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Chicago, America's Cesspool, got me thinking...

Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting each Presidential Candidate as if he, she, or IT, were the actual President ?

So if 50 or more "Bernie Supporters" (not one of whom sported even a single Sanders sign), rushed the Stage to kill Trump, what next ?

Overwhelmed, would the SS fire ?

My Thoughts: NO.

The Secret Service is not just PC, it is impotent. They would rather be accused of incompetence than "Racism".

Has any Agent ever fired their weapon at a would-be assassin since Lincoln met Wilkes ? I think not !!

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2016, 11:31:54 PM »
Chicago, America's Cesspool, got me thinking...

Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting each Presidential Candidate as if he, she, or IT, were the actual President ?

So if 50 or more "Bernie Supporters" (not one of whom sported even a single Sanders sign), rushed the Stage to kill Trump, what next ?

Overwhelmed, would the SS fire ?

My Thoughts: NO.

The Secret Service is not just PC, it is impotent. They would rather be accused of incompetence than "Racism".

Has any Agent ever fired their weapon at a would-be assassin since Lincoln met Wilkes ? I think not !!

You certainly sound like you want civilians shot by our government agents.

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2016, 06:11:22 AM »
Chicago, America's Cesspool, got me thinking...

Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting each Presidential Candidate as if he, she, or IT, were the actual President ?

So if 50 or more "Bernie Supporters" (not one of whom sported even a single Sanders sign), rushed the Stage to kill Trump, what next ?

Overwhelmed, would the SS fire ?

My Thoughts: NO.

The Secret Service is not just PC, it is impotent. They would rather be accused of incompetence than "Racism".

Has any Agent ever fired their weapon at a would-be assassin since Lincoln met Wilkes ? I think not !!

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As a former Wash DC Lawman and Private Bodyguard, the last thing you do in an attack such as you saw is start firing a weapon. The strategy employed by ANY professional bodyguard is not stand there and fight it out but to get your Principal the hell out of there as fast as you can through a predesignated route while forming a tighter defensive pattern. A moving target is harder to hit....simple.

You saw evidence of that with Trump the other day at the rally, you had his SS men surround him and were ready to get him off stage when he said "no'.

Shooting the guy would have likely resulted in innocent bystanders shot or trampled in a stampede. I am aware of NUMEROUS incidents over the years in which attacks of this type occurred  with various Presidents and foreign dignitaries. It wasn't necessary to shoot anyone as they were thwarted by other less lethal means. That bespeaks of the professionalism of the SS and often the local PD's that augment the security detail.

Look at the Hinckley shooting of Reagan. The guy was overwhelmed in seconds, still with gun in hand, The President was shoved into a limo and out of the danger zone immediately, thwarting any planned attack....which it was not.... just a lone nut. THESE ARE THE HARDEST TO GUARD AGAINST in our free society.  The you had "uncle" Gerry Ford, shot at twice by nutty females, squeeky Frome and Sarah Jane Moore, SS hustled him out of there the shooters were overwhelmed without lethal weapons used.

Believe me, if any force of ORGANIZED assailants tries to rush the stage with weapons ala Anwar Sadats assassination in Egypt decades ago, they will not make it past the SS, for a lot of reasons I won't divulge tactics or weaponry used but I know such a group wouldn't have a chance.
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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2016, 07:17:29 AM »
Chicago, America's Cesspool, got me thinking...

Isn't the Secret Service supposed to be protecting each Presidential Candidate as if he, she, or IT, were the actual President ?

So if 50 or more "Bernie Supporters" (not one of whom sported even a single Sanders sign), rushed the Stage to kill Trump, what next ?

Overwhelmed, would the SS fire ?

My Thoughts: NO.

The Secret Service is not just PC, it is impotent. They would rather be accused of incompetence than "Racism".

Has any Agent ever fired their weapon at a would-be assassin since Lincoln met Wilkes ? I think not !!
In answer to your question, yes they have, shot people. And yes they would shoot libtards dead in the situation you describe above. 

They don't care who you are, their job is to protect and maintain the safety of that person.

Lots of people don't realize this, but in matters where the safety of the President is in question.

That is actually considered by our Government to be a matter of national security. And well as we all know, where a matter of national security is in question. The government has the authority to do what it must to ensure the safety and security and continuation of our Constitutional form of government here in the United States.

And that's the way it should be too.

http://www.secretservice.gov/about/history/events/
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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2016, 04:29:03 PM »
They don't care who you are, their job is to protect and maintain the safety of that person.

Lots of people don't realize this, but in matters where the safety of the President is in question.

That is actually considered by our Government to be a matter of national security.
And well as we all know, where a matter of national security is in question.
The government has the authority to do what it must
to ensure the safety and security and continuation of
our Constitutional form of government here in the United States.

It IS the duty of the Secret Service to protect the President
and candidates for President - by lethal force, if necessary,
and by less than lethal methods, if practical
(which is usually the case.)

Here is a video of the Secret Service NOT protecting the President.
As JFK's motorcade left Love Field (the Dallas airport)
the supervisor ordered the two agents
who were supposed to stand on the rear bumper of JFK's limo
to NOT take their positions.



JFK assassination: Secret Service Standdown 
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2016, 05:46:03 PM »
Yeah there were all kinds of things with Kennedy they would never allow a POTUS to do today. Like riding in an open convertible like that.
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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2016, 06:13:45 PM »
Jimmy Carter as I recall gave the SS fits, after his inaugural at the Capitol, he wanted to walk down Pa avenue rather than ride in the armored Limo, he loved stopping getting out and shaking hands with the crowd when there weren't enough people on the detail to control the crowds. He refused to wear body armor and like to walk around in a crowd in his shirt sleeves.
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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2016, 07:54:59 PM »
Jimmy Carter as I recall gave the SS fits, after his inaugural at the Capitol, he wanted to walk down Pa avenue rather than ride in the armored Limo, he loved stopping getting out and shaking hands with the crowd when there weren't enough people on the detail to control the crowds. He refused to wear body armor and like to walk around in a crowd in his shirt sleeves.
After he gave away the Canal, he's lucky somebody didn't try drowning him in it.

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 05:21:23 AM »
After he gave away the Canal, he's lucky somebody didn't try drowning him in it.

I have probably mentioned this before but Jimmy got tear gassed when the Shah arrived at the WH, the Pro Shah and Anti Shah demonstrators were going berserk fighting behind the white house, tear gassed was used to dispurse them, the wind was just right and Jimmy,standing on the steps of the rear portico waiting to greet the Shah's motorcade got a face full....rumors persist that someone....probably a demonstrator..... :wink: threw a few of those cannisters over the WH fence at just the right moment. :popcorn:
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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 05:37:40 AM »
I have probably mentioned this before but Jimmy got tear gassed when the Shah arrived at the WH, the Pro Shah and Anti Shah demonstrators were going berserk fighting behind the white house, tear gassed was used to dispurse them, the wind was just right and Jimmy,standing on the steps of the rear portico waiting to greet the Shah's motorcade got a face full....rumors persist that someone....probably a demonstrator..... :wink: threw a few of those cannisters over the WH fence at just the right moment. :popcorn:

I shook that fool's hand a week before he became Resident-elect, at the Detroit Economic Club where he was making his pitch. He was in complete shock, eyes glazed and just barely holding it together in the mob of Democrats and the media. (I met Coleman Young a few minutes later; I wanted to count my fingers after that handshake.) Carter? Just wipe my hand on my trousers and hope it comes off in the wash....

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 03:12:58 PM »
In 1992 the vermin got right up to Reagan:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=reagan+attacked+on+stage&view=detail&mid=11EAEE2551B82F7CEA4411EAEE2551B82F7CEA44&FORM=VIRE

If the bearded one had a shank, even a Lexan plastic knife, the gipper would be breathing his last right then and there.

So no, I had little faith in the Secret Service then, and less now.

If any SS Agent shot or even injured an unarmed "Gentle Giant" while protecting a GOP Candidate, the agent would be fired and there would be hell to pay. IMHO.

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2016, 03:17:41 PM »
In answer to your question, yes they have, shot people. And yes they would shoot libtards dead in the situation you describe above. 

They don't care who you are, their job is to protect and maintain the safety of that person.

Lots of people don't realize this, but in matters where the safety of the President is in question.

That is actually considered by our Government to be a matter of national security. And well as we all know, where a matter of national security is in question. The government has the authority to do what it must to ensure the safety and security and continuation of our Constitutional form of government here in the United States.

And that's the way it should be too.

http://www.secretservice.gov/about/history/events/

Obama has installed his cronies into every level of Government.

Generals - Fired.

IRS - Used to attack Political Opponents.

Yet somehow the SS remains pure of heart ? Ya think ?

I'd not be surprised if there was a staged attack, where an Agent was forced to fire, and "accidentally" hit the Candidate. Nah, could never happen in America. Anyone see my tinfoil hat ?


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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2016, 03:23:05 PM »
They're under your bed, kid. They're in the bushes. Up in trees. With binoculars.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2016, 03:27:41 PM »
Obama has installed his cronies into every level of Government.

Generals - Fired.

IRS - Used to attack Political Opponents.

Yet somehow the SS remains pure of heart ? Ya think ?

I'd not be surprised if there was a staged attack, where an Agent was forced to fire, and "accidentally" hit the Candidate. Nah, could never happen in America. Anyone see my tinfoil hat ?



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Re: Has the Secret Service ever fired their weapons - would they ?
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Now I see why you do not last long on other sites. 


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