Did the Party Switch Happen ?

Started by joesixpack, July 02, 2020, 06:02:35 PM

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Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 07:17:33 AM
Yes, and like supsalemgr, the Dems left him. The same way that Reagan felt left by the party, and Zeb Miller.

That's why he ran for President against the Dems and won the South in the American Independent Party.
Own it Joe, you thought Wallace was a Pub. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 07:28:04 AM
Own it Joe, you thought Wallace was a Pub. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nope. He ran against Nixon, and beat him in the South too. Like I said, they basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.
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a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 07:35:38 AM
Nope. He ran against Nixon, and beat him in the South too. Like I said, they basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.
What? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 05:26:08 AM
Why would you ask such a thing?
Again, here is what YOU said
"southern racists saw in him an ally. Because he believed in State's Rights, they voted for him thinking he'd allow them to continue to discriminate against Blacks in the south." 
In other words, there would be no discrimination if it were not for State's Rights.

joesixpack

Quote from: Possum on July 05, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
Again, here is what YOU said
"southern racists saw in him an ally. Because he believed in State's Rights, they voted for him thinking he'd allow them to continue to discriminate against Blacks in the south." 
In other words, there would be no discrimination if it were not for State's Rights.

That doesn't mean that believing in States' Rights is racist.

It was used by racists as a reason to discriminate and mistreat Blacks.

You can be pro States Rights and Anti-Slavery.

Unfortunately, those that were southern racists used the mantra of States rights as an excuse to segregate, disenfranchise, and mistreat Blacks in the South.
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Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 07:35:38 AM
Nope. He ran against Nixon, and beat him in the South too. Like I said, they basically voted for whoever they thought would give them the leeway to mistreat Blacks.
OK, and who voted for him? DIMS!!! You know, the racists party?
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Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
That doesn't mean that believing in States' Rights is racist.

It was used by racists as a reason to discriminate and mistreat Blacks.

You can be pro States Rights and Anti-Slavery.

Unfortunately, those that were southern racists used the mantra of States rights as an excuse to segregate, disenfranchise, and mistreat Blacks in the South.
You're the one who wrote it.

joesixpack

Quote from: Possum on July 05, 2020, 05:13:16 PM
You're the one who wrote it.

And you're the one who misunderstood it. I hope it's clear now. I don't mind explaining my points if they're misunderstood.
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Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
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Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 05:00:32 PM
OK, and who voted for him? DIMS!!! You know, the racists party?

And they've been voting Republican ever since (with 1 exception)...that's funny.
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noun: democracy
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Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Solar

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 05:33:31 PM
And they've been voting Republican ever since (with 1 exception)...that's funny.
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

On a side note, check out the video in Dirt's thread. I know you see Black people as inferior, but try and struggle through it.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/why-is-the-left-so-scared/
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Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 05:37:20 PM
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

On a side note, check out the video in Dirt's thread. I know you see Black people as inferior, but try and struggle through it.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/why-is-the-left-so-scared/

Look at the election maps.

I speak to, hang out with, and debate with Black people in real life.

What's special about the one in the video? I can't even debate him cause I don't know the guy  :laugh:
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Dirtbomb

Quote from: joesixpack on July 02, 2020, 06:02:35 PM
I say yes it did.

By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.

The South, went from choosing Democrats, to choosing Republicans after 1960.







https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/
That is not a party switch Joe. A party switch by definition is when a person quits the party they're in and joins a different party.
In the 2016 election there were many Democrats that voted for Donald Trump oh, there were also many Republicans that voted for Hillary Clinton. That is not a party switch. What you are referring to is voting across party lines. So try again to prove your party switch
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joesixpack

Quote from: Dirtbomb on July 23, 2020, 07:02:22 AM
That is not a party switch Joe. A party switch by definition is when a person quits the party they're in and joins a different party.
In the 2016 election there were many Democrats that voted for Donald Trump oh, there were also many Republicans that voted for Hillary Clinton. That is not a party switch. What you are referring to is voting across party lines. So try again to prove your party switch

By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.
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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative

Possum

Quote from: joesixpack on July 23, 2020, 09:42:28 AM
By party switch, we're referring to who the voters choose.
If the parties switched like you say it did, and who's to doubt you, you have nailed it every time,  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: When did the republican party do all the looting and burning, and rioting etc? When has the republican party ever stood for the socialist? When did the republican party stand for tearing down this country? or taking a knee? or any of the other B.S. that is now the democrat platform? One thing your charts do not show you, for years the democratic party was split in southern democrats and northern democrats, the southern were not true conservatives but the northern were a lot more liberal, so liberal in fact that in several votes the southern would side with the republicans to stop the northern B.S.
Your charts are just for looking at, they do not tell you anything.

joesixpack

Quote from: Possum on July 23, 2020, 12:54:05 PM
If the parties switched like you say it did, and who's to doubt you, you have nailed it every time,  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: When did the republican party do all the looting and burning, and rioting etc? When has the republican party ever stood for the socialist? When did the republican party stand for tearing down this country? or taking a knee? or any of the other B.S. that is now the democrat platform? One thing your charts do not show you, for years the democratic party was split in southern democrats and northern democrats, the southern were not true conservatives but the northern were a lot more liberal, so liberal in fact that in several votes the southern would side with the republicans to stop the northern B.S.
Your charts are just for looking at, they do not tell you anything.

A lot of unrelated questions...but thank you for acknowledging that the Democrats were split between the "liberal"-North and "conservative"-South.

Those Southern Democrats voters, or Dixiecrats as they were called, were the ones that started voting Republican. That's the Party Switch I'm referring to.



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noun: democracy
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Reps pre 1912 = mostly Progressive
Dems pre 1928 = mostly Conservative