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Title: You Make The Rules
Post by: admin on October 01, 2010, 06:31:36 PM
I want to know what you as the members want as rules.
There will be some very basic rules, that is a given, like yelling Fire, where there is none. ::)

But I'd like you, the members, since it really is your forum, to decide what you consider acceptable, and what you do not.
We will hold a vote on any suggestions you may have.
Or we could have a forum without rules, if you prefer that.

We will have some guidelines that we want followed, but beyond that, it's up to you.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 01, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Friday night philosophy, eh?  ;)

You've said elsewhere you don't want racist links, due to the type of people who'd be drawn here. I agree. It's tough enough wading into partisan issues without also having to combat the lie that all conservatives are racist for their near-unanimous opposition to the Obama Trauma.

Also elsewhere, we saw ourselves conforming to general rules of behavior that didn't need to get said explicitly, aside from the now-standard wording in the old YaBB (now SimpleMachines) user agreement. It isn't literature but it does cover the basics. Common decency and self-policing seemed to work just fine.

That said, this page deserves immediate attention, adding that basic text back into the very page a newbie would see, upon signing up....

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/index.php?action=help;area=registration_screen (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/index.php?action=help;area=registration_screen)

I'd tell you where to find the YaBB version left over when Terms of Service were boiler-plate for YaBB, but you can guess where I mean. Oddly, I can't find any example of it at the SimpleMachines site, in their FAQ or through data searching "terms of service".

http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?topic=1419 (http://docs.simplemachines.org/index.php?topic=1419)

Profanity? Sure seems that's a liberal's stunt. Phony ex-Marine crybabies, and the like. Yes, I've seen conservatives here go to white-hot-anger in 1.6 nanoseconds. That too was elsewhere. I'm not sure this early in "the game" that we'd see that level of idiot come here and actually spark that same white-hot angry reply. It still wouldn't hurt to mention it's generally low-class and fit only for liberals and other trolls.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 07:06:27 PM
All well said quiller, you actually get it.
I really don't want to impose rules, in fact, I've only filtered one word, and hope I don't need to add to the list.
The word I have censored is "cunt", I see no need for it's use.

I think the self policing idea can work quite well, we all tend to act like adults and don't say anything we wouldn't say in mixed company anyway.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: BILLY Defiant on October 01, 2010, 07:54:47 PM
Screaming meltdowns aimed at another poster will not be tolerated.


Billy
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on October 01, 2010, 07:54:47 PM
Screaming meltdowns aimed at another poster will not be tolerated.


Billy
This is where self policing should take effect, everyone should intervene when a Con or Lib are out of control.
Tell them to take a break, if it needs further attention, we can institute a time out.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 08:49:08 PM
Can we limit kwiller to one post a day?
Only if you can switch back to being straight .
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 08:53:44 PM
Only if you can switch back to being straight .

Or at least back to humans...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
Or at least back to humans...
Somethings simply aren't possible. ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:01:04 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Somethings simply aren't possible. ;D

Maybe we can get his wife to wear a lot of fur?
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:01:04 PM
Maybe we can get his wife to wear a lot of fur?
Oh Oh Oh...I could say something, but I like Beau too much to insult his wife.

After all, isn't it bad enough she had to marry him?
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:08:12 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 09:05:17 PM
Oh Oh Oh...I could say something, but I like Beau too much to insult his wife.

After all, isn't it bad enough she had to marry him?

He really is married???

JK...  I like Beau too...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:08:12 PM
He really is married???

JK...  I like Beau too...
So he claims...

Beau Jr, you put mommy back in the closet, right now, young man!!!
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Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:19:20 PM

That almost approaches child pornography, not that I'm an authority. 

You might want to check with taxed.

I concur.  They should certainly check with your wife...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 09:33:05 PM
1) Post Quality. If a poster simply makes dumb remarks aimed to evoke a reaction, they need to go. They offer nothing. Especially if those posts are predominantly aimed at posters.

2) Back up what you say.  Anyone can make claims. The object in a debate is to back up those claims. Back it up or the post gets deleted. Continue and the poster gets booted.

3) No bigotry

I call these the "Walter and Gigglefarts Charter"...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 09:38:08 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
This is your only warning, taxed.  Leave my wife and family out of forum discussions.

As to us making the rules, I don't think Solar's picture is appropriate.
It does border on child pornography, at least to me.  Do with that as you wish.

Family should be off limits but Bama, you are simply getting what you have been asking for since you got here. Every one of your posts has been to bait people...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
This is your only warning, taxed.  Leave my wife and family out of forum discussions.

As to us making the rules, I don't think Solar's picture is appropriate.
It does border on child pornography, at least to me.  Do with that as you wish.
Context, it's all about context.
But please explain how a child fully clothed is child porn.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:35:40 PM
This is your only warning, taxed.  Leave my wife and family out of forum discussions.

As to us making the rules, I don't think Solar's picture is appropriate.
It does border on child pornography, at least to me.  Do with that as you wish.

Bama, why the hostility?  Your wife is a good lady!

In fact, I'm gonna blow her up right now...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:42:54 PM
Bama, why the hostility?  Your wife is a good lady!

In fact, I'm gonna blow her up right now...

Now Taxed....play nice.... :) :) 
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:45:15 PM
Now Taxed....play nice.... :) :)

haha, sorry... can't help myself sometimes...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:48:06 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:45:51 PM
haha, sorry... can't help myself sometimes...

Thanks...I didn't want to have to get out the wooden spoon on ya..... :) :) :)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
Kinky....
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:51:15 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
I'll respond to this one post, Bert, to say this . . . if you don't like me or what I say, attack me.
I will extend to you and others that same courtesy.  If this forum cannot accomplish at least that,
then it is not worthy or my patronage, nor I suspect, the patronage of very many others.
I might have actually regained an iota of respect for you had your post simply said "Family should
be off limits" with no ifs, ands or buts.  The rest of your post regarding my actions here or
elsewhere, true or not, has nothing to do respecting one another's wives, families or loved ones.


When did you get all sensitive?
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 09:50:06 PM
Kinky....

So you like wooden spoons...and riding crops...and handcuffs....oops - I'll stop there. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:48:06 PM
Thanks...I didn't want to have to get out the wooden spoon on ya..... :) :) :)

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Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 09:55:58 PM
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Nice - where can I get one of those... ;)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
Even more kinky...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Nice - where can I get one of those... ;)

That reminds me of this movie that I love...

Tomcat Meets Librarian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlPkUFJNJ0#)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:03:55 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 10:00:32 PM
It's not about being sensitive, man.  It's about members in a forum having enough respect
for themselves and others to understand that there have to be boundaries.  If the forum
can't establish those boundaries, then it is up to the individual members to do so.
If individuals establish those boundaries and other posters ignore or cross the line,
then people are going to leave, sometimes en masse.  Then the entire forum suffers.
You were witness to just such an event.  If that's what you want here, then sobeit.

Like I said, if you want to discuss rules, then one of the rules should be that we can argue,
insult and tease each other all we want, but we should not be dragging wives or families into it.

Don't throe stones and we won't return with bricks...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:06:13 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 10:00:32 PM
It's not about being sensitive, man.  It's about members in a forum having enough respect
for themselves and others to understand that there have to be boundaries.  If the forum
can't establish those boundaries, then it is up to the individual members to do so.
If individuals establish those boundaries and other posters ignore or cross the line,
then people are going to leave, sometimes en masse.  Then the entire forum suffers.
You were witness to just such an event.  If that's what you want here, then sobeit.

Like I said, if you want to discuss rules, then one of the rules should be that we can argue,
insult and tease each other all we want, but we should not be dragging wives or families into it.

I'm sorry I hurt you.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:00:11 PM
That reminds me of this movie that I love...

Tomcat Meets Librarian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlPkUFJNJ0#)

Risky Business???
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 10:07:34 PM
Risky Business???

"Tomcats".  You have to watch it, it is hilarious.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:09:07 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:08:17 PM
"Tomcats".  You have to watch it, it is hilarious.

The Goldie Hawn film?
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:09:07 PM
The Goldie Hawn film?

No, with Jake Busey, Jerry O'Donnel, Jamie Pressley, Elizabeth Shannon...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 01, 2010, 10:16:49 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:08:17 PM
"Tomcats".  You have to watch it, it is hilarious.

Cute....great ideas.  Thanks Taxed...Hey Solar... ::) ::)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:29:31 PM
I think the mods need to get together and agree on what will be enforced...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:30:51 PM
There's never a winner in a pissing contest.

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Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:30:51 PM
There's never a winner in a pissing contest.

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hahahahaa
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 01, 2010, 10:31:39 PM
hahahahaa
I love that pic.
I wonder if he reached the transformer? ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:29:31 PM
I think the mods need to get together and agree on what will be enforced...
We don't have any mods yet. :D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:33:25 PM
We don't have any mods yet. :D

We just need a dictator so people like Wizzer get even more paranoid...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 01, 2010, 10:42:49 PM
We just need a dictator so people like Wizzer get even more paranoid...
We could appoint ST, she swings a mean wooden spoon...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: walkstall on October 01, 2010, 10:52:35 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 01, 2010, 10:33:25 PM
We don't have any mods yet. :D

Well LOL It been a long day for you I see. 
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: crepe05 on October 02, 2010, 03:47:03 AM
I think the site is working quite well without any/many rules.  There was one word that someone used that I objected to when I responded to that person, and I think that's the word you're referring to.

Years ago on the other site where I still post (I like the people there, too), someone (a dem whom I had driven wild, I guess), called me the "c" word.  That just made me laugh because it was such a surprise.  mr crepe and I decided that just showed I won the argument.  The last time I checked, the post was still there, "c" word and all.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 02, 2010, 05:33:20 AM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 08:49:08 PM
Can we limit kwiller to one post a day?
Shut up, Ricky.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 06:50:30 AM
Quote from: crepe05 on October 02, 2010, 03:47:03 AM
I think the site is working quite well without any/many rules.  There was one word that someone used that I objected to when I responded to that person, and I think that's the word you're referring to.

Years ago on the other site where I still post (I like the people there, too), someone (a dem whom I had driven wild, I guess), called me the "c" word.  That just made me laugh because it was such a surprise.  mr crepe and I decided that just showed I won the argument.  The last time I checked, the post was still there, "c" word and all.
If you ever see the words "Vaginal Disorder" then you know someone used the c word, I filtered it's meaning. ;)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: republicans2 on October 02, 2010, 06:53:51 AM
Not so much rules but common sense and courtesy.  We actually have to police ourselves when one of us goes overboard.  If we are to hold people accountable we need to do it across the board.  If I step over the line I want my friends to get me back on track.  Sometimes we allow ourselves to be pulled down to a level where no decent man/woman should go and that certainly goes for me.  For example, if family is off limits, we shouldn't allow even the most vile liberal's family to be attacked.  That's my take anyhow.  As long as FAB doesn't come here I'm probably safe from attacking. ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:13:56 AM
Quote from: republicans2 on October 02, 2010, 06:53:51 AM
Not so much rules but common sense and courtesy.  We actually have to police ourselves when one of us goes overboard.  If we are to hold people accountable we need to do it across the board.  If I step over the line I want my friends to get me back on track.  Sometimes we allow ourselves to be pulled down to a level where no decent man/woman should go and that certainly goes for me.  For example, if family is off limits, we shouldn't allow even the most vile liberal's family to be attacked.  That's my take anyhow.  As long as FAB doesn't come here I'm probably safe from attacking. ;D
You're right R2, it's easy to get sucked in.
A good example would be what Beau did in this thread, his first post was to insult a poster.
My feelings are, if you can dish it out, expect a mouth full of your own crap back in your face.

In this case, and like many others, they come in baiting, but as soon as someone goes there, they whine foul.
If I see this happening, I will not punish the person that is necessarily melting down, but rather the ass that goaded them into it.

I hope it never comes to that...
At least this week. ;)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 02, 2010, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:13:56 AM
You're right R2, it's easy to get sucked in.
A good example would be what Beau did in this thread, his first post was to insult a poster.
My feelings are, if you can dish it out, expect a mouth full of your own crap back in your face.

In this case, and like many others, they come in baiting, but as soon as someone goes there, they whine foul.
If I see this happening, I will not punish the person that is necessarily melting down, but rather the ass that goaded them into it.

I hope it never comes to that...
At least this week. ;)

The virulent disease known as Darwinist again rises in one of his endless string of sock-puppet names and tries his low-quality snark. Bamabeatoff should know better.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:22:47 AM
Quote from: quiller on October 02, 2010, 07:17:19 AM
The virulent disease known as Darwinist again rises in one of his endless string of sock-puppet names and tries his low-quality snark. Bamabeatoff should know better.
Nope, Beau is not little ricky, I have known Beau for years, we never agree, but have fun berating each other, usually with limits.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: republicans2 on October 02, 2010, 07:24:50 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:13:56 AM
You're right R2, it's easy to get sucked in.
A good example would be what Beau did in this thread, his first post was to insult a poster.
My feelings are, if you can dish it out, expect a mouth full of your own crap back in your face.

In this case, and like many others, they come in baiting, but as soon as someone goes there, they whine foul.
If I see this happening, I will not punish the person that is necessarily melting down, but rather the ass that goaded them into it.

I hope it never comes to that...
At least this week. ;)

Each case is unique to be sure.  There will be posters here to run down the quality of the forum.  We can't allow that.  While I'm right with you with the instigator, we must remind our friends not to be pulled down to their level when the line may be about to be crossed.   I'm enjoying the forum.  Great job!!
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:33:05 AM
Quote from: republicans2 on October 02, 2010, 07:24:50 AM
Each case is unique to be sure.  There will be posters here to run down the quality of the forum.  We can't allow that.  While I'm right with you with the instigator, we must remind our friends not to be pulled down to their level when the line may be about to be crossed.   I'm enjoying the forum.  Great job!!
Yup, that's why I don't want a list of rules.
Nothing pisses me off more than to have some moron come here and start posting in all caps and bold while flaming.
Then when told to settle down, claims they aren't breaking any rules.

Etiquette, common courtesy is all we expect from anyone.

And glad you like the place, were installing a nude water slide next week. :)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 02, 2010, 07:36:03 AM
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:22:47 AM
Nope, Beau is not little ricky, I have known Beau for years, we never agree, but have fun berating each other, usually with limits.

Okey-dokey.

Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:13:56 AM
( . . . )
A good example would be what Beau did in this thread, his first post was to insult a poster.
My feelings are, if you can dish it out, expect a mouth full of your own crap back in your face.
( . . . )
If I see this happening, I will not punish the person that is necessarily melting down, but rather the ass that goaded them into it.


What happened here was this clown read ONE post and launched his nonsense immediately thereafter. If it walks like a Darwinist and talks like a Darwinist, it IS a Darwinist.

And I will hurt him. Every time he tries.

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Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: quiller on October 02, 2010, 07:36:03 AM
Okey-dokey.

What happened here was this clown read ONE post and launched his nonsense immediately thereafter. If it walks like a Darwinist and talks like a Darwinist, it IS a Darwinist.

And I will hurt him. Every time he tries.

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That's the thing We will look at, who is the real perpetrator in the collapse or meltdown of a poster.
If someone can make a case as to why they went off the deep end, say they were goaded on another thread, only to meltdown in a single post on another.
Ricky is a good example of a worthless poster, he hasn't the intellect worthy of debate and his antics and track record will sway the court to rule against him.

We all get heated from time to time, but if someone is goading or pushing buttons to instigate a meltdown of a poster, then that will be taken into consideration.

We all get heated from time to time, it's the nature of the beast, but instigating a meltdown can't be tolerated.

In conclusion, if  you and Crepe are arguing, and we can't come to a conclusion on who the instigator is, we will simply boot ricky. ;) ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 02, 2010, 08:31:27 AM
 ;D That ended well. Both crepe and I will be glad you spared the other, and settled for diplomacy....

See, I'd never seen ANYTHING from this putz Bamabeatoff, and right after Darwhiner signed in, the putz began his attacks. With membership still under 50 here, I think it was a reasonable assumption under those explicit circumstances.

I do reassert the idea that you do need an explicit general Terms of Service for posters. Above, you said they could claim something wasn't in the rules and would try it. Correct them under those circumstances and you THEN sound like you made up rules on the fly.

There are also legal disclaimers to help protect you. The original YaBB agreement has been modified (elsewhere) by "a certain forum administrator," but I truthfully can say that except for its most recent additions about being paid to remove offending posts, it was a pretty good one. The problem (as noted by someone else here) was in its application.

You can't be accused of copying something from "the other forum," as much as forced to do it because for some reason it isn't easily-found in the SimpleMachines build of this platform.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: admin on October 02, 2010, 08:48:50 AM
Quote from: quiller on October 02, 2010, 08:31:27 AM
;D That ended well. Both crepe and I will be glad you spared the other, and settled for diplomacy....
Works for me. ;)
QuoteSee, I'd never seen ANYTHING from this putz Bamabeatoff, and right after Darwhiner signed in, the putz began his attacks. With membership still under 50 here, I think it was a reasonable assumption under those explicit circumstances.

I do reassert the idea that you do need an explicit general Terms of Service for posters. Above, you said they could claim something wasn't in the rules and would try it. Correct them under those circumstances and you THEN sound like you made up rules on the fly.

There are also legal disclaimers to help protect you. The original YaBB agreement has been modified (elsewhere) by "a certain forum administrator," but I truthfully can say that except for its most recent additions about being paid to remove offending posts, it was a pretty good one. The problem (as noted by someone else here) was in its application.

You can't be accused of copying something from "the other forum," as much as forced to do it because for some reason it isn't easily-found in the SimpleMachines build of this platform.
I see no need for rules, common sense and common courtesy will be the rule of the forum.
Also, by having an explicit set of rules, opens you up to a new set of problems.

For example, "Beware Of Dog", sounds fine, you are warning would be intruders that they run the risk of of being bitten.
But it also sets you up for a lawsuit, it is an admittance of having a viscous dog on the premises.

Point is, sometimes when you go to court, you will hear them say, "There is no excuse for ignorance of the law".

So our rules will have a single disclaimer, "It Is Your Responsibility To Know And Understand Copyright Laws"
By joining the forum, you are agreeing to the follow all State and Federal laws regarding copyright.
You are solely responsible for your posts, CPF absolves any and all responsibility of what others post on this forum." (paraphrased)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 02, 2010, 08:57:18 AM
How about "Mom" rules.

Because I said so...
Don't make me come in (back) there...
If I made it you will eat it...
If all you friends jumped off a cliff would you...
Your grounded young man....
And of course the always favorite - This will hurt me more than it will hurt you...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 10:41:48 AM
Here's a rule...


  NO WHINING!   
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 01, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
I'll respond to this one post, Bert, to say this . . . if you don't like me or what I say, attack me.
I will extend to you and others that same courtesy.  If this forum cannot accomplish at least that,
then it is not worthy or my patronage, nor I suspect, the patronage of very many others.
I might have actually regained an iota of respect for you had your post simply said "Family should
be off limits" with no ifs, ands or buts.  The rest of your post regarding my actions here or
elsewhere, true or not, has nothing to do with respecting one another's wives and/or families.


Bama, the reality is you throw rocks at people, then when it is done to you you decide to rewrite the rules and bitch like a little girl. The bottom line is if you are easily offended stop with the crap.  As far as respecting me, fuck off. I don't care.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 10:41:48 AM
Here's a rule...


  NO WHINING!   
I like that one!!! 8)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: crepe05 on October 02, 2010, 03:31:31 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:33:05 AM
Yup, that's why I don't want a list of rules.
Nothing pisses me off more than to have some moron come here and start posting in all caps and bold while flaming.
Then when told to settle down, claims they aren't breaking any rules.

Etiquette, common courtesy is all we expect from anyone.

And glad you like the place, were installing a nude water slide next week. :)

Got men?   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: crepe05 on October 02, 2010, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:56:47 AM
That's the thing We will look at, who is the real perpetrator in the collapse or meltdown of a poster.
If someone can make a case as to why they went off the deep end, say they were goaded on another thread, only to meltdown in a single post on another.
Ricky is a good example of a worthless poster, he hasn't the intellect worthy of debate and his antics and track record will sway the court to rule against him.

We all get heated from time to time, but if someone is goading or pushing buttons to instigate a meltdown of a poster, then that will be taken into consideration.

We all get heated from time to time, it's the nature of the beast, but instigating a meltdown can't be tolerated.

In conclusion, if  you and Crepe are arguing, and we can't come to a conclusion on who the instigator is, we will simply boot ricky. ;) ;D

Hey, arguing is what these political message boards are all about, aren't they?  Too many pats on the back spoil the board, imo, of course.  If not, I shall be forced to go  " WAAAH".   ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:15:11 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 02, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
No, Bert, here's the real deal.  I throw rocks.  You throw marshmallows.
The problem is, you throw like a sissy.  And when you can't hit me, you think my family is fair game.
I'm not complaining about anyone assailing me.  Especially you.
If I choose to engage you, you will make more of my points more effectively than I will. 
Actually, I usually ignore you because you have so little of real value to contribute.
The problem is that you have no respect, evidently even for yourself.
So of course you attack, insult or slander a fellow poster's wife or family. 
And when you do so, the person whom you are exposing is yourself.
I'll continue to ignore you now for whatever time I remain here.
I fear that this forum has little chance of being better than any other forum you infest.

And as for you, kwiller . . . get a sense of humor.  You're a twisted f*ck.

Everybody happy now?  I know I am.

So I throw like a sissy yet you are the one whining and crying. Makes sense ::)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: taxed on October 02, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 02, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
No, Bert, here's the real deal.  I throw rocks.  You throw marshmallows.
The problem is, you throw like a sissy.  And when you can't hit me, you think my family is fair game.
I'm not complaining about anyone assailing me.  Especially you.
If I choose to engage you, you will make more of my points more effectively than I will. 
Actually, I usually ignore you because you have so little of real value to contribute.
The problem is that you have no respect, evidently even for yourself.
So of course you attack, insult or slander a fellow poster's wife or family. 
And when you do so, the person whom you are exposing is yourself.
I'll continue to ignore you now for whatever time I remain here.
I fear that this forum has little chance of being better than any other forum you infest.

And as for you, kwiller . . . get a sense of humor.  You're a twisted f*ck.

Everybody happy now?  I know I am.

Do you need a hug?
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: taxed on October 02, 2010, 07:16:46 PM
Do you need a hug?

No, he needs testicles...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 02, 2010, 07:19:55 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solars Toy on October 02, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:17:49 PM
No, he needs testicles...

Not all of us can have those you know.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 02, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
Not all of us can have those you know.... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Solars Toy on October 02, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
Not all of us can have those you know.... ;) ;) ;) ;)

Well he certainly doesn't...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:26:27 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 02, 2010, 07:25:32 PM
Sounds like Bert and taxed may be sharing one between them.

Yes. We bought it off your wife since you have no use for them...
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 02, 2010, 07:44:16 PM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 02, 2010, 07:35:13 PM


If no one here really cares about your "points" then you're really pissing in the wind..
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: quiller on October 03, 2010, 04:08:51 AM
Quote from: bama_beau_redux on October 02, 2010, 06:51:50 PM
No, Bert, here's the real deal.  I throw rocks.  You throw marshmallows.
The problem is, you throw like a sissy.  And when you can't hit me, you think my family is fair game.
I'm not complaining about anyone assailing me.  Especially you.
If I choose to engage you, you will make more of my points more effectively than I will. 
Actually, I usually ignore you because you have so little of real value to contribute.
The problem is that you have no respect, evidently even for yourself.
So of course you attack, insult or slander a fellow poster's wife or family. 
And when you do so, the person whom you are exposing is yourself.
I'll continue to ignore you now for whatever time I remain here.
I fear that this forum has little chance of being better than any other forum you infest.

And as for you, kwiller . . . get a sense of humor.  You're a twisted f*ck.

Everybody happy now?  I know I am.

What a sorry little jerk-off you are, Bamabeatoff. All venom and no bite.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Seawolf on October 04, 2010, 11:57:11 AM
Respectful to our military.  I think that posters who come here to denegrate our men and women in our Armed Forces should not be tolerated.  It was once a rule on another forum that fell to the wayside.  I do not mind honest discussion but outright slander should be a zero tolerance level on this forum.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 04, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: Seawolf on October 04, 2010, 11:57:11 AM
Respectful to our military.  I think that posters who come here to denegrate our men and women in our Armed Forces should not be tolerated.  It was once a rule on another forum that fell to the wayside.  I do not mind honest discussion but outright slander should be a zero tolerance level on this forum.
Link?
I'd like to see it for myself.
I agree, if someone is outright insulting our Military, it should be dealt with harshly.
But not by the admin, but rather the forum.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Seawolf on October 04, 2010, 03:50:46 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 04, 2010, 01:38:15 PM
Link?
I'd like to see it for myself.
I agree, if someone is outright insulting our Military, it should be dealt with harshly.
But not by the admin, but rather the forum.
I am answering the thread.  That is my suggestion, take it for what it is worth.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: admin on October 05, 2010, 07:50:53 AM
I think it's safe to say there are no rules, outside of the ones you agreed to when you joined.
Each case of indiscretion will be decided on it's own merit and judged by the members themselves as would any jury of peers.

Punishment will be a decision left to the admins.
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 05, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
Quote from: admin on October 05, 2010, 07:50:53 AM
I think it's safe to say there are no rules, outside of the ones you agreed to when you joined.
Each case of indiscretion will be decided on it's own merit and judged by the members themselves as would any jury of peers.

Punishment will be a decision left to the admins.

AND NO WHINING!
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Solar on October 05, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: Cryptic Bert on October 05, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
AND NO WHINING!
Bailiff, whack his pee pee!
Title: Re: You Make The Rules
Post by: Cryptic Bert on October 05, 2010, 07:46:51 PM
Quote from: Solar on October 05, 2010, 02:54:14 PM
Bailiff, whack his pee pee!

Bama doesn't have one...