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Title: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: ammodotcom on December 18, 2020, 11:21:27 AM
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"We waged a war on poverty and poverty won."
– President Ronald Reagan, 1988 State of the Union Address

The dust has settled and the evidence is in: The 1960s Great Society and War on Poverty programs of President Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ) have been a colossal and giant failure. One might make the argument that social welfare programs are the moral path for a modern government. They cannot, however, make the argument that these are in any way effective at alleviating poverty.

In fact, there is evidence that such aggressive programs might make generational poverty worse. While the notion of a "culture of dependence" is a bit of a cliché in conservative circles, there is evidence that this is indeed the case – that, consciously or not, the welfare state creates a culture where people receive benefits rather than seeking gainful employment or business ownership.

This is not a moral or even a value judgment against the people engaged in such a culture. Again, the claim is not that people "choose to be on welfare," but simply that social welfare programs incentivize poverty, which has an impact on communities that has nothing to do with individual intent.

We are now over 50 years into the development of the Great Society and the War on Poverty. It is time to take stock in these programs from an objective and evidence-based perspective. When one does that, it is not only clear that the programs have been a failure, but also that they have disproportionately impacted the black community in the United States. The current state of dysfunction in the black community (astronomically high crime rates, very low rates of home ownership and single motherhood as the norm) are not the natural state of the black community in the United States, but closely tied to the role that social welfare programs play. Or as Dr. Thomas Sowell stated:

"If we wanted to be serious about evidence, we might compare where blacks stood a hundred years after the end of slavery with where they stood after 30 years of the liberal welfare state. In other words, we could compare hard evidence on "the legacy of slavery" with hard evidence on the legacy of liberals."

Here's a peek into how black America has been a victim of LBJ's Great Society and War on Poverty.

Continue reading Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black Communities (https://ammo.com/articles/lbj-great-society-war-on-poverty-welfare-state-helped-ruin-black-communities#terms) at Ammo.com (https://ammo.com/).
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: supsalemgr on December 18, 2020, 12:10:01 PM
I'm not sure it was "inadvertent".
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: ModelCitizen on December 18, 2020, 12:14:18 PM
good post, ammo.

I've actually had a book on my shelf regarding LBJ and The Great Society that I've been meaning to read for months, now.

There are many points that I'd like to make, but I'll do that in one long post in the future.
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Solar on December 18, 2020, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on December 18, 2020, 12:10:01 PM
I'm not sure it was "inadvertent".
Yeah, "inadvertent" is an outright Lie! This was the plan from the start. LBJ: "I'll have those niggers voting Dim for life"!
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Owebo on December 18, 2020, 12:24:52 PM
LBJ is in the top 5 worst Presidents ever.....
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Possum on December 19, 2020, 03:26:28 AM
Quote from: Owebo on December 18, 2020, 12:24:52 PM
LBJ is in the top 5 worst Presidents ever.....
I place him at the top one. Every Texan needs to have on their bucket list to go piss on his grave.
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Possum on December 19, 2020, 03:27:31 AM
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 18, 2020, 12:14:18 PM
good post, ammo.

I've actually had a book on my shelf regarding LBJ and The Great Society that I've been meaning to read for months, now.

There are many points that I'd like to make, but I'll do that in one long post in the future.
Going to list all the liberal talking points uh?
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Solar on December 19, 2020, 06:30:40 AM
Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2020, 03:26:28 AM
I place him at the top one. Every Texan needs to have on their bucket list to go piss on his grave.
Hear Here!!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Owebo on December 19, 2020, 06:38:00 AM
Quote from: Possum on December 19, 2020, 03:26:28 AM
I place him at the top one. Every Texan needs to have on their bucket list to go piss on his grave.

Obama, FDR, Carter, Wilson, LBJ......not necessarily in any order.....

As inventor of the modern plantation, LBJ sent many blacks back to pre-Lincoln times...he is a plain evil motherfucker....
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Possum on December 19, 2020, 06:45:35 AM
Quote from: Owebo on December 19, 2020, 06:38:00 AM
Obama, FDR, Carter, .Wilson, LBJ.....not necessarily in any order.....

As inventor of the modern plantation, LBJ sent many blacks back to pre-Lincoln times...he is a plain evil motherfucker....
Nailed the top five. Might could argue clinton for carter. Maybe. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: ammodotcom on December 20, 2020, 10:15:42 PM
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 18, 2020, 12:14:18 PM
good post, ammo.

I've actually had a book on my shelf regarding LBJ and The Great Society that I've been meaning to read for months, now.

There are many points that I'd like to make, but I'll do that in one long post in the future.

I hope to come across that post! LBJ is still lionized among a lot of Dems (the ones who can remember his administration, at least) and it always baffled me why.
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Possum on December 21, 2020, 04:34:29 AM
Quote from: ammodotcom on December 20, 2020, 10:15:42 PM
I hope to come across that post! LBJ is still lionized among a lot of Dems (the ones who can remember his administration, at least) and it always baffled me why.
Most liberals are raciest. That should help explain.
Title: Re: Black America Before LBJ: How the Welfare State Inadvertently Helped Ruin Black
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on January 03, 2021, 06:39:49 PM
The remarkable economist and writer Thomas Sowell wrote in one of his books that the most downtrodden and stupid segments of the population at the beginning of the 20th century were Jews and Poles, emigrants from the Russian Empire.

But in those days there was no Wealfer and no social programs.

Now Jews and Poles are one of the wealthiest strata of American society.