Quote from: T Hunt on July 01, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
There was no switch in the parties.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 05:39:19 PM
Just look at the way southern conservatives switched from voting Democrat to voting Republican.

Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 02, 2020, 05:44:47 PM
Joe, I'm not interested in your opinion. When you get some facts that you can reference try again. I don't believe anything you just posted not for a minute

I say yes it did.

By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.

The South, went from choosing Democrats, to choosing Republicans after 1960.







https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
I say yes it did.

By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.

The South, went from choosing Democrats, to choosing Republicans after 1960.







https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

And the north went from choosing republicans to choosing democrats. So I guess all the people changed their beliefs at the same time.................Or, did the parties change.  What is your point? Did the country ever have a party that was hell bent on destroying this country like the democrats are now? Are you trying to imply that since the old south voted democrat that they were all conservatives? Are you trying to say all southerns were "for" slavery? What has been stated on this forum is that the conservatives have not ever been in favor of slavery, not the old democrats or the old republicans.


One other little fact your maps do not show, the dems in the south, while not that conservative, were not near as liberal as the dems in the north, and were far more likely to vote with the republicans than the democrats.

Quote from: Possum on July 03, 2020, 04:31:43 AM
And the north went from choosing republicans to choosing democrats. So I guess all the people changed their beliefs at the same time.................Or, did the parties change.  What is your point? Did the country ever have a party that was hell bent on destroying this country like the democrats are now? Are you trying to imply that since the old south voted democrat that they were all conservatives? Are you trying to say all southerns were "for" slavery? What has been stated on this forum is that the conservatives have not ever been in favor of slavery, not the old democrats or the old republicans.


One other little fact your maps do not show, the dems in the south, while not that conservative, were not near as liberal as the dems in the north, and were far more likely to vote with the republicans than the democrats.

\Wait'll he forced to post the 2020 map. Reagan Landslide all over again.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
I say yes it did.

By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.

The South, went from choosing Democrats, to choosing Republicans after 1960.







https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

I am one of those. Do you know why this happened?

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 03, 2020, 05:02:40 AM
I am one of those. Do you know why this happened?

What's your take on it?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 03, 2020, 05:07:14 PM
What's your take on it?

It is quite simple. The democrat party veered severely left after JFK. The great majority of folks in the South lean conservative. Former Gov. Zeb Miller of GA summed it up. He said, "The democrat party left me." Nixon was astute enough to see this and took advantage of what the democrats did.

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 04, 2020, 04:53:13 AM
It is quite simple. The democrat party veered severely left after JFK. The great majority of folks in the South lean conservative. Former Gov. Zeb Miller of GA summed it up. He said, "The democrat party left me." Nixon was astute enough to see this and took advantage of what the democrats did.

Goldwater was the one that first implemented the Southern Strategy.

He was a principled man, but southern racists saw in him an ally. Because he believed in State's Rights, they voted for him thinking he'd allow them to continue to discriminate against Blacks in the south.

In 1968 those southern racists supported George Wallace. They basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.

And let me say, No, not everyone in the South was racist, and I don't think Goldwater was either.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 04, 2020, 04:26:41 PM
Goldwater was the one that first implemented the Southern Strategy.

He was a principled man, but southern racists saw in him an ally. Because he believed in State's Rights, they voted for him thinking he'd allow them to continue to discriminate against Blacks in the south.

In 1968 those southern racists supported George Wallace. They basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.

And let me say, No, not everyone in the South was racist, and I don't think Goldwater was either.

So, believing in our constitutional States rights is now raciest too?

Quote from: Possum on July 05, 2020, 03:43:30 AM
So, believing in our constitutional States rights is now raciest too?

Why would you ask such a thing?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 04, 2020, 04:26:41 PM
Goldwater was the one that first implemented the Southern Strategy.

He was a principled man, but southern racists saw in him an ally. Because he believed in State's Rights, they voted for him thinking he'd allow them to continue to discriminate against Blacks in the south.

In 1968 those southern racists supported George Wallace. They basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.

And let me say, No, not everyone in the South was racist, and I don't think Goldwater was either.

Now, I'm going to post some actual truths for you and see if you can grasp the reality, that what the left claimed, was a lie and a rewrite of history.

https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1048554852210535/

Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 06:22:04 AM
Now, I'm going to post some actual truths for you and see if you can grasp the reality, that what the left claimed, was a lie and a rewrite of history.

https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/1048554852210535/

That video didn't disprove anything I've said.

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 06:29:38 AM
That video didn't disprove anything I've said.

Other than the fact there was no such critter as the Southern Strategy!
It was a myth created by the left, they needed an excuse as to why the South was slowly moving away from their racist past.

And don't lie, you didn't watch the video because you're afraid of being proven wrong.
The only racists out there has always been Dims, own it! Now, watch the damn video and quit living in the dark!

Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 06:33:35 AM
Other than the fact there was no such critter as the Southern Strategy!
It was a myth created by the left, they needed an excuse as to why the South was slowly moving away from their racist past.

And don't lie, you didn't watch the video because you're afraid of being proven wrong.
The only racists out there has always been Dims, own it! Now, watch the damn video and quit living in the dark!

I've seen that video a number of times and it doesn't disprove or refute what I've been saying. Maybe you can.

I wouldn't say that the South was moving away from its racist past when they switched from voting Democrat, because of the CRA, to voting for George Wallace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-kBVggFrs

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 06:52:11 AM
I've seen that video a number of times and it doesn't disprove or refute what I've been saying. Maybe you can.

I wouldn't say that the South was moving away from its racist past when they switched from voting Democrat, because of the CRA, to voting for George Wallace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C-kBVggFrs

You're such a rube! Wallace was a Dim, you racist fool!!

Own it lib, the left has always been the party of racists and still is to this very day!!!

Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 07:04:36 AM

You're such a rube! Wallace was a Dim, you racist fool!!

Own it lib, the left has always been the party of racists and still is to this very day!!!

Yes, and like supsalemgr, the Dems left him. The same way that Reagan felt left by the party, and Zeb Miller.

That's why he ran for President against the Dems and won the South in the American Independent Party.