance and a need to belong to a group, so as to create an identity for himself.

Whatever it is, there are a few players in the world that keep the hate alive, such as you mentioned one, Soros, he alone, I believe is responsible for another generations validation for hate.
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Re: Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2016, 06:18:57 PM »
Hello zemljace :)

That's a great post, even I didn't know some of that stuff and I pride my self in knowing a lot about our history. Thanks Hvala.
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Re: Some facts about Jewish-Serbian friendship
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2016, 04:50:16 AM »
Hello zemljace :)

That's a great post, even I didn't know some of that stuff and I pride my self in knowing a lot about our history. Thanks Hvala.

Hi, fellow countryman, it's nice to see you here. I took this stuff from a short newspapers article, and it is certain that much more can be told on this matter. I have started this topic because of a question why have Jews been persecuted in some countries, while in some others they were greatly accepted, and I can't figure out what could have made that difference. For example, why were Jews persecuted in Russia, but on the other side they were highly accepted in Serbia, when Russians and Serbians are generally considered the closest Orthodox Christian and Slavic brothers. Are Russians and Serbians very different, or actually Russian and Serbian Jews are very different? Why did Russians considered Jews a national threat, while on the other side we had Jews who were highly patriotic and even nationalistic? This is just one example, and I can't understand that. Some claim Serbs are actually descendants of the Israelite tribes of Benjamin and Dan, and I would like to start a discussion on that claim, but I have no proofs whatsoever. BTW, please, use only English in this forum, so that the admins could understand you. :wink: Even the Google Translate won't translate "zemljace" from Serbian to English. (But it will translate from Croatian though, which is strange.)
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