Forget The History Of Socialism At Your Peril

Started by tac, October 12, 2016, 04:24:11 AM

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Forget The History Of Socialism At Your Peril
by Julie Custer

Having studied socialism in its various configurations, I know how it works. It sounds great. It looks good on paper. It's an interesting and tempting theory at an opportune time. So I understand why it's rearing its ugly head again. But once you start down that road, it evolves. And all of those sweet sounding promises fall to the wayside, one by one.

The economics of Socialism may work in theory, but in practice, as history clearly shows, it is unsustainable. And it doesn't take very long for things to go very badly. Soon someone stages a coup, the first regime is thrown out. Others take their place, but they bring weapons where the first group brought slogans and banners. These revolutionaries are angry and controlling, and instead of just jailing dissidents as did the first regime, the uncooperative are simply eliminated.

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Socialism, or communism, can work only if they are voluntary. For example, people work, earn, agree to collect the fruits of their work on a pile, and then everyone takes the same ammount of goods, or they take what they need, and alright. But if it is voluntary - then it is capitalism. Otherwise, it is just a blatant tyranny and thievery. It is so obvious. But some people would actually agree on tyranny and thievery, they would call it a just tyranny and thievery of the poor over the wealthy, and maybe that is the real issue. I don't know, it is the question of moral values, and why the mankind is constantly losing them. Maybe because the history must repeat itself, until we learn. It would be enough to be a Christian, I suppose, or a Jew, because God said: "You shall not steal. You shall not covet." So, basically, if you are a socialist or a communist authoritarian - then you must be anti-Christian, and maybe that is the point: "There is no God - so give me all your money or die!" It is so funny that leftists believe they are so spiritual and anti-materialistic, when there are actually no greater materialists than themselves.
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Solar

Quote from: milos on October 12, 2016, 02:36:13 PM
Socialism, or communism, can work only if they are voluntary. For example, people work, earn, agree to collect the fruits of their work on a pile, and then everyone takes the same ammount of goods, or they take what they need, and alright. But if it is voluntary - then it is capitalism. Otherwise, it is just a blatant tyranny and thievery. It is so obvious. But some people would actually agree on tyranny and thievery, they would call it a just tyranny and thievery of the poor over the wealthy, and maybe that is the real issue. I don't know, it is the question of moral values, and why the mankind is constantly losing them. Maybe because the history must repeat itself, until we learn. It would be enough to be a Christian, I suppose, or a Jew, because God said: "You shall not steal. You shall not covet." So, basically, if you are a socialist or a communist authoritarian - then you must be anti-Christian, and maybe that is the point: "There is no God - so give me all your money or die!" It is so funny that leftists believe they are so spiritual and anti-materialistic, when there are actually no greater materialists than themselves.
So true Milos. The Dim party is heading quickly down the road to communism as we speak, aligning with the corporate world in playing favorites, all the while while demonizing corporatism and claiming there is an entire class of victims to be protected from evil corporations.
God I wish these damn kids would wake the fuck up before it's too late.
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Quote from: Solar on October 12, 2016, 04:44:03 PM
So true Milos. The Dim party is heading quickly down the road to communism as we speak, aligning with the corporate world in playing favorites, all the while while demonizing corporatism and claiming there is an entire class of victims to be protected from evil corporations.
God I wish these damn kids would wake the fuck up before it's too late.

It is not just kids. I have several friends who all in for Hillary/Obama and are totally oblivious to what their goals are.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 13, 2016, 04:41:56 AM
It is not just kids. I have several friends who all in for Hillary/Obama and are totally oblivious to what their goals are.
Really? Lying and fraud doesn't bother them? I have standards when it comes to friends, and anyone that demonstrates they willingly excuse these behaviors in others? In my book, can't be trusted and don't deserve my friendship.
I'm sure you meant acquaintances?
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Quote from: Solar on October 13, 2016, 06:54:30 AM
Really? Lying and fraud doesn't bother them? I have standards when it comes to friends, and anyone that demonstrates they willingly excuse these behaviors in others? In my book, can't be trusted and don't deserve my friendship.
I'm sure you meant acquaintances?

Yes, but my wife has a cousin who is one of these people.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 13, 2016, 07:46:34 AM
Yes, but my wife has a cousin who is one of these people.
Ahhh yes, family. We have them as well, though since one cousin got put away for his own safety, things have calmed down over the last 40 years. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on October 13, 2016, 08:15:33 AM
Ahhh yes, family. We have them as well, though since one cousin got put away for his own safety, things have calmed down over the last 40 years. :biggrin:

Don't we all have one or two in the family line.  My wife has one on her side that she enjoys pinning to the wall when she gets out of line.  :biggrin:
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Quote from: walkstall on October 13, 2016, 08:28:45 AM
Don't we all have one or two in the family line.  My wife has one on her side that she enjoys pinning to the wall when she gets out of line.  :biggrin:
Yeah, I've got two on my moms sisters side, one claimed to have PTSD from Nam, problem is, he dodged the draft and Canada deported his ass for being an idiot, I kid you not. He's on govt aid of some sort.
The other is his half brother, as a kid used to eat fire crackers and matches, screwed his neighbors dog, got thrown in an mental institution for inciting a riot at a Hells Angels gathering, for yelling bikers suck donkey dick.
He's in and out of the nut house regularly.

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Quote from: Solar on October 13, 2016, 10:47:07 AM
Yeah, I've got two on my moms sisters side, one claimed to have PTSD from Nam, problem is, he dodged the draft and Canada deported his ass for being an idiot, I kid you not. He's on govt aid of some sort.
The other is his half brother, as a kid used to eat fire crackers and matches, screwed his neighbors dog, got thrown in an mental institution for inciting a riot at a Hells Angels gathering, for yelling bikers suck donkey dick.
He's in and out of the nut house regularly.

Talk about a perfect description of democrats!  :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: supsalemgr on October 13, 2016, 11:10:38 AM
Talk about a perfect description of democrats!  :lol: :lol:
Yes, they are, and they are as white trash as they come.
My dad never made us visit them, told mom you're on your own if you want to see your sister.
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One of the first things an authoritarian communist government would usually do is to deprive the people of their land. It was not only because of the forced industrialization, but also because of the control. Because, people who live on and of their own private land are the most free of all. That is why the BLM is forcing ranchers to give away their land and to move into cities. City population is easily controlled by government. And that is why the Bundy brothers' trial in Oregon is the most important event at this time. If they are officially convicted as domestic terrorists, then the same fate is guaranteed for all other patriots. The defense must win this case. And I must apologize, because I have set some bad jokes about their list of needed things during the standoff, I didn't realise it was that serious situation and that someone would be murdered by the police. This adorable little creature knows what she is fighting for.

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Solar

Ya know what's sad Milos? She represents less than 000.1% of the youth in America.
Pick any other person her age, and i guarantee you they have zero understanding of our Rights, their Rights or the sacrifices our forefathers went through to secure what is being trashed today.
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Quote from: Solar on October 14, 2016, 05:31:54 AM
Ya know what's sad Milos? She represents less than 000.1% of the youth in America.
Pick any other person her age, and i guarantee you they have zero understanding of our Rights, their Rights or the sacrifices our forefathers went through to secure what is being trashed today.
The percentage is higher than you estimate - though is still uncomfortably low. You interview youth of either gender living in low population states, who have been raised in the economy of agriculture, who have most likely had some type of chore assigned them as soon as they could walk upright and carry something without falling over, and you will find the majority do not and will never fall for the glitz and hype of progressive humanist philosophy - which includes communist/socialist economics. Progressive humanism tends to be a symptom of living with high population densities.