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My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« on: April 29, 2018, 02:47:07 PM »
A topic near and dear to my heart:

   Worldwide Respect For Trump Far More Meaningful than the Nobel Peace Prize
   By Judi McLeod
   April 28, 2018
   
   https://canadafreepress.com/article/worldwide-respect-for-trump-far-more-meaningful-than-the-nobel-peace-prize


Over the years, I posted messages critical of the history of Nobel Peace Prizes; the first message was back in 2003. I edited, updated, and posted that original critique several times. My critiques are still valid and worth repeating one more time.

When Wangari Maathai (1940 - 2011) won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2004 she was identified as a “Kenyan ecologist.”  She won the PP for her work in human Rights and reversing deforestation across Africa.

Human Rights is a catchall term that Socialists love to throw around. Every Third World human Right must be paid for with First World tax dollars according to the United Nations.

I  knew what a Kenyan was, but I was not sure what an ecologist did? I soon learned that stopping deforestation was another environmental con job on par with global warming.

Environmental wack jobs are one thing, but nobody moved Wangari over to the screwball column when she said the West created HIV in a lab.  I do nt know if that unproven charge was considered by the Nobel Awards Committee along with human Rights and the evils of deforestation.  I do know that if a real scientist made such a statement without proof he or she would be ostracized by fellow scientists.

Television tells us about another tragedy in Africa every other day; so I do nt know how much work Wangari did on human Rights since most Africans are worse off now than they were before the UN targeted them for salvation.  By the way, fellow Peace Prize recipient, former U.N. Secretary General Goofy Annan, is from Africa, too.  Thank your lucky stars that Goofy and Wangari saved Africa and not the US.

The admiration the media heaps upon Nobel Peace Prize winners because they espouse a global village point of view opens up a lot of questions regarding political propaganda.  The Nobel Peace Prize is only important to the mainstream media and the Socialist community. Were it not for the media reporting a political award as though it is news, I doubt if anybody other than the recipients and their families would hear about it, much less care about it.

NOTE: A fair guestimate of the number of people who ever heard of the Nobel PP is around 2 percent of the 6 billion adults in the world. The number of people who care drops to a minute fraction of 1 percent.

Calling it a Peace Prize is a misnomer to begin with because the PP is often awarded for salesmanship rather than achievement, or to put it more succinctly it is based on selling the absence of war rather than predicated on preventing governments from engaging in institutional murder.

The Nobel Peace Prize is not an award that impresses people who respect individual liberties and absolute national sovereignty.  Admittedly, I have been critical of the Nobel Peace Prize and some of its recipients.  In truth, I do not know enough about every one of them to say they all suck.  To be precise there have been a few good ones mixed in with the others.

George C. Marshall and Mother Teresa were two of the good Peace Prize winners; so it is really upsetting to see their names on a list that also includes characters like Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, Albert Schweitzer, Nasser Arafat, Goofy Annan, Nelson Mandela, Mikhail Gorbachev, Mohamed ElBaradei, Al Gore, and Barack Obama.

Remember that Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for his touchy-feely rhetoric. The things he did, namely getting the New START Treaty ratified, is more than the rhetoric of a demagogue. His betrayals justify his Nobel to the International community if not to Americans. Even if he is nothing more than a fool, the only option he leaves Americans is to beat off enemies with his Nobel when his International pals are strong enough to attack a weakened America. I am sure that prospect must have Moscow and Peking shaking in their boots. 

Gorbachev deserves special mention because of his former dictator status.  Have you ever seen an article, or heard a TV blurb, about Gorbachev that did not mention his 1990 Nobel Peace Prize?  “Gorby,” as he is affectionately referred to by his liberal admirers, founded Green Cross International an environmental outfit.  If that does not tell you where all the good little Communists landed after the Cold War ended  nothing ever will.  Communists would still be running an intact Soviet Union if Gorbachev had his druthers.

Interestingly, Nobel Peace Prizes now favor environmental hustlers. Gorbachev founded Green Cross International. Wangari Maathai founded the Green Belt Movement, and top global warming hustler Al Gore shared his 2007 prize with the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. A couple more environmental winners and they can rename the peace prize category the Nobel Prize for Environmental Bullshit? 

When Ronald Reagan led the fight that defeated the Soviet Union it was a bold stroke for peace, yet no Peace Prize was forthcoming.  Instead, Gorbachev, a Communist dictator got one.  Defeating Communism is not considered a contribution to peace according to the PP committee.  The most perverse Gorby joke of all is that he got his PP for getting booted out on his rear end by his own people.       

Ralph Bunche (1904 - 1971) got his PP in 1950 for his work on the United Nations Palestine Commission.  In light of what is happening over there these days his heirs should be asked to return the money. 

Another “winner” worth special mention is Philip John Noel-Baker (1889-1982), a British politician who helped draft the Covenant of the League of Nations (1919) and, also, the United Nations Charter (1945).  League of Nation global villagers were determined not to be denied success the second time around.  Still promoting the same old Wilsonian crapola they moved their desks over to the United Nations in 1945.  In short: Same jockey —— different horse.  Noel-Baker won the 1959 Nobel Peace Prize.

Since the end of WWI people with a connection to the League of Nations and its successor, the UN, have probably won more Nobel Peace Prizes than the New York Yankees won pennants.  Maybe that is the reason the world is far from peaceful! (It is no wonder Clinton is so hot for the United Nations. Winning a PP is his last shot at some kind of immortality that is not tainted by his presidency.)

There is no doubt that global government advocates have always had the inside track to Nobel Peace Prizes going all the way back to the early nineteen-hundreds; Socialism’s early years in the United States as well as awarding the first Nobel Peace Prize in 1901.  I doubt very much if anyone who believed in a world of sovereign nations ever had a chance of winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

Let me clear up one thing: The PP is clearly a political trophy.  No one denies it.  The Nobel Peace Prize, awarded by the NORWEGIAN parliament, has always been recognized as a political award:


   Why Norway?
   
   http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/about_peaceprize/why-norway/

The commonly held view is that Alfred Nobel feared that the highly political nature of the Peace Prize would make it a tool in power politics and thereby reduce its significance as an instrument for peace; so he willed his PP to the Norwegian parliament.  (You can look it up for more details if you are interested.)  Poor Al —— look at what the Socialists/Communists did to his PP.

Peace Prize winners should never be held in the same high esteem as those who get theirs for actually doing something useful in the exact sciences.  I have the utmost respect for the men and women who win a Nobel Prize for physics, chemistry, physiology, or medicine

I refuse to give literature and economics the same respect the exact sciences deserve.  Literature is especially troubling.  Toni Morrison, black American woman and Nobel Prize Winner for literature (1993) was the first person to see through Bill Clinton’s white epidermis.  “Clinton is the first black American president” was a Morrison epiphany.  (Obama ran under false pretenses if Morrison is correct about Clinton.) The troubling thing about Nobel prizes for literature is that people who think like Morrison write books.

If the prize for literature is a political joke, the prize for economics is five acts of vaudeville.

The first Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded in 1969.  In other words it was invented.  Alfred Nobel never heard of it.  The joke is that the award for the Nobel Prize in Economics is paid by the Sveriges Riksbank.


   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences

The Sveriges Riksbank pays the Nobel Foundation for the use of the name. The reason is obvious. Nobel Prize for Economics sounds better than Sveriges Riksbank Prize for Economics. It is like Betty Crocker paying a fee to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences so they can call a baking award an Oscar. A prize awarded by a European bank is more obscene than the propaganda prizes for “peace” and literature.

It came as no surprise to see that the 1981 winner in economics was James Tobin of Tobin Tax fame.  Mr. Tobin claims he is for free markets at the same time he is a big supporter of globalization —— globalization being code talk for U.N. taxing authority, and central control in the U.N.’s hands.  Am I the only one that sees a big contradiction there?

In any event the prize in economics is as political, and as meaningless to most Americans, as is the Nobel Peace Prize and Nobel Prize for Literature. 

Parenthetically, economists remind me of priests.  The only significant difference between the two is that religious missionaries preach to the masses while economists preach to those who control the masses. 

Not to be outdone by men of the cloth, economists convinced First World governments that economists are the only ones who know enough about money to talk about it in the halls of power.  I am probably being unfair on this point.  One cannot seriously expect congressional committees to seek testimony from people working for a minimum wage. The justification for such testimony would be hampered by an overabundance of available witnesses.


Agent 006 & 7/8ths reported that the Nobel Peace Prize committee want it back.


   One Last Treasonous Act=> Obama Approves Uranium Shipment to Iran – Enough to Build 10 Nuclear Weapons
   Jim Hoft
   Jan 9th, 2017 12:00 pm
   
   http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/one-last-treasonous-act-obama-approves-uranium-shipment-iran-enough-build-10-nuclear-weapons/


Jeez, I hope presidents handing out medals will not compete with handing out pardons in the final days of a presidency! Biden has never been right about anything in his entire career, and he has been at it a lot longer than the Chicago sewer rat. That makes this one more laughable than the ones Dumbo got: 

   Obama surprises Biden with Presidential Medal of Freedom
   By Associated Press
   January 12, 2017 | 4:19pm
   
   http://nypost.com/2017/01/12/obama-awards-biden-the-presidential-medal-of-freedom/

I would not take away the sewer rat’s  Nobel Peace Prize. I would give him another one. His kind deserve them: 

   The New York Times noted the irony that the longest-serving wartime president was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize only nine months into his first term in office. Yet the article characterized Obama as a reluctant warrior laboring under a heavy burden inherited from his predecessor. The article also focused on Obama’s efforts to transform the nature of how the United States wages war, relying more on drone strikes and targeted special forces operations than traditional intervention with ground forces. But in doing so, the Times told only half of the story.

   The Norwegian Nobel Committee said it awarded the 2009 Peace Prize to President Obama because “(h)is diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority.”

         Revoke Obama's Nobel Peace Prize
         Posted By Nat Hentoff and Nick Hentoff On 05/19/2016 @ 7:22 pm
         
         http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/revoke-obamas-nobel-peace-prize/

Finally, I was really pulling for John Kerry. Not only would a Peace Prize hold him up as a sick joke, he would have brought the Nobel Peace Prize to a new low among the people who know what it is.
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Re: My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 07:14:05 AM »
UPDATE
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   Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize, says South Korean President Moon for helping to broker an end to hostilities with Kim Jong-un and a 'complete denuclearization'
   By Reuters
   Published: 06:22 EDT, 30 April 2018 | Updated: 09:40 EDT, 30 April 2018
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5673717/Trump-win-Nobel-Peace-Prize-says-South-Korean-president-Moon-Jae-in.html

   

   
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When Ronald Reagan led the fight that defeated the Soviet Union it was a bold stroke for peace, yet no Peace Prize was forthcoming.

If President Trump actually get the prize he should tell the Nobel Committee “I accept. Send the check and forget the rest.”
The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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Re: My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2018, 07:21:12 AM »
UPDATE
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   Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize, says South Korean President Moon for helping to broker an end to hostilities with Kim Jong-un and a 'complete denuclearization'
   By Reuters
   Published: 06:22 EDT, 30 April 2018 | Updated: 09:40 EDT, 30 April 2018
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5673717/Trump-win-Nobel-Peace-Prize-says-South-Korean-president-Moon-Jae-in.html

   

   
If President Trump actually get the prize he should tell the Nobel Committee “I accept. Send the check and forget the rest.”
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Re: My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2018, 10:58:21 AM »
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If President Trump actually gets the prize he should tell the Nobel Committee “I accept. Send the check and forget the rest.”

President Trump is in trouble when Nutso is pulling for him:


Even Pelosi Admits Trump Could Qualify for Nobel Peace Prize: ‘Let’s See How It Goes’
TRE GOINS-PHILLIPS
APR 30, 2018 | 12:59 PM


https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/04/1090042-nancy-pelosi-trump-nobel-peace-prize/
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Re: My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2018, 11:06:42 AM »
President Trump is in trouble when Nutso is pulling for him:


Even Pelosi Admits Trump Could Qualify for Nobel Peace Prize: ‘Let’s See How It Goes’
TRE GOINS-PHILLIPS
APR 30, 2018 | 12:59 PM


https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/04/1090042-nancy-pelosi-trump-nobel-peace-prize/


For me the Nobel is no longer what it was. 
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Re: My Gal Judi Targets The Nobel Peace Prize
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 01:43:43 PM »
Do it again and I'll start deleting them! Keep it up after that, and you're gone.

How very Liberal of you.
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 01:48:09 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 02:02:40 PM »
How's that?

That's what Liberals do. Punish people for not writing things a certain way.

He went to far, but you jumped the gun on him. If I joined a forum, and somebody attacked me, I would bite back at you as well.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2018, 02:13:20 PM »
That's what Liberals do. Punish people for not writing things a certain way.

He went to far, but you jumped the gun on him. If I joined a forum, and somebody attacked me, I would bite back at you as well.
There's a lot you don't know, like the fact that I explained it in a PM, that I would help him if he needed it, but you only saw what was posted.
I generally don't discuss what exchanges take place in a PM, for the simple reason, it's a Private Message.
I run this forum in a very fair manner, everyone gets treated the same, everyone gets the same breaks, but you never tell the owner to fuck off, unless you want to be booted.

So tell me again, how I jumped the gun?
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2018, 03:00:49 PM »
There's a lot you don't know, like the fact that I explained it in a PM, that I would help him if he needed it, but you only saw what was posted.
I generally don't discuss what exchanges take place in a PM, for the simple reason, it's a Private Message.
I run this forum in a very fair manner, everyone gets treated the same, everyone gets the same breaks, but you never tell the owner to fuck off, unless you want to be booted.

You are right. I don't know what is done in private. To be honest, I though you were just a moderator. But, I've been there/done that. Past experiences makes me react a certain way to current situations. I'm trying to give people benefit of the doubt, especially since a person could have been an asset to a forum, and a movement.

So tell me again, how I jumped the gun?

Now. Now. No need to be like that.
First Amendment isn't just Freedom Of Speech, it's Freedom Of Conscience.

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2018, 03:24:05 PM »
You are right. I don't know what is done in private. To be honest, I though you were just a moderator. But, I've been there/done that. Past experiences makes me react a certain way to current situations. I'm trying to give people benefit of the doubt, especially since a person could have been an asset to a forum, and a movement.

Now. Now. No need to be like that.
Yeah, it's my money invested here, no one else, and I've been at this for many years and recognize bad blood right off the bat.
One way to spot it, is people coming in and posting crap they've been holding on to for quite some time, posting it all over the web and not "Feeling" they're getting the recognition they deserve, and never once considering that maybe it isn't as good as they think it is, then get frustrated when asked to clean up their mess they've worked so hard on.
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