'This is no accident, no coincidence, because the making of black and white was the making of the world we know now.'
The hard question for me is how and why white people allow themselves to be so obsessed with race to the point it can be used to manipulate them, control them, keep them unaware? Full disclosure. DNA says I am east and west European, northern areas, with a bit of Scot Wales and Irish thrown in. Jeez and I thought I was American. Maybe in a thousand years we'll have American DNA. Race is a recent trait in the long history of evolution. But humans make distinctions based on anything and the anythings control them.
It turns out white people are their own worst enemy. Harsh statement, I don't think so for as they gleefully cheer Trump's often racist remarks the rich grow in power and control. You doubt? Consider his only accomplishments, more money for the wealthy, himself included, less regulation for the corporations, and judges who side with both. See any 'great' healthcare or 'cheap medicine? Meanwhile many of the working class cheer and relish a vote to put another dagger in themselves.
Trump rallies are the most interesting aspect of white self immolation, Trump lies, plays himself up, plays up the economy, lies some more, makes stuff up, promises greatness, they cheer, he name calls, they cheer, he points fingers. Do they see? Do they hear? He goes golfing. They get hats. Is this simply hero worship, their latest savior? The show is about him, he cares nada for them given his past history, but they play along, clapping, cheering, and laughing. They could be automatons. What a great release, a tribal dance, a show for a man who is hardly an exemplar of American values.
'There's a perception that whiteness is working for white people. It's not. Whiteness is one of the biggest and most long-running scams ever perpetrated.'
Reading assignment and quotes are from: https://medium.com/message/how-white-people-got-made-6eeb076ade42
"The great thing about the divide-and-conquer of creating white-skin privilege is that you don't have to give people thusly bought off anything more, and American power structures didn't. In places with black slavery, the whites suffered terribly." (See too Isenberg's history and Lopez's)
"There is not one gene, trait, or characteristic that distinguishes all members of one race from all members of another. We can map any number of traits and none would match our idea of race. This is because modern humans haven't been around long enough to evolve into different subspecies and we've always moved, mated, and mixed our genes. Beneath the skin, we are one of the most genetically similar of all species." https://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-01-11.htm
"In the era of Donald Trump, many lower- and middle-class white Americans are drawn to politicians who pledge to make their lives great again. But as Dying of Whiteness shows, the policies that result actually place white Americans at ever-greater risk of sickness and death.'
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40697553-dying-of-whiteness
"I imagine one of the reasons people cling to their hates so stubbornly is because they sense, once hate is gone, they will be forced to deal with pain." James A. Baldwin
Further study:
'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27209433-white-trash
'Dog Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented Racism and Wrecked the Middle Class' by Ian Haney López
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17847530-dog-whistle-politics
*****
"White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin
"And then we got down one day to the point- that was the second or third day - to talk about where they lived, and how much they were earning. And when those brothers told me what they were earning, I said, "Now, you know what? You ought to be marching with us. You're just as poor as Negroes." And I said, "You are put in the position of supporting your oppressor, because, through prejudice and blindness, you fail to see that the same forces that oppress Negroes in American society oppress poor white people. And all you are living on is the satisfaction of your skin being white, and the drum major instinct of thinking that you are somebody big because you are white. And you're so poor you can't send your children to school. You ought to be out here marching with every one of us every time we have a march....Now that's a fact. That the poor white has been put into this position, where through blindness and prejudice, he is forced to support his oppressors. And the only thing he has going for him is the false feeling that he's superior because his skin is white—and can't hardly eat and make his ends meet week in and week out." Martin Luther King
http://www.stirjournal.com/2016/04/01/i-know-why-poor-whites-chant-trump-trump-trump/
"Historian Phillips-Fein traces the hidden history of the Reagan revolution to a coterie of business executives, including General Electric official and Reagan mentor Lemuel Boulware, who saw labor unions, government regulation, high taxes and welfare spending as dire threats to their profits and power. From the 1930s onward, the author argues, they provided the money, organization and fervor for a decades-long war against New Deal liberalism—funding campaigns, think tanks, magazines and lobbying groups, and indoctrinating employees in the virtues of unfettered capitalism." https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2751831-invisible-hands
Quote from: midcan5 on July 25, 2019, 03:19:20 AM
'This is no accident, no coincidence, because the making of black and white was the making of the world we know now.'
How fucked up is your guilt ridden world, that you see everything through the prism of race and color?
Politics on the right is not, and never has been about color, the left has always been about race, slavery. But what I find interesting is how libs seem to have a genetic connection to the theme of, race, hate and guilt, all in one package. The left always blames the Right for the very things they're guilty of.
You see, Conservatives do not see race, we see oppressive govt programs stealing from one to support the cause of another, never to help, rather to oppress one side, creating division and another victim.
Even our Constitution spells it out in equality, but the left needed victims and the GOP has always been a party full of cowards who don't give a shit about the Constitution so they never fought back, in turn, giving us the govt we have today.
I'm telling to right now, open your Fuckin eyes and stop projecting your racist shit on the Right, it just isn't there! If you really want to know why Trump won, look at all the racist rules and regs he is undoing, the govt oppression created by the left. Trump is returning Freedoms to the people we haven't seen in decades by gutting crap like the EPA.
But your idea that somehow any of this has to do with racism, exposes just how truly stupid you really are, and no amount of reading can ever raise your intellect above the temperature of a farmhouse root cellar.
Come on, do you really believe open borders is good for the Nation? Ya know what's really sad though? To see someone so articulate, yet not smart enough to see what foolish pawns they've been in all of this.
The dog whistle is on the left, they blow the race whistle and there you are, throwing out all possible critical thought, reducing oneself to that of a drooling Pavlov pet for another bone while regurgitating all the leftist talking points..
How is it the left was able to program you into not thinking for yourself? You truly have exposed yourself for the "Tool" you are.
Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2019, 06:26:21 AM
How fucked up is your guilt ridden world, that you see everything through the prism of race and color?
Politics on the right is not, and never has been about color, the left has always been about race, slavery. But what I find interesting is how libs seem to have a genetic connection to the theme of, race, hate and guilt, all in one package. The left always blames the Right for the very things they're guilty of.
You see, Conservatives do not see race, we see oppressive govt programs stealing from one to support the cause of another, never to help, rather to oppress one side, creating division and another victim.
Even our Constitution spells it out in equality, but the left needed victims and the GOP has always been a party full of cowards who don't give a shit about the Constitution so they never fought back, in turn, giving us the govt we have today.
I'm telling to right now, open your Fuckin eyes and stop projecting your racist shit on the Right, it just isn't there! If you really want to know why Trump won, look at all the racist rules and regs he is undoing, the govt oppression created by the left. Trump is returning Freedoms to the people we haven't seen in decades by gutting crap like the EPA.
But your idea that somehow any of this has to do with racism, exposes just how truly stupid you really are, and no amount of reading can ever raise your intellect above the temperature of a farmhouse root cellar.
Come on, do you really believe open borders is good for the Nation? Ya know what's really sad though? To see someone so articulate, yet not smart enough to see what foolish pawns they've been in all of this.
The dog whistle is on the left, they blow the race whistle and there you are, throwing out all possible critical thought, reducing oneself to that of a drooling Pavlov pet for another bone while regurgitating all the leftist talking points..
How is it the left was able to program you into not thinking for yourself? You truly have exposed yourself for the "Tool" you are.
Thanks for responding to his nonsense. I started to, but decided not to get in the way of his misery.
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 25, 2019, 07:27:50 AM
Thanks for responding to his nonsense. I started to, but decided not to get in the way of his misery.
Yeah, I couldn't let his hate and bigotry go unchallenged.
I originally thought he was quoting someone, but then in the mangled mishmash of racist ideas, it became apparent he was actually advocating racist ideals and impressing them upon the Right.
Problem is, he is too blind to see the simple fact, Conservatives don't see race, we see shared ideals of Patriotism in a love of country with Liberty and Freedom and small govt.
While fools like this guy can't see past their own hate and bigotry enough to understand exactly who we are.
I'm always amazed at the amount of people that cross over to the freedom of Conservative ideals, and suddenly see the light and how manipulated they were once they lose the hate, a hatred this guy is full of, yet fails to see what we see.
Tough subjects that address how many Americans think and live are always met with ad hominem. The replies demonstrate that clearly. If I had turned the discussion point around, many would have agreed. Our last president and family are a case in point, and one still called out when a target is required to quell the mind of the easily led.
But the results are the same for the working class and that includes dark skinned people as well. When wealth and corporate power alone manage the policies the resentful light skinned man and woman will require someone to blame and that is oh so easy when Americans are so uneducated that many cannot pass the citizen's test. The history book in the thread OP 'White Trash' is a fascinating read for the thoughtful American. Class is something Americans have a hard time facing. I see it often as I move between.
But there are other more real consequences to the policies of the Trump administration outside of the inequality of taxes and class, and the people who suffer the most are often the poor. As Trump's EPA removes regulations that keep Americans healthy, more Americans get sick and this burdens our health system. 'Strangers' is an amazing read for the readers out there who want to get a taste of reality.
Reading: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land
See also another YouTube, this is what happens to working class Americans when regulations are removed. 'Reserve, Louisiana: inside the town where cancer haunts the streets'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63j4dUS5Ppc
Quote from: midcan5 on July 27, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Tough subjects that address how many Americans think and live are always met with ad hominem.
Instead, you attack through permutation and moving the goal post.
I suggest you respond to my earlier post and quit avoiding the issue.
Quote from: midcan5 on July 27, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Tough subjects that address how many Americans think and live are always met with ad hominem. The replies demonstrate that clearly. If I had turned the discussion point around, many would have agreed. Our last president and family are a case in point, and one still called out when a target is required to quell the mind of the easily led.
But the results are the same for the working class and that includes dark skinned people as well. When wealth and corporate power alone manage the policies the resentful light skinned man and woman will require someone to blame and that is oh so easy when Americans are so uneducated that many cannot pass the citizen's test. The history book in the thread OP 'White Trash' is a fascinating read for the thoughtful American. Class is something Americans have a hard time facing. I see it often as I move between.
But there are other more real consequences to the policies of the Trump administration outside of the inequality of taxes and class, and the people who suffer the most are often the poor. As Trump's EPA removes regulations that keep Americans healthy, more Americans get sick and this burdens our health system. 'Strangers' is an amazing read for the readers out there who want to get a taste of reality.
Reading: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land
See also another YouTube, this is what happens to working class Americans when regulations are removed. 'Reserve, Louisiana: inside the town where cancer haunts the streets'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63j4dUS5Ppc
"When wealth and corporate power alone manage the policies the resentful light skinned man and woman will require someone to blame and that is oh so easy when Americans are so uneducated that many cannot pass the citizen's test."
Thank you for pointing out the failure of our government school system since leftists have captured control of it.
Quote from: midcan5 on July 27, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Tough subjects that address how many Americans think and live are always met with ad hominem. The replies demonstrate that clearly. If I had turned the discussion point around, many would have agreed. Our last president and family are a case in point, and one still called out when a target is required to quell the mind of the easily led.
But the results are the same for the working class and that includes dark skinned people as well. When wealth and corporate power alone manage the policies the resentful light skinned man and woman will require someone to blame and that is oh so easy when Americans are so uneducated that many cannot pass the citizen's test. The history book in the thread OP 'White Trash' is a fascinating read for the thoughtful American. Class is something Americans have a hard time facing. I see it often as I move between.
But there are other more real consequences to the policies of the Trump administration outside of the inequality of taxes and class, and the people who suffer the most are often the poor. As Trump's EPA removes regulations that keep Americans healthy, more Americans get sick and this burdens our health system. 'Strangers' is an amazing read for the readers out there who want to get a taste of reality.
Reading: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land
See also another YouTube, this is what happens to working class Americans when regulations are removed. 'Reserve, Louisiana: inside the town where cancer haunts the streets'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63j4dUS5Ppc
The left invented crony capitalism as a way to get rich and at the same time be able to point and say, "see capitalism doesn't work" to the gullible sheep such as yourself. Your falling prey to leftist wolves in academics clothing, using flowery language and long paragraphs to sway your mind that they are actually saying something intelligent. And you are falling for it hook line and sinker.
If you not on an anti depressant I would reccomend you start one soon because the next 6 years are gonna only get worse and worse for you unless you wake up.
Quote from: Solar on July 27, 2019, 12:30:14 PM
Instead, you attack through permutation and moving the goal post.
I suggest you respond to my earlier post and quit avoiding the issue.
My guess is that he wont and you'll end up having to give him another timeout...kids will be kids
Quote from: T Hunt on July 29, 2019, 06:23:58 AM
The left invented crony capitalism as a way to get rich and at the same time be able to point and say, "see capitalism doesn't work" to the gullible sheep such as yourself. Your falling prey to leftist wolves in academics clothing, using flowery language and long paragraphs to sway your mind that they are actually saying something intelligent. And you are falling for it hook line and sinker.
If you not on an anti depressant I would reccomend you start one soon because the next 6 years are gonna only get worse and worse for you unless you wake up.
Couldn't agree more. I wonder what will be his "Chamberlain" moment, when he realizes the truth?
Midcan5 Q in 2024
Quote from: midcan5 on July 27, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Tough subjects that address how many Americans think and live are always met with ad hominem. The replies demonstrate that clearly. If I had turned the discussion point around, many would have agreed. Our last president and family are a case in point, and one still called out when a target is required to quell the mind of the easily led.
But the results are the same for the working class and that includes dark skinned people as well. When wealth and corporate power alone manage the policies the resentful light skinned man and woman will require someone to blame and that is oh so easy when Americans are so uneducated that many cannot pass the citizen's test. The history book in the thread OP 'White Trash' is a fascinating read for the thoughtful American. Class is something Americans have a hard time facing. I see it often as I move between.
But there are other more real consequences to the policies of the Trump administration outside of the inequality of taxes and class, and the people who suffer the most are often the poor. As Trump's EPA removes regulations that keep Americans healthy, more Americans get sick and this burdens our health system. 'Strangers' is an amazing read for the readers out there who want to get a taste of reality.
Reading: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28695425-strangers-in-their-own-land
See also another YouTube, this is what happens to working class Americans when regulations are removed. 'Reserve, Louisiana: inside the town where cancer haunts the streets'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63j4dUS5Ppc
How about you address my first response and quit hiding!
What kind of garbage is trashcan dumping now?
what's an Asian doctor doin' in the hills of West byGod Virginia?
Who ran off white male doctors and why?
Does your doctor sit around in the exam room with you banging away on the computer before he even looks at you? yeah. That's cause he's providing info to the federal government, the insurance company and whoever the hell they're providing it to and God only knows WHO else.
Your doctor is on the side of the government controlled by leftist unappointed anonymous globalists. So is your insurance company....on the side of the one with the most cash or will protect them for as long as possible....for the cash.
Remember that hateful nurse that was rude to your mom? remember the one that was slow to bring your mother's pain killer as your mother lay dying? how about the cavalier attitude of the nurses and staff at the nursing home 'caring' for your loved one.
Remember the doctor who got his nose out of joint and was unsympathetic to your child's pain?
How about those that call themselves doctors and nurses who provided essential abortion services killing those babies while wearing masks and whipping you into line because you wouldn't wear yours because of the infected chil'ren?
the pervert doctor who abused your daughter/wife/mother while she was under anesthesia. The one that screwd up that operation that your parent/spouse/child needed.
The Muslima doctor who misprescribed meds for your jewish parents because she considers jews pigs?
and on. and on. and on. and on. and on.
and little things like videotaping medical staff's cute little dances and skits while their elderly patients are dying from covid.
and hospital and nursing home staff that would not give your grandparents hcq or anything other med that might have potentially saved them....
and you want me/us to honor our nurses and doctors who have denied patients these life saving meds but rather placed them on intubation/ventilators and sedation to ease their lives while their patients were quietly passing?
sure thing.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 23, 2020, 05:05:01 PM
what's an Asian doctor doin' in the hills of West byGod Virginia?
Who ran off white male doctors and why?
Does your doctor sit around in the exam room with you banging away on the computer before he even looks at you? yeah. That's cause he's providing info to the federal government, the insurance company and whoever the hell they're providing it to and God only knows WHO else.
Your doctor is on the side of the government controlled by leftist unappointed anonymous globalists. So is your insurance company....on the side of the one with the most cash or will protect them for as long as possible....for the cash.
Remember that hateful nurse that was rude to your mom? remember the one that was slow to bring your mother's pain killer as your mother lay dying? how about the cavalier attitude of the nurses and staff at the nursing home 'caring' for your loved one.
Remember the doctor who got his nose out of joint and was unsympathetic to your child's pain?
How about those that call themselves doctors and nurses who provided essential abortion services killing those babies while wearing masks and whipping you into line because you wouldn't wear yours because of the infected chil'ren?
the pervert doctor who abused your daughter/wife/mother while she was under anesthesia. The one that screwd up that operation that your parent/spouse/child needed.
The Muslima doctor who misprescribed meds for your jewish parents because she considers jews pigs?
and on. and on. and on. and on. and on.
and little things like videotaping medical staff's cute little dances and skits while their elderly patients are dying from covid.
and hospital and nursing home staff that would not give your grandparents hcq or anything other med that might have potentially saved them....
and you want me/us to honor our nurses and doctors who have denied patients these life saving meds but rather placed them on intubation/ventilators and sedation to ease their lives while their patients were quietly passing?
sure thing.
Hmm... Like police officers their not all bad.
Quote from: walkstall on May 23, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
Hmm... Like police officers their not all bad.
uh huh...but you don't know till you run into one.
Just thinkin' out loud. probably should have put that in the covid rant topic.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 23, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
uh huh...but you don't know till you run into one.
Just thinkin' out loud. probably should have put that in the covid rant topic.
Not a problem, I move from the big city back out into farm land 5 hrs. away from the big cities. I have had some Asian doctor that have put big city doctors to shame.
Quote from: walkstall on May 23, 2020, 05:46:04 PM
Not a problem, I move from the big city back out into farm land 5 hrs. away from the big cities. I have had some Asian doctor that have put big city doctors to shame.
I had a Nigerian doctor save my life, and my VA doc is Vietnamese, I like him fine. I haven't had a lot of doctors in my time, I try and avoid them. :biggrin:
I used to have a Mexican lady cut my hair.
:confused:
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1262510843788357632
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 25, 2019, 07:27:50 AM
Thanks for responding to his nonsense. I started to, but decided not to get in the way of his misery.
Priceless! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: walkstall on May 23, 2020, 05:46:04 PM
Not a problem, I move from the big city back out into farm land 5 hrs. away from the big cities. I have had some Asian doctor that have put big city doctors to shame.
Maybe. There is a huge culture difference in Asians and us. However...the question is...why run white male doctors out of business in favor of foreign doctors.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on May 24, 2020, 08:45:33 AM
Maybe. There is a huge culture difference in Asians and us. However...the question is...why run white male doctors out of business in favor of foreign doctors.
The question should be why do white male doctors not work in small town and rural areas. Like foreign doctors do.
Egads, not sure how this thread came back with another name but interesting. I've be called trashcan often, kinda funny. Racism is so prevalent in America it kinda boggles the mind. Pres Obama and his beautiful wife were constantly categorized in negative images. Children love making fun of others I guess it builds them up in some way. For the readers, check out James Baldwin sometime. Have a great day. Trash
"White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin
"...One did not have to be very bright to realize how little one could do to change one's situation; one did not have to be abnormally sensitive to be worn down to a cutting edge by the incessant and gratuitous humiliation and danger one encountered every working day, all day long. The humiliation did not apply merely to working days, or workers; I was thirteen and was crossing Fifth Avenue on my way to the Forty-second Street library, and the cop in the middle of the street muttered as I passed him, "Why don't you niggers stay uptown where you belong?" When I was ten, and didn't look, certainly, any older, two policemen amused themselves with me by frisking me, making comic (and terrifying) speculations concerning my ancestry and probable sexual prowess, and, for good measure, leaving me flat on my back in one of Harlem's empty lots. Just before and then during the Second World War, many of my friends fled into the service, all to be changed there, and rarely for the better, many to be ruined, and many to die. Others fled to other states and cities—that is, to other ghettos. Some went on wine or whiskey or the needle, and are still on it. And others, like me, fled into the church." James Baldwin
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1962/11/17/letter-from-a-region-in-my-mind
Quote from: midcan5 on June 01, 2020, 04:44:36 AM
Egads, not sure how this thread came back with another name but interesting. I've be called trashcan often, kinda funny. Racism is so prevalent in America it kinda boggles the mind. Pres Obama and his beautiful wife were constantly categorized in negative images. Children love making fun of others I guess it builds them up in some way. For the readers, check out James Baldwin sometime. Have a great day. Trash
"White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin
"...One did not have to be very bright to realize how little one could do to change one's situation; one did not have to be abnormally sensitive to be worn down to a cutting edge by the incessant and gratuitous humiliation and danger one encountered every working day, all day long. The humiliation did not apply merely to working days, or workers; I was thirteen and was crossing Fifth Avenue on my way to the Forty-second Street library, and the cop in the middle of the street muttered as I passed him, "Why don't you niggers stay uptown where you belong?" When I was ten, and didn't look, certainly, any older, two policemen amused themselves with me by frisking me, making comic (and terrifying) speculations concerning my ancestry and probable sexual prowess, and, for good measure, leaving me flat on my back in one of Harlem's empty lots. Just before and then during the Second World War, many of my friends fled into the service, all to be changed there, and rarely for the better, many to be ruined, and many to die. Others fled to other states and cities—that is, to other ghettos. Some went on wine or whiskey or the needle, and are still on it. And others, like me, fled into the church." James Baldwin
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1962/11/17/letter-from-a-region-in-my-mind
You are one thick headed troll. Do you not realize where this so called racism begins? The left, it has always been rooted in the left, they foment race to keep blacks on their plantation, they created the KKK, and nothing has changed!
Robert Byrd a grand Dragon, elected to office in the Dim party, Biden, a known racist, elected to office. The left is all about divide and conquer, be it brown skin or their latest victim group, gays.
They've now been merged with every known mental derangement known to humanity as the LGBTPQ who have you being given "Special Rights", while the Right is full of just regular Americans wanting to live their lives in peace.
Why does the left find it necessary to block opposing views on social media?
Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2020, 05:05:32 AM
You are one thick headed troll. Do you not realize where this so called racism begins? The left, it has always been rooted in the left, they foment race to keep blacks on their plantation, they created the KKK, and nothing has changed!
Robert Byrd a grand Dragon, elected to office in the Dim party, Biden, a known racist, elected to office. The left is all about divide and conquer, be it brown skin or their latest victim group, gays.
They've now been merged with every known mental derangement known to humanity as the LGBTPQ who have you being given "Special Rights", while the Right is full of just regular Americans wanting to live their lives in peace.
Why does the left find it necessary to block opposing views on social media?
He probably believes George Wallace was a republican.
Quote from: walkstall on May 24, 2020, 09:04:03 AM
The question should be why do white male doctors not work in small town and rural areas. Like foreign doctors do.
because they are over regulated by government and their fellow (foreign and female) doctors (using the term loosely) get preferential treatment...and they're controlled easier by the local state and fed government.
Ask them. I did.
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 01, 2020, 05:44:56 AM
He probably believes George Wallace was a republican.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Solar, et al, check out the book I mentioned in another thread today, I'll link it again below. It covers this topic well and is an excellent history. I never knew they had so many pejorative names for us. I'm kinda joking but our family grew up poor white trash but didn't know it. Poor was poor, but dad was the usual racist and mom wanted to be the saint.
'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg
"Poor whites are still taught to hate—but not to hate those who are keeping them in line. Lyndon Johnson knew this when he quipped, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Quote from: midcan5 on June 08, 2020, 08:32:28 AM
Solar, et al, check out the book I mentioned in another thread today, I'll link it again below. It covers this topic well and is an excellent history. I never knew they had so many pejorative names for us. I'm kinda joking but our family grew up poor white trash but didn't know it. Poor was poor, but dad was the usual racist and mom wanted to be the saint.
'White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America' by Nancy Isenberg
"Poor whites are still taught to hate—but not to hate those who are keeping them in line. Lyndon Johnson knew this when he quipped, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Unlike you, I've live a broad spectrum life, relative poor in the beginning. onto to middle class standards, rich in the late middle, all the while traveling the globe experiencing life abroad.
There is no such thing as poor in this country! There is stupid and lazy, but even the most destitute can eat and live essentially rent free. It is up to the individual to take advantage of the Freedoms and liberties this great nation has to offer.
Now think about that for a moment, what would be the infringements placed on an individual wanting to create his own income? The answer is Govt regulations, licenses, insurance/bonds, inspectors, and a litany of other agencies involved.
Point being? I don't need to read other peoples opinions to form my own, I go straight to the facts, I look at history for my proof of whether an idea is good or bad, and unlike the left, I don't see any need to force change on a society that always finds an equilibrium of balance.
Case in point. You like to read, want to learn something new?
An Inverse? Traditionally in Washington, Fridays are a slow news day and during June reporters,
and others, would be leaving early for the beach or for other activities. During the Obama
Administration, regulatory agencies often would announce expanded regulations on Fridays
giving time over the weekend to assess the response.
On Thursday, June 4, the White House pulled an inverse. It issued an executive order limiting the
regulatory steps and the time frame an agency may take in evaluating a major infrastructure
development proposal. The given justification is the economic crisis created by the COVID-19
virus and the reaction of governments to it.
The primary vehicle for these reductions in regulations is the emergency authority built into the
National Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (NEPA). NEPA has long been used to stop or delay
infrastructure improvements. For example, after Hurricane Betsy flooded New Orleans in 1965
with a storm surge through Lake Pontchartrain, the Corps of Engineers planned to build a
movable gate barrier system along Interstate 10, to prevent such flooding in the future. The
system is used to protect the Dutch from flooding from storm surges in the North Sea.
Using NEPA, environmental groups, such as Save Our Wetlands, Inc., successfully stopped the
Corps of Engineers. On December 30, 1977, in Save Our Wetlands, Inc. vs. Early J Rush III
(Corps of Engineers), Federal Judge Charles Schwartz, Jr. ruled "it is the opinion of the Court
that plaintiffs herein have demonstrated that they, and in fact all persons in this area, will be
irreparably harmed if the barrier project . . . is allowed to continue." (Boldface added).
An appeal failed. After Hurricane Katrina killed about 1200 people in New Orleans in 2005 with a
storm surge through Lake Pontchartrain, the environmental groups dropped any reference to their
prior success in litigation.
When NEPA is used to delay infrastructure projects, the process can take 4 to 5 years, sometimes
over a decade. Contrary to what environmental groups may claim, the executive order does not
eliminate the need for such projects to comply with the requirements of the Clean Air Act, Clean
Water Act, and other applicable environmental statutes.
The administration has been active in providing regulatory relief since it took office. This is one
reason why in December 2019 the US unemployment rate was 3.5%, the lowest since the 1960s.
Other recent examples of regulatory relief included the following: on May 19, the White House
issued an executive order "Regulatory Relief to Support Economic Recovery" requesting federal
agencies to suggest regulations that need to be revised or repealed in order to reinvigorate the
economy. On June 1, the EPA issued a final rule limiting the ability of states to use the Clean
Water Act to block fossil fuel energy projects.
Examples of abuses of the Clean Water Act are the State of Washington blocking the development
of a coal export facility on the Columbia River and the State of New York using it to block the
development of a natural gas pipeline to serve New England. The latter appears to be a clear
violation of the Interstate Commerce clause in the Constitution.
Ironically, on June 3 House Democrats proposed a $500-billion-dollar green transportation
infrastructure bill to stimulate the economy. One is reminded that the $800 billion American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 contained a major infrastructure component promising
"shovel ready" jobs. Later, when pressed about the "shovel ready" jobs, President Obama had to
admit they were not quite "shovel ready." They were tied up in the lengthy approval processes
needed. Thus, one is prompted to ask how many of those supporting the new transportation
infrastructure bill will support the new executive order streamlining approvals of infrastructure
development? See links under Change in US Administrations
http://www.sepp.org/twtwfiles/2020/TWTW%206-6-20%20pdf.pdf
Quote from: midcan5 on June 08, 2020, 08:32:28 AM
"Poor whites are still taught to hate—but not to hate those who are keeping them in line. Lyndon Johnson knew this when he quipped, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Lyndon Johnson was a tool. Your not improving your argument with any quotes from him.