Traitor.

This man was born into a family of well-known wealthy people at that time, and his wife's uncle and his own distant relative was the President of the United States from the Republican Party.

Hundreds of books in various languages ​​have been written about life and political career, and to this day he remains an example of the president for some and a shame of the country and a traitor for others.

But it was impossible and is impossible to call such a popular person as FDR a traitor aloud, therefore he is affectionately called "Traitor of his class", apparently understanding by this, that the FDR pursued a policy in the country "against the rich in favor of the poor."

I will not retell you a story, you know it better than I do.

I want to discuss with you, what thoughts this man was guided by, seeking absolute power in the country?

In 1933, Stalin took away almost 5 million tons of grain from Soviet peasants. In the republics of the USSR, especially in Ukraine, famine began. Everyone knows about it. But not everyone knows where this grain was sold.

More precisely, it was not even sold, but exchanged. At 400 plants and factories for the implementation of the Stalin plan "Industrialization", which were brought from the United States by American specialists. Engineers and even workers from the United States built factories for Stalin in his "five-year plans". The Russians slaves did only the most rough work there with picks and shovels.

I do not know if it was this trade agreement between Roosevelt and Stalin that led to the intensification of the "Great Depression", but there is no doubt that it helped.

1) So, FDR with his own hands, using what thoughts unknown, built the military might of the enemy of civilization, Comrade Stalin.

2) Again, it is not clear why Comrade Roosevelt accepted Comrade Stalin's proposal to establish diplomatic relations at the level of plenipotentiary ambassadors.

3) Further, or rather in 1939, when Stalin and Hitler attacked Poland with great force from both sides, Comrade Roosevelt did not break off diplomatic relations with Soviet Russia at all.

This begs the question of whether, was Roosevelt a Soviet spy, especially since very soon, knowing full well that the USSR and Japan signed the Non-Aggression Act, Roosevelt unleashes a war in the Pacific. In order to further liberate communist China from the Japanese. Now we are all reaping the consequences of Roosevelt's war against Japan.

4) Comrade Roosevelt and his government care very much about Comrade Stalin and make him a beneficiary of Lend-Lease, huge in terms of money and material costs (for which the Soviet Union never paid).

In the USSR, since 1941, when the Soviets suffered real military defeats from Germany, the United States sent 400 light tanks (there were no others in the United States at that time) and 200 aircraft monthly. In the future, aid to Soviet Russia only increases. What did the USA send to the USSR! Steam locomotives, carousel looms, aluminum for aircraft, armor steel, copper, zinc and bronze, the Soviet army ate American stew and American bread, and drove American Willis and Studebakers on American gasoline.

5) Comrade Roosevelt was unusually strict with his best friend and partner, Great Britain, but Comrade Joe was allowed to do whatever he liked. As a result, Great Britain lost all its colonies, and the USSR gained half of Europe, China, Vietnam and Korea.

Against this background, sending many hundreds of kilometers of barbed wire to the USSR to enclose the Gulag camps is a small prank.

The country had just started to come out of the Depression, when in 37-38 it went into a deep recession.

In 1940, over 12% of Americans were on "unemployment benefits."

Maybe this is why Roosevelt needed the war so much that, having intelligence reports that the Japanese wanted to attack Pearl Harbor, the Roosevelt administration allowed them to do so?

After all, they perfectly understood that the subsequent war would write off all their sins from them.

Socialism in the United States did not triumph under Roosevelt.

But for some reason, I keep thinking that we are now much closer to socialism than even under Roosevelt.

Why is now closer than then?

The country was different.

Men worked, women gave birth to children.

America was an independent country that sold its finest products in the world to all countries in the world.

In those days, no one would have thought that European Japanese Korean cars could appear on the roads of America.

And now Cadillac is made in China ...

Your knowledge of history is flawed. If the US and the British Commonwealth had not aided the USSR in WW2, we would all be studying Mein Kampf in the original German in school. I suggest you obtain legal advice on suing your history prof for incompetence.
I agree Stalin was the most evil man to ever govern a world power.

My grandfather (mothers dad) absolutely loathed FDR.   I have several copies of poems he composed critical of FDR,  the New Deal, and communism in general.

He died in 1972

Quote from: Dayton3 on January 03, 2021, 12:31:51 PM
My grandfather (mothers dad) absolutely loathed FDR.   I have several copies of poems he composed critical of FDR,  the New Deal, and communism in general.

He died in 1972

And obviously you gleaned none of his knowledge.

Quote from: Solar on January 03, 2021, 12:56:27 PM
And obviously you gleaned none of his knowledge.

Well he died when I was five years old.    What I remember most is that my sisters and I went with my parents to visit him every Sunday and he gave us Fig Newtons.

I learned about his political inclinations only after he died.

Quote from: Dayton3 on January 03, 2021, 03:00:48 PM
Well he died when I was five years old.    What I remember most is that my sisters and I went with my parents to visit him every Sunday and he gave us Fig Newtons.

I learned about his political inclinations only after he died.

That's too bad. My grand dad died in 1969, he was a wealth of knowledge, he died too young at 95.

The evil POS did a lot of damage to our Republic.....

Quote from: Tory Potter on January 03, 2021, 12:27:42 PM
Your knowledge of history is flawed. If the US and the British Commonwealth had not aided the USSR in WW2, we would all be studying Mein Kampf in the original German in school. I suggest you obtain legal advice on suing your history prof for incompetence.
I agree Stalin was the most evil man to ever govern a world power.

Probably, your knowledge of history is fuller and more correct than mine. But unfortunately, you didn't take the trouble to understand them.

Well, at the same time, read my message.

After all, I never wrote or said that Roosevelt was not supposed to help Stalin fight Nazism.

But I wrote that when Hitler and Stalin attacked Poland and the British Commonwealth declared war on Germany, President Roosevelt did not react to this event in any way.

But in 1939, Hitler had three thousand lightly armored tankettes and USA could destroy Nazi Germany with one left hand.

Quote from: Solar on January 03, 2021, 03:34:24 PM
That's too bad. My grand dad died in 1969, he was a wealth of knowledge, he died too young at 95.

Both of my grandfathers died in the war in 1941.

So I learned the story from books.

It is interesting that in the 60s, when I was in school, Soviet history textbooks did not say anything at all about the coalition of states that defeated Hitler.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on January 03, 2021, 06:15:12 PM
Both of my grandfathers died in the war in 1941.

So I learned the story from books.

It is interesting that in the 60s, when I was in school, Soviet history textbooks did not say anything at all about the coalition of states that defeated Hitler.

It's even worse here, now. Kids aren't learning anything about world history, other than the US is bad, enemies good...

And, from 1939 after the partition of Poland, to 1941, when the war between the USSR and Germany began, the Stalinist army occupied Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Moldova and began a war against Finland, in which it actually did not achieve success, although part of Finland was bitten off.

No reaction from the White House.

Quote from: Solar on January 03, 2021, 06:21:27 PM
It's even worse here, now. Kids aren't learning anything about world history, other than the US is bad, enemies good...

My granddaughter, born in the USA, is currently finishing school (12 grade). A good school on the 50s of Manhattan.

Not only do the students of this school have knowledge, I have  the impression that their textbooks are so composed to understand all the opposite.