Quote from: milos on August 26, 2014, 09:11:01 AM
I think this is a misunderstanding of Tesla's intentions, and that by the "free energy" Tesla meant an energy system which would need no natural resources to refill, except for the energy of the Sun, which is constantly present during the daylight. Tesla wanted to invent a self-acting engine which would gather solar energy from the air and broadcast it wirelessly around the world. That probably meant anyone could produce or buy these engines. It would be much cheaper and more efficient and reliable energy system. Today, to make energy, we mostly use energy systems which need coal, oil, gas, or water refilling. And sometimes we use wind or Sun but very rarely. But this Tesla's self-acting engine would use only the energy of the Sun, and would need no other resources to refill. It would lower the production costs, meaning a cheaper energy for machines and transportation, so it would boost small businesses and every individual would benefit and profit out of it. So, for example, companies could build or buy such engines to cover their energy needs. Or municipalities could gather the money to buy one such engine to cover the energy needs of every home in their area. There is no need for this to be a government program supported by taxpayers money.

Here is an article on this subject.

http://www.free-energy.ws/nikola-tesla.html

Nikola Tesla was a multi-disciplinary genius. His discovery of the rotating magnetic field in 1882 lead to a series of US Patents in 1888, which gave us the AC electric power system still in use today. This one achievement earned him the honor of being called "The Man Who Invented the 20th Century".

But his research went way beyond what has found its way into everyday use. He is the recognized inventor of the brushless AC induction motor, radio, remote control by radio, super-conductivity, fluorescent lighting, the bladeless turbine engine and pump, the capacitor discharge ignition system for automobile engines, the mechanical oscillator, and dozens of other inventions. But he also discovered that useful energy could be extracted from the heat of the ambient air, and that electric power in the form of Radiant Energy could be broadcast to everyone in the world through the ground.

In his masterful article The Problem of Increasing Human Energy, first published in Century Illustrated Magazine in June 1900, Tesla discusses the "energy situation" like never before. After discussing every known method of gathering energy from the Natural World, Tesla departs into the unknown. His first discussion is about a machine that can gather heat from the ambient air. He calls it a "Self-acting Engine" since it could run indefinitely from the solar energy stored in the air. He called it "the ideal way of obtaining motive power".

Tesla worked for years trying to solve all of the technical issues presented by the idea. His work with liquified air, his discovery of super-conductivity at ultra-low temperatures, his bladeless turbine and mechanical oscillator were all spin-offs from his work on the ambient air engine. He was convinced the system could work and that it was absolutely the best way to harness solar energy.

On a world that is warming up, tapping ambient sources of heat in the air, water and ground are the most important technologies to develop at this time.

But Nikola Tesla's most famous attempt to provide everyone in the world with free energy was his World Power System, a method of broadcasting electrical energy without wires, through the ground. His Wardenclyffe Tower was never finished, but his dream of providing energy to all points on the globe is still alive today.

Funny, we already have that, it's called nuclear power generation, and every home has a meter to measure their individual usage and pay accordingly.
Unlike the dream of a socialist, where you pay the same as the corporation down the street using 100 times the energy you are.
That's how Capitalism works, the Mkt decides what works, not the Govt.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 27, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Nikola Tesla was a great visionary and technological genius, I can't begin to comprehend his unique and higher intellect when it comes to technology and science.

That being said he was a utopian fool in economics, and insane when it came to his social life (married a pigeon or something). I wouldn't trust him in any government position, the government is not science despite what utopian communists believe one expert or even 100,000 experts are not as smart as 1,000,000 citizens and it is wholly impossible to predict the needs and consumer patterns to a degree you could plan in it all in a state owned economy and make it work. We have been there before, it's called socialism.

Besides we already basically have a energy that is practically limitless and nearly free by the laws of economics, and that is oil. First they said in 20 years we would run out of oil, then 50 years, then 100 years, then 200 years, and now they finally admit they don't know. Lets use oil and bring about economic prosperity instead of just talking about hypothetical utopias.

I am not a scientist either, but when a man like Tesla said there is a way for us to produce electric power using the energy of cosmic rays, then I must believe him. Just two hundred years ago, people thought human flight was a hypothetical fantasy. Today it is normal for people to fly. A hundred years ago, people thought space flight was a hypothetical fantasy. Today it is normal that people fly into universe. Fifty years ago, cell phones were science fiction. Now everyone has a cell phone. (And I don't mean free cell phone, lol.) So, I am sure it would be completely normal each man and woman have their own little wireless electric power device using the energy of cosmic rays or solar rays one day, just like they have cell phones today. And it will be economically smart and efficient and reliable and clean and cheap power, made from an energy source which is directly available to every individual, because it is present everywhere around us in limitless quantities, and it would make every individual more independent. Could you imagine what boost in economy would that make? Oil, as an energy source, besides the fact it makes pollution, is not directly available to all private individuals, but private individuals depend on oil producers and suppliers instead. And oil will be useless one day we have technology to fly deep space, in that order we simply must develop power devices which use some energy present in the universe, such as cosmic rays.

Tesla didn't marry a pigeon, he just stated he had a dove which was like his spouse. He never married, nor had a social life, because he was completely dedicated to scientific work, and he thought a wife would distract him from his science. He didn't have any political aspirations. As far as I know, Tesla never proposed a state owned economy.

Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2014, 05:31:20 AM
Funny, we already have that, it's called nuclear power generation, and every home has a meter to measure their individual usage and pay accordingly.
Unlike the dream of a socialist, where you pay the same as the corporation down the street using 100 times the energy you are.
That's how Capitalism works, the Mkt decides what works, not the Govt.

Just like with the oil, nuclear power is an energy source which is not directly available to every private individual, but private individuals depend on nuclear power producers and suppliers. And nuclear power is also very dangerous, we saw what happened in Chernobyl and Fukushima. Electric power made from cosmic or solar rays would be an energy source directly available to each individual, and it would make every individual more independent. This is not a question of politics, but a question of scientific and technological advance. Does anyone believe people will stick to today's energy sources, like coal, oil, gas, or nuclear power, forever? Science will and shall advance, that is a law of human history.

Quote from: milos on August 28, 2014, 02:33:01 AM
in that order we simply must develop power devices which use some energy present in the universe, such as cosmic rays.
Electric power made from cosmic or solar rays would be an energy source directly available to each individual, and it would make every individual more independent. This is not a question of politics, but a question of scientific and technological advance. Does anyone believe people will stick to today's energy sources, like coal, oil, gas, or nuclear power, forever? Science will and shall advance, that is a law of human history.

Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?

Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2014, 06:21:21 AM
Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?

People idolize Tesla, no one is denying his technological genius, but as far as the modern information society go we owe far more to Edison for the real world application of electricity than to Tesla. And yet people despise Thomas Edison, sure he was a bully but at least he made it happen.

But I wouldn't trust Edison to govern either. Why do we care so much about the political views of scientists, when scientists are probably more clueless than a barmaid in the field of political science?

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 28, 2014, 09:05:45 AM
People idolize Tesla, no one is denying his technological genius, but as far as the modern information society go we owe far more to Edison for the real world application of electricity than to Tesla. And yet people despise Thomas Edison, sure he was a bully but at least he made it happen.

Actually Tesla brought AC power.
But I agree, it was Edison that opened the door for great minds like Tesla to succeed.
Honestly, there wouldn't be an Internet if not for Edison, not that he played a direct part in it's birth, but he set the ball in motion far sooner by his inventions.

QuoteBut I wouldn't trust Edison to govern either. Why do we care so much about the political views of scientists, when scientists are probably more clueless than a barmaid in the field of political science?

Bingo! Like the AGW group attempting to set policy regarding Capitalism.. The agenda behind the push is blatantly communist.

Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2014, 06:21:21 AM
Tesla lost because the world wanted viable energy now, and what Tesla proposed was still in it's infancy.
Would you not assume had his dream been a reality, that we wouldn't be using it today on some scale?

Yes, Tesla was far beyond his era. But his time is still to come. As he stated:

"It seems that I have always been ahead of my time. I had to wait nineteen years before Niagara was harnessed by my system, fifteen years before the basic inventions for wireless which I gave to the world in 1893 were applied universally."

"The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter - for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way."

"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html

And something on Edison:

"If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor."

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/

Today, I watched a "Pawn Stars" episode with a poem written by Nikola Tesla. I found a video of it on You Tube, but it is of a poor quality, recorded from TV screen.

Pawn Stars -nikola's poem

And another interesting video on Nikola Tesla.

https://curiosity.com/video/nikola-tesla-great-minds-scishow/

Quote from: milos on August 29, 2014, 02:13:47 AM
Yes, Tesla was far beyond his era. But his time is still to come. As he stated:

"It seems that I have always been ahead of my time. I had to wait nineteen years before Niagara was harnessed by my system, fifteen years before the basic inventions for wireless which I gave to the world in 1893 were applied universally."

"The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter - for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way."

"Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine."

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/n/nikola_tesla.html

And something on Edison:

"If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor."

http://thinkexist.com/quotes/nikola_tesla/

What Tesla waited on was mostly the taming of the falls by mechanical means. There is much more to hydroelectric power generation than simply dropping a magic generator into a river.

The hydro business is one of the most capital-intensive fields yet devised by humans. Almost all the capital must be invested up front because that's where the money gets spent -- dams and diversion canals and penstocks and massive powerhouses designed for much more than merely holding generators in place. For every dollar earned from a hydro venture, at least 90 cents are spent up front. The generators that Tesla designed were just icing on a cake he had nothing to do with.

This one is an ethnic Hungarian, but she's a Serbian pride. Her name is still a synonym for tennis in Serbia.

Monika Seleš



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles

Monica Seles (Serbian: Monika Seleš, Моника Селеш; Hungarian: Szeles Mónika, pronounced [sɛlɛʃ], born December 2, 1973) is the former Yugoslav world no. 1 professional tennis player and a member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame. She was born and raised in Novi Sad, SR Serbia, SFR Yugoslavia. She became a naturalized United States citizen in 1994 and also received Hungarian citizenship in June 2007. She won nine Grand Slam singles titles, winning eight of them while a citizen of Yugoslavia and one while a citizen of the United States.

In 1990, Seles became the youngest-ever French Open champion at the age of 16. She went on to win eight Grand Slam singles titles before her 20th birthday and was the year-end World No. 1 in 1991 and 1992. However, on April 30, 1993 she was the victim of an on-court attack, when a man stabbed her in the back with a 9-inch-long knife. Seles did not return to tennis for over two years. Though she enjoyed some success after rejoining the tour in 1995, including a fourth Australian Open success in 1996, she was unable to consistently reproduce her best form. She played her last professional match at the 2003 French Open, but did not officially retire until February 2008.

In June 2011, she was named one of the "30 Legends of Women's Tennis: Past, Present and Future" by Time.

Zolbol's Tennis Special 66 - A Young Monica Seles.avi

Monica Seles Interview (April 17 2009)

Here is another one. This one was involved in Texas Revolution.

George Fisher



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Fisher_%28settler%29

George (Jorge) Fisher (April 1795 - June 11, 1873) was a customs officer and early leader of the Texas Revolution.

Fisher was originally named Đorđe Šagić/Ђорђе Шагић, and also known as Đorđe Ribar/Ђорђе Рибар, which translated into English is George Fisher. He was born to Serbian parents in Székesfehérvár, Hungary in April 1795. Following his father's death Đorđe was sent to the Serbian Orthodox Church seminary in Sremski Karlovci, to train as a priest. He left in 1813 to join the Serbian revolutionary forces during the First Serbian Uprising. He traveled to Philadelphia in the United States in 1814 before heading to Mexico. In 1825, Fisher helped found the first York Rite Masonic Lodge in Mexico. He became a naturalized Mexican citizen in 1829 and contracted to settle five hundred families on lands in Texas formerly held by Haden Edward.

Fisher later was in charge of a customs house at the far north end of Galveston Bay, succeeding the very unpopular John Davis Bradburn in this post. Fisher demanded that all ships landing at the mouth of the Brazos River pay their customs duties to him at Anahuac. This was a great hardship to area boat captains due to the great distances between that port and other Texas seaports. Fisher was forced to resign his post in early 1832 after a military confrontation with Texian settlers.

Later that year, Fisher began publishing the liberal newspaper Mercurio del Puerto de Matamoros in Matamoros. On October 13, 1835, Fisher and José Antonio Mexía organized a movement in New Orleans to attack Tampico and instigate a revolt among the eastern states of Mexico.

In 1837, he became a commission agent in Houston, in the Republic of Texas, and served as justice of the peace in 1839. Fisher was admitted to the bar in 1840 and was elected to the Houston city council. In 1843 he became a major in the Texas militia.

He traveled to Panama in 1850 and on to California in 1851. He served in various civic and administrative posts in San Francisco from 1860 to 1870. Soon after retiring, he was appointed by the King of Greece as Consul for that nation.

Fisher was married four times. He died in San Francisco on June 11, 1873.

And how could I forget this guy? His father, Nikola Janković, was of Serbian origin.

"Weird Al" Yankovic



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic

Alfred Matthew "Weird Al" Yankovic (/ˈjæŋkəvɪk/ YANG-kə-vik; born October 23, 1959) is an American singer, songwriter, parodist, record producer, satirist, actor, music video director, film producer, and author. He is known for his humorous songs that make light of popular culture and often parody specific songs by contemporary musical acts, original songs that are style pastiches of the work of other acts, and polka medleys of several popular songs, featuring his favored instrument, the accordion.

Yankovic was born in Downey, California and raised in Lynwood, California. He is the only child of Nicholas Louis Yankovic (June 4, 1917 – April 9, 2004) and Mary Elizabeth Yankovic (née Vivalda; February 7, 1923 – April 9, 2004). His father was born in Kansas City, Kansas, of Yugoslavian descent, and began living in California after serving during World War II; he believed "the key to success" was "doing for a living whatever makes you happy" and often reminded his son of this philosophy. Nick Yankovic married Mary Elizabeth Vivalda in 1949. Mary, who was of Italian and English descent, had come to California from Kentucky, and gave birth to Alfred ten years later.

Quote from: Mountainshield on August 27, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Nikola Tesla was a great visionary and technological genius, I can't begin to comprehend his unique and higher intellect when it comes to technology and science.

That being said he was a utopian fool in economics, and insane when it came to his social life (married a pigeon or something). I wouldn't trust him in any government position, the government is not science despite what utopian communists believe one expert or even 100,000 experts are not as smart as 1,000,000 citizens and it is wholly impossible to predict the needs and consumer patterns to a degree you could plan in it all in a state owned economy and make it work. We have been there before, it's called socialism.

Besides we already basically have a energy that is practically limitless and nearly free by the laws of economics, and that is oil. First they said in 20 years we would run out of oil, then 50 years, then 100 years, then 200 years, and now they finally admit they don't know. Lets use oil and bring about economic prosperity instead of just talking about hypothetical utopias.

I could not disagree more. Yes, we do have an energy source that is literally without any sort of limit, but it's not oil. It is nuclear. The sooner all parties get this fact through their heads, the better off we all shall be.

And of course.

Milorad Čavić



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milorad_%C4%8Cavi%C4%87

Milorad Čavić (Serbian Cyrillic: Милорад Чавић, pronounced [mîloraːd tʃǎːʋitɕ]; born May 31, 1984) is a retired US-born Serbian swimmer.

Born in Anaheim, California and a citizen of both Serbia and the United States, he attended Tustin High School in California, where he set four CIF records and a national high school mark in the 50 yd freestyle. While swimming for the University of California, Berkeley and training with Mike Bottom, Čavić set a new school and Pac-10 record in the 100 yd butterfly (45.44 s).

Catherine Oxenberg



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Oxenberg

Catherine Oxenberg (Serbian: Катарина Оксенберг, born September 22, 1961) is an American actress best known for her performance as Amanda Carrington on the 1980s prime time soap opera Dynasty. The daughter of Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia, Oxenberg, though not noble or royal herself, is a descendant of the Serbian House of Karađorđević. She has dual citizenship, American and Serbian.