Egypt is the exception, they are at their natural limits (although the Sinai could be agued over.   Likewise Saudi Arabia – beyond the fact that their borders with Oman and Yemen have always been fuzzy.

Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Lebanon are gone.   Iran and Turkey are in for a territorial haircut.   The 'successor states' will be small, disorganized and chaotic.   Chaos is the normal state affairs in that region.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/10/25/the-imaginary-borders-of-the-middle-east/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/10/23/358115298/israels-defense-minister-mideast-borders-absolutely-will-change

Turkey could lose its southeastern portion (it's all Kurdish).   Iran could lose its northeastern corner (it's all Kurdish, too) and maybe its oil fields in its southwest corner (all Shi'ite Arabs) too.

As their neighbors break up and become more powerless, whither Israel?   Unspoken in all this is a glorious opportunity for Israel to expand to natural and defensible borders.   Viz:  The Litani River in the north and the Jordan in the east.   At the same time Israel could use the chaos to expel Arabs from the "West Bank,"  Gaza, and southern Lebanon.

Europe is too weak and preoccupied with Putin to do anything.   The US has 'turtled up' into neo-isolationism, and will stay that way until at least 2017.

Sykes and Picot are long dead.   Time to bury them.

Quote from: Taxcutter on October 26, 2014, 11:18:42 AM
Egypt is the exception, they are at their natural limits (although the Sinai could be agued over.   Likewise Saudi Arabia – beyond the fact that their borders with Oman and Yemen have always been fuzzy.

Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Lebanon are gone.   Iran and Turkey are in for a territorial haircut.   The 'successor states' will be small, disorganized and chaotic.   Chaos is the normal state affairs in that region.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/10/25/the-imaginary-borders-of-the-middle-east/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/10/23/358115298/israels-defense-minister-mideast-borders-absolutely-will-change

Turkey could lose its southeastern portion (it's all Kurdish).   Iran could lose its northeastern corner (it's all Kurdish, too) and maybe its oil fields in its southwest corner (all Shi'ite Arabs) too.

As their neighbors break up and become more powerless, whither Israel?   Unspoken in all this is a glorious opportunity for Israel to expand to natural and defensible borders.   Viz:  The Litani River in the north and the Jordan in the east.   At the same time Israel could use the chaos to expel Arabs from the "West Bank,"  Gaza, and southern Lebanon.

Europe is too weak and preoccupied with Putin to do anything.   The US has 'turtled up' into neo-isolationism, and will stay that way until at least 2017.

Sykes and Picot are long dead.   Time to bury them.

You are writing as if Israel has any intention or interest in expanding it's borders, remember that Israel gave back 94%of it's conquered territories after all the neighboring islamoshit states surprised attack Israel and tried to commit genocide against the Jewish people. Israel is not like petro-socialist states, they do not depend on oil to keep their regime in power.

But Israel aside, your theory is contradictory with the Kurds being wholly dependent on EU and the USA to support them in gaining statehood. China and Russia supports Iran, Turkey is a strong nationalistic country and will not be pushed around by a pesky minority (it's not like they are European or American). If the EU and US is how you say not willing to intervene then there is no way the Kurds can muster enough strength/leverage to gain statehood.

Quote from: Taxcutter on October 26, 2014, 11:18:42 AM
Egypt is the exception, they are at their natural limits (although the Sinai could be agued over.   Likewise Saudi Arabia – beyond the fact that their borders with Oman and Yemen have always been fuzzy.

Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Lebanon are gone.   Iran and Turkey are in for a territorial haircut.   The 'successor states' will be small, disorganized and chaotic.   Chaos is the normal state affairs in that region.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/blog/2014/10/25/the-imaginary-borders-of-the-middle-east/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/parallels/2014/10/23/358115298/israels-defense-minister-mideast-borders-absolutely-will-change

Turkey could lose its southeastern portion (it's all Kurdish).   Iran could lose its northeastern corner (it's all Kurdish, too) and maybe its oil fields in its southwest corner (all Shi'ite Arabs) too.

As their neighbors break up and become more powerless, whither Israel?   Unspoken in all this is a glorious opportunity for Israel to expand to natural and defensible borders.   Viz:  The Litani River in the north and the Jordan in the east.   At the same time Israel could use the chaos to expel Arabs from the "West Bank,"  Gaza, and southern Lebanon.

Europe is too weak and preoccupied with Putin to do anything.   The US has 'turtled up' into neo-isolationism, and will stay that way until at least 2017.

Sykes and Picot are long dead.   Time to bury them.

Sadly, american soldiers will die for  countries that are dead.

American soldiers will die to further the aims of Iran. Nuff said.

So why doesn't Hussein Obama do what he really wants to do...bug out?

It's very likely also that Iran will take over most or all of Iraq. Iraq has been extremely weakened, has massive corruption and the civil war between Sunni and Shi'a will only intensify. Iran, being 90% Shi'a will not stand by and watch "their people" be exterminate. And who's going to stop them when they decide to invade? Barack Osama? Not to mention that they'll soon have nukes so even if the US does finally get a President with some courage that could well be the deciding factor on the outcome of an Iranian invasion.

Israel (The Tiny Jewish State ) is the "Bad Actor" in the Middle East in the eyes of the Far Left & Left in America.

Why should we give a damn what the Left and Far Left think?

Quote from: Taxcutter on November 24, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
Why should we give a damn what the Left and Far Left think?

Because having almost half of our Liberal Left advocating Sharia as a viable option & calling for Divestment & Sanctions against Israel (The Tiny Jewish State) instead of Iran should be somthing we notice and get concerned about ...