I astronomy and history.   I just thought this was a great and thought this was a great video. I got my kids to watch it they loved it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/earth/earth_timeline/earth_formed

Great link, but I can't get the video to play.

If we could catch a planet forming and watch it that would be amazing.

I like astronomy too. It might be the oldest science there is. It's nice just to be alone under a dark sky with no one to bother me. Except it is rather cold out now.

Edit: This might get moved to the science section.

God made the heavens and the earth. Any 'planet forming now' would be a natural affect and not the work of God. God formed man from the dirt/dust of this earth and earth was managed and tilled by man. As far as we know there is no one else on any planet and if we do see beings like that it will be a faked illusion for political reasons and do not believe it.

Quote from: carnac on December 16, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
God made the heavens and the earth. Any 'planet forming now' would be a natural affect and not the work of God. God formed man from the dirt/dust of this earth and earth was managed and tilled by man. As far as we know there is no one else on any planet and if we do see beings like that it will be a faked illusion for political reasons and do not believe it.

Whatever floats your boat. 

Quote from: carnac on December 16, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
God made the heavens and the earth. Any 'planet forming now' would be a natural affect and not the work of God. God formed man from the dirt/dust of this earth and earth was managed and tilled by man. As far as we know there is no one else on any planet and if we do see beings like that it will be a faked illusion for political reasons and do not believe it.

WOW! I missed this earlier.
I have to ask, with all the evidence to the possibility of life beyond, why do you assume God only made the earth with life?
Isn't that a bit of a conceited view of life?

I have a question for carnac.

If God set all this into motion (and I say He did), then how can a continuation of His creation be considered "a natural effect and not the work of God"...?

You are technically correct that AS FAR AS WE KNOW there is no other form of life out there in space. What would it take to convince you extraterrestrial life does exist?

Quote from: quiller on January 05, 2014, 05:05:31 AM
I have a question for carnac.

If God set all this into motion (and I say He did), then how can a continuation of His creation be considered "a natural effect and not the work of God"...?

You are technically correct that AS FAR AS WE KNOW there is no other form of life out there in space. What would it take to convince you extraterrestrial life does exist?

I would expand on your question. What exactly is the difference between a "natural effect" and "the work of God?" I mean, even if God retired a while back and everything is sorta running on autopilot, didn't He set it all up to begin with? I'm of a mind to say that "natural effect" and "work of God" are two ways of saying the same thing.

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 05, 2014, 06:34:37 AM
I would expand on your question. What exactly is the difference between a "natural effect" and "the work of God?" I mean, even if God retired a while back and everything is sorta running on autopilot, didn't He set it all up to begin with? I'm of a mind to say that "natural effect" and "work of God" are two ways of saying the same thing.

My point exactly. Just because fallible man assigned seven of OUR days to what God created, does not make that so, any more than the existence of evolution proves the nonexistence of a higher design, or the nonexistence of other life forms in our universe.

Quote from: carnac on December 16, 2013, 08:38:28 PM
God made the heavens and the earth. Any 'planet forming now' would be a natural affect and not the work of God. God formed man from the dirt/dust of this earth and earth was managed and tilled by man. As far as we know there is no one else on any planet and if we do see beings like that it will be a faked illusion for political reasons and do not believe it.

I don't know what the Christian view is, so just going from my background, the Talmud (Moed Katan) does entertain the idea of extraterrestrials from Meroz failing to aid Devorah against Sisra (Judges 5).

Quote from: Montesquieu on January 05, 2014, 04:30:20 PM
I don't know what the Christian view is, so just going from my background, the Talmud (Moed Katan) does entertain the idea of extraterrestrials from Meroz failing to aid Devorah against Sisra (Judges 5).

I myself can't believe that a loving God would stop at only one creation.  But that is just my way of thinking.

Quote from: walkstall on January 05, 2014, 08:46:40 PM
I myself can't believe that a loving God would stop at only one creation.  But that is just my way of thinking.

Good point. Every scripture we have was produced by and for the inhabitants of just one planet. There's no reason for them to address the possibility of life elsewhere.

From a purely secular, scientific viewpoint, the verdict is pretty much the same. From what I've read, based on our current (and ever-expanding) knowledge of the galaxy and the universe, the odds that there is NOT another civilization similar to ours on some other planet are so small as to be negligible.

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 06, 2014, 05:36:58 AM
Good point. Every scripture we have was produced by and for the inhabitants of just one planet. There's no reason for them to address the possibility of life elsewhere.

From a purely secular, scientific viewpoint, the verdict is pretty much the same. From what I've read, based on our current (and ever-expanding) knowledge of the galaxy and the universe, the odds that there is NOT another civilization similar to ours on some other planet are so small as to be negligible.

How many thousands of GALAXIES have been identified? Within our own Milky Way we've identified many possible planets conducive to intelligent life. Multiply by the galaxies, and the math gets --- pun intended --- cosmic after that.

Quote from: quiller on January 06, 2014, 07:13:07 AM
How many thousands of GALAXIES have been identified? Within our own Milky Way we've identified many possible planets conducive to intelligent life. Multiply by the galaxies, and the math gets --- pun intended --- cosmic after that.

I can't find the research article, but I remember reading where researchers took a vacuum, placed a small amount of pure oxygen and hydrogen in the chamber, then bombarded it with what amounted to the equivalent of a lightning strike.

The result, DNA, the building blocks of life.

Quote from: Solar on December 24, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
WOW! I missed this earlier.
I have to ask, with all the evidence to the possibility of life beyond, why do you assume God only made the earth with life?
Isn't that a bit of a conceited view of life?

God is a God of creation, Solar you are correct in calling it arrogance to think we are the be all end all in the cosmos.

In fact quite to the contrary the scriptures tell us God has in fact created other life prior to mankind.

First, the animals came before man, according to the scriptures. B, the angelic host are living extra terrestrial, beings, which God created prior to man.

Not ET as in little green or grey men mind you, but not human, or from our dominion, which is planet Earth.

More and more, cosmologists are seeing there is a design to our universe, and thus there must be a designer at work also.

Those of us who have faith, call him God. There are three major discoveries mankind has made in recent years which point to a design, and thus a designer.

QuoteSo, what are these stunning discoveries that have scientists suddenly speaking of God? Three revolutionary discoveries from the fields of astronomy and molecular biology stand out:

1. The universe had a beginning (just as genesis one, verse one states)

2. The universe is just right for life

3. DNA coding reveals intelligence

...ut oh...bad time to be an atheist...

read more about it here...http://jesusonline.com/truth/god/more/science-christianity/#.UtobiRAo69I