They've never tested these supposed "Vaccines" against other medications being taken, be it over the counter meds, or blood pressure medications, they don't know how they react.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qtw47f6sQyqQ/
It's all gonna pass, so I'll pass on it too.
Quote from: Hoofer on February 28, 2021, 11:49:34 AM
It's all gonna pass, so I'll pass on it too.
I think I'll watch how it does for the next 5 to 10 years and then make a decision. Maybe 15 or 20.
I don't even let the VA give me a flu shot, so I'll be damned if I'll get some untested shit stuck in my body, shit an evil billionaire commie promotes under the guise, "It's good for the population".
A man that advocated for human extermination. Makes you wonder, is he really helping people of Africa? Margaret Sanger made the same claims at one time.
it is said that it affects your RNA.
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253
oh yeah...you can trust these folks...they know what they're doin'. REad the last sentence when she's asked if she'll take the vaccine. LOL
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2021, 06:03:35 AM
I don't even let the VA give me a flu shot, so I'll be damned if I'll get some untested shit stuck in my body, shit an evil billionaire commie promotes under the guise, "It's good for the population".
A man that advocated for human extermination. Makes you wonder, is he really helping people of Africa? Margaret Sanger made the same claims at one time.
The same goes for me. Hell I stopped letting the air force give me flu shits in 1970 and I sure as hell won't let the VA put some kinda untested crap no one knows about in me. Medical science doesn't know diddly squat about viral infections or they would have killed common colds off decades ago. When it comes to any virus they are on a par with witch doctors in some rain forest somewhere wlth a bone through his nose. In fact you might be better off with the witch doctor.
Looks like I will be one of the test subjects... already had the pfizer AND the flu... No symptoms and no significant reactions to either.
CAtholic bishops say don't take J&J vax because it uses aborted fetuses.
https://www.lifenews.com/2021/03/02/catholic-bishops-avoid-johnson-johnson-coronavirus-vaccine-created-with-cells-from-aborted-babies/
Last vaccinations I got were over 50 years ago, nothing serious since then, so why bother with them now.
After all, life is a terminal disease and this body's age has passed three score and ten anyway.
I never get flu shots...
Quote from: Owebo on March 03, 2021, 02:20:03 AM
I never get flu shots...
Same, and I never get the flu...!
Some things, the government likes to offer,
I just don't want to get in the habit of receiving. I see these guys at work, they get the annual shot, sick, "I thought that was suppose to prevent that?"
"Oh, it'd be a hellva lot worse, if I never got the shot!"
(.. maybe your body would be a little more resistant to the Flu... if you didn't get the shot..?)
Solar, I too never get the flu shot, turns out it is often useless (see book below). But my wife and I and lots of family have got the Covid-19 vaccine. Our daughter in laws are nurses and of course got it early on. When we grew up polio was the scare and eventually everyone got that shot. I'm sure you did too. So why not this one? Quote is from book below everyone shoud read.
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
This talk is excellent as well. 'Coronavirus is our future | Alanna Shaikh | TEDxSMU'
https://www.ted.com/talks/alanna_shaikh_coronavirus_is_our_future/transcript
'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs' by Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
Quote from: midcan5 on March 26, 2021, 04:27:19 AM
Solar, I too never get the flu shot, turns out it is often useless (see book below). But my wife and I and lots of family have got the Covid-19 vaccine. Our daughter in laws are nurses and of course got it early on. When we grew up polio was the scare and eventually everyone got that shot. I'm sure you did too. So why not this one? Quote is from book below everyone shoud read.
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
This talk is excellent as well. 'Coronavirus is our future | Alanna Shaikh | TEDxSMU'
https://www.ted.com/talks/alanna_shaikh_coronavirus_is_our_future/transcript
'Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs' by Michael T. Osterholm, Mark Olshaker
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
Because it is not a vaccine, it is genetic manipulation, it is also experimental and does not protect you from the CCP Flu.
Now the bigger question you should be asking is, why did Bill Gates have a patent on one of them long before the outbreak?
But even scarier, is the fact that he's a proponent of population control, so what will this do to your immune system when the next one rolls around?
I had the CCP Flu already, it was akin to a mild flu with a lingering nasty cold and a nasty dry cough.
Quote from: Solar on March 26, 2021, 05:20:59 AM
Because it is not a vaccine, it is genetic manipulation, it is also experimental and does not protect you from the CCP Flu.
Now the bigger question you should be asking is, why did Bill Gates have a patent on one of them long before the outbreak?
But even scarier, is the fact that he's a proponent of population control, so what will this do to your immune system when the next one rolls around?
I had the CCP Flu already, it was akin to a mild flu with a lingering nasty cold and a nasty dry cough.
That must have been what I had. It was like a head cold that went to my chest and hung on forever it seemed. Not bad but just annoying enough to be a PITA because it wouldn't end or go away. I think it was a couple of months or more
If you guys have had the virus with no serious side effects or long term issues that's great. One of my brothers and his son got it early too from his ex-wife's family. Don't laugh. My brother has been fine, his son has had some longer term issues so be careful. I have to check whether my nephew got or will get the vaccine. See this link.
'Some long-haul covid-19 patients say their symptoms are subsiding after getting vaccines'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-vaccine/2021/03/16/6effcb28-859e-11eb-82bc-e58213caa38e_story.html
As for genetic manipulation I agree it is some scary stuff. We grew up without all these vaccines and overall were healthy. One of our granddaughters was premature, we were amazed all the shots she got the first years. But she is a bright teenager today so all went well. See this piece too.
https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/12/yes-some-covid-vaccines-use-genetic-engineering-get-over-it/
Quote from: midcan5 on March 26, 2021, 02:27:02 PM
If you guys have had the virus with no serious side effects or long term issues that's great. One of my brothers and his son got it early too from his ex-wife's family. Don't laugh. My brother has been fine, his son has had some longer term issues so be careful. I have to check whether my nephew got or will get the vaccine. See this link.
'Some long-haul covid-19 patients say their symptoms are subsiding after getting vaccines'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/long-haul-covid-vaccine/2021/03/16/6effcb28-859e-11eb-82bc-e58213caa38e_story.html
As for genetic manipulation I agree it is some scary stuff. We grew up without all these vaccines and overall were healthy. One of our granddaughters was premature, we were amazed all the shots she got the first years. But she is a bright teenager today so all went well. See this piece too.
https://allianceforscience.cornell.edu/blog/2020/12/yes-some-covid-vaccines-use-genetic-engineering-get-over-it/
See, this is your biggest problem, you always seek self confirmation, you never search out the alternative truth, you only want to hear what supports for initial belief.
It's not a damned vaccine, it is an experimental process in genetics manipulation that never went to trial. You, my friend, are the Guinea pig, you are the lab rat!
I'm willing to bet you haven't even looked to see what adverse effects exist, which people should avoid the poke, have you?
Simple place to start would be, are you pregnant, do you have heart issues, a genetic propensity for say, arthritis or thyroid disease in your make up?
The list is long, these are what are referred to as "Underlying" conditions, perfectly healthy people die because they didn't do their research first.
When all your research consists of positive results, this is known as opinion bias. Don't deny it, I see it in your every post, you only want to seek out sites that support your own biases, yes, 99% of your posts are littered with pure ignorance.
You really need to stop and check yourself before it's too late!
Quote from: Solar on March 27, 2021, 06:39:49 AM
See, this is your biggest problem, you always seek self confirmation, you never search out the alternative truth, you only want to hear what supports for initial belief.
It's not a damned vaccine, it is an experimental process in genetics manipulation that never went to trial. You, my friend, are the Guinea pig, you are the lab rat!
I'm willing to bet you haven't even looked to see what adverse effects exist, which people should avoid the poke, have you?
Simple place to start would be, are you pregnant, do you have heart issues, a genetic propensity for say, arthritis or thyroid disease in your make up?
The list is long, these are what are referred to as "Underlying" conditions, perfectly healthy people die because they didn't do their research first.
When all your research consists of positive results, this is known as opinion bias. Don't deny it, I see it in your every post, you only want to seek out sites that support your own biases, yes, 99% of your posts are littered with pure ignorance.
You really need to stop and check yourself before it's too late!
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This was off one of the sites I am on. Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 27, 2021, 06:41:46 AM
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This was off one of the sites I am on. Toy
Perfect example of information not making it to the general public. :thumbup:
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 27, 2021, 06:41:46 AM
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This was off one of the sites I am on. Toy
But not found in your New Papers, TV News, Radio or Doctors Office.
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain
Solar, I do my homework and if you can find a source that supports your position, please share it. But below is from a reputable hospital who care that their info is correct as they fear being sued etc. How distrust of science has grown so in America mystifies me. Retraction watch below is an interesting site.
'Is the COVID-19 Vaccine Safe?'
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
Below are articles on fake science for the interested.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxevj5/the-coronavirus-truthers-dont-believe-in-public-health
https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/06/who-is-judy-mikovits/
And other concerning data:
'A handful of viruses have been associated with long-term, debilitating symptoms in a subset of those who become infected. Early signs hint that SARS-CoV-2 may do the same.'
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/could-covid-19-trigger-chronic-disease-in-some-people-67749
Quote from: midcan5 on March 28, 2021, 06:41:32 AM
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain
Solar, I do my homework and if you can find a source that supports your position, please share it. But below is from a reputable hospital who care that their info is correct as they fear being sued etc. How distrust of science has grown so in America mystifies me. Retraction watch below is an interesting site.
'Is the COVID-19 Vaccine Safe?'
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
Below are articles on fake science for the interested.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxevj5/the-coronavirus-truthers-dont-believe-in-public-health
https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/06/who-is-judy-mikovits/
And other concerning data:
'A handful of viruses have been associated with long-term, debilitating symptoms in a subset of those who become infected. Early signs hint that SARS-CoV-2 may do the same.'
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/could-covid-19-trigger-chronic-disease-in-some-people-67749
This i s exactly what I was talking about. You only want positive confirmation of your beliefs, so you ignore the truth because it doesn't "Feel" the way you want it to.
Ask why there have been an inordinate amount of deaths caused by the shot, and why you have to search to find it. Your media isn't going to tell you, the left is rolling in the bucks for every Guinea pig the poke.
I am actually shocked you went into this so blind, took the advice of family and ignored the true stats.
Go ahead, humor me, do a search for "Another health professional dies from the vaccine" and don't use google, they are in on this BS as well.
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 07:54:21 AM
This i s exactly what I was talking about. You only want positive confirmation of your beliefs, so you ignore the truth because it doesn't "Feel" the way you want it to.
Ask why there have been an inordinate amount of deaths caused by the shot, and why you have to search to find it. Your media isn't going to tell you, the left is rolling in the bucks for every Guinea pig the poke.
I am actually shocked you went into this so blind, took the advice of family and ignored the true stats.
Go ahead, humor me, do a search for "Another health professional dies from the vaccine" and don't use google, they are in on this BS as well.
What you're not understanding is that would require some thought and thinking is something some are simply relutant to try or else they're simply not equipped.
Quote from: dickfoster on March 28, 2021, 08:01:28 AM
What you're not understanding is that would require some thought and thinking is something some are simply relutant to try or else they're simply not equipped.
He has a horrible case of confirmation bias, everything he posts is pure leftist bull shit, and when called on it, doubles down on stupid.
You and I have lived long enough to know everything at face value, is in essence, a lie, (why women wear makeup), but these kids have yet to acquire that level of knowledge.
Quote from: Solar on March 28, 2021, 08:08:32 AM
He has a horrible case of confirmation bias, everything he posts is pure leftist bull shit, and when called on it, doubles down on stupid.
You and I have lived long enough to know everything at face value, is in essence, a lie, (why women wear makeup), but these kids have yet to acquire that level of knowledge.
The truly sad part is they are not likly to ever get there. To go anywhere you first have to want to go and today's dummys are apparently content to remain stupid for their entire worthless lives.
Quote from: dickfoster on March 28, 2021, 08:21:49 AM
The truly sad part is they are not likly to ever get there. To go anywhere you first have to want to go and today's dummys are apparently content to remain stupid for their entire worthless lives.
Sadly true! Until it hits them personally, they'll continue the path of obliviousness.
Quote from: midcan5 on March 28, 2021, 06:41:32 AM
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain
Solar, I do my homework and if you can find a source that supports your position, please share it. But below is from a reputable hospital who care that their info is correct as they fear being sued etc. How distrust of science has grown so in America mystifies me. Retraction watch below is an interesting site.
'Is the COVID-19 Vaccine Safe?'
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
Below are articles on fake science for the interested.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxevj5/the-coronavirus-truthers-dont-believe-in-public-health
https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/06/who-is-judy-mikovits/
And other concerning data:
'A handful of viruses have been associated with long-term, debilitating symptoms in a subset of those who become infected. Early signs hint that SARS-CoV-2 may do the same.'
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/could-covid-19-trigger-chronic-disease-in-some-people-67749
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Quote from: midcan5 on March 28, 2021, 06:41:32 AM
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain
Solar, I do my homework and if you can find a source that supports your position, please share it. But below is from a reputable hospital who care that their info is correct as they fear being sued etc. How distrust of science has grown so in America mystifies me. Retraction watch below is an interesting site.
'Is the COVID-19 Vaccine Safe?'
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
Below are articles on fake science for the interested.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxevj5/the-coronavirus-truthers-dont-believe-in-public-health
https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/06/who-is-judy-mikovits/
And other concerning data:
'A handful of viruses have been associated with long-term, debilitating symptoms in a subset of those who become infected. Early signs hint that SARS-CoV-2 may do the same.'
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/could-covid-19-trigger-chronic-disease-in-some-people-67749
One More For Ya, Bill Gates short vid. Listen closely to what he wants to do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVwIFDt99s&t=75s
The proof my friends is in the pudding. Our second vaccine is this week and according to many the second has more negatives for a few days. We'll put up with that to be safe and so America can return to normal. Many friends and family have already had both shots, one brother has had the J&J single shot. Science isn't always right but it is a better guide than online conspiracy and fake news as the video above shows. Hopefully you all stay safe.
"In short, the FunVax rumor originated largely with a filmmaker who sought to create a documentary of the same name about the "FunVax conspiracy." The only evidence supporting the rumor is a YouTube video of questionable veracity and an unsourced document that purportedly describes the project. The entire concept of FunVax (which was supposedly already secretly developed, produced, and tested on unwitting Americans) hinged on a "God gene" theory that has yet to pass peer review or yield any known applications. Furthermore, this unproven gene theory supposedly inspired a wide-scale vaccination program involving technologies heretofore unseen in all other areas of working medical science. None of these related technologies (including vastly simplified and effective dispensation of vaccines) has ever been applied or even piloted in any areas of science or medicine before, and are so covert they are virtually unknown in documented pharmaceutical technology. Taken alone, these objections would cast the rumor into the territory of science fiction; all together, it's pretty clear the claim is impossible on many levels."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/funvax/
Other sources to confirm:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gates-fundamentalists-penta/false-claim-video-shows-bill-gates-presenting-vaccine-for-religious-fundamentalists-to-pentagon-idUSKBN22P35M
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4aydjg/somehow-this-wild-hoax-bill-gates-anti-vaxx-video-doesnt-violate-youtubes-policies
https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-bill-gates-cia-briefing-factcheck-5111218-May2020/
Quote from: midcan5 on March 29, 2021, 04:44:49 AM
The proof my friends is in the pudding. Our second vaccine is this week and according to many the second has more negatives for a few days. We'll put up with that to be safe and so America can return to normal. Many friends and family have already had both shots, one brother has had the J&J single shot. Science isn't always right but it is a better guide than online conspiracy and fake news as the video above shows. Hopefully you all stay safe.
"In short, the FunVax rumor originated largely with a filmmaker who sought to create a documentary of the same name about the "FunVax conspiracy." The only evidence supporting the rumor is a YouTube video of questionable veracity and an unsourced document that purportedly describes the project. The entire concept of FunVax (which was supposedly already secretly developed, produced, and tested on unwitting Americans) hinged on a "God gene" theory that has yet to pass peer review or yield any known applications. Furthermore, this unproven gene theory supposedly inspired a wide-scale vaccination program involving technologies heretofore unseen in all other areas of working medical science. None of these related technologies (including vastly simplified and effective dispensation of vaccines) has ever been applied or even piloted in any areas of science or medicine before, and are so covert they are virtually unknown in documented pharmaceutical technology. Taken alone, these objections would cast the rumor into the territory of science fiction; all together, it's pretty clear the claim is impossible on many levels."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/funvax/
Other sources to confirm:
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-gates-fundamentalists-penta/false-claim-video-shows-bill-gates-presenting-vaccine-for-religious-fundamentalists-to-pentagon-idUSKBN22P35M
https://www.vice.com/en/article/4aydjg/somehow-this-wild-hoax-bill-gates-anti-vaxx-video-doesnt-violate-youtubes-policies
https://www.thejournal.ie/debunked-bill-gates-cia-briefing-factcheck-5111218-May2020/
Those are Bill Gates own words, are you saying he lied? Are you saying the "God Gene" wasn't their target?
You do realize Snoops only discredits the term "Funvax" not the article or video, They even claimed that because no one could prove the source, it "Could" be fake.
QuoteOn the site itself, the poster of the document admitted the video and the document were possibly faked and no evidence corroborating their authenticity was known:
That's it, no actual proof it was faked, only the fact that some film maker coined the term. That my lib friend, is not reporting, that is spin!
https://web.archive.org/web/20150315093243/http://www.wanttoknow.info/health/funvax_fundamentalist_vaccine
Granted, it may not be Gates, the video speaks for itself and how our govt cannot be trusted for something as simple as a Real Vaccine, of which this one is not.
Oh, and Snoops is not considered a reputable, anything!
Quote from: Possum on March 02, 2021, 03:42:51 AM
I think I'll watch how it does for the next 5 to 10 years and then make a decision. Maybe 15 or 20.
LOL Possum, don't be hasty, maybe 25-30 is better. LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I would bet my lunch money that if Fauci or the CDC came out with a "report" that stated that one can be "safe" by covering themselves with the excrement of a dog, there are some who would do it.
Quote from: RV on March 30, 2021, 05:39:14 AM
I would bet my lunch money that if Fauci or the CDC came out with a "report" that stated that one can be "safe" by covering themselves with the excrement of a dog, there are some who would do it.
Of course they would. Some used to believe that blowing tobacco smoke up ones ass would revive a drowning victim. I think some still do today. At least they are no brighter than the fools back then.
And then there was this reaction.... Man's Skin Burns, Swells, Then Peels Off in Severe Reaction to Johnson & Johnson Covid Vaccine
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A Goochland County man suffered a severe reaction after getting his COVID-19 vaccine and VCU doctors believe it was a direct result of the shot.
Richard Terrell got the one-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine earlier this month. He suffered a severe rash that spread over his entire body and turned his skin red. The 74-year-old was admitted to the hospital and spent five days at the VCU Medical Center.
Terrell was released from the hospital and is now sharing his vaccination story as he recovers from the comfort of his Goochland home. He tells 8News that he's still very weak and that it will take some time for him to fully recover, but he's thankful to have received his dose.
"It all just happened so fast. My skin peeled off," Terrell said as he looked down. "It's still coming off on my hands now."
On March 6, Terrell received the Johnson & Johnson vaccine in Ashland. He shares that everything went perfectly fine, however four days later he started experiencing symptoms.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/mans-skin-burns-swells-peels-off-severe-reaction-johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine/
"but he's thankful to have received his dose."
Apparently it causes brain damage too. :rolleyes:
That looks too familiar - I hope he sees an Oncologist, soon, and gets a blood work up.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 03:26:31 PM
That looks too familiar - I hope he sees an Oncologist, soon, and gets a blood work up.
I hope so also but, contacting an attorney is useless. The attorney will take whatever monies he has while the government, the drug company and the doctor are immune from accountability. He is on his own.
Quote from: RV on March 30, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
I hope so also but, contacting an attorney is useless. The attorney will take whatever monies he has while the government, the drug company and the doctor are immune from accountability. He is on his own.
He's just up the road, 2hrs from me. ... healthcare in Virginia is not-so-hot. You get passed around, one referral after another (each Doctor gets a cut $$ for the referral), before getting to the person you really needed to see. I sure hopes he recovers quickly, without any lasting damage - but, I'd see an Oncologist asap. If it's anything related to Lymphoma - it'll show up in the blood work.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 03:57:37 PM
He's just up the road, 2hrs from me. ... healthcare in Virginia is not-so-hot. You get passed around, one referral after another (each Doctor gets a cut $$ for the referral), before getting to the person you really needed to see. I sure hopes he recovers quickly, without any lasting damage - but, I'd see an Oncologist asap. If it's anything related to Lymphoma - it'll show up in the blood work.
Its nit just Virginia. The entire healthcare industry in this country has gone straight to hell. They are either milking an insurance cow or the big medicare ciw.
The one and only way to fix it is to first make selling healthcare insurance illegal for the fraud it is and get the government to hell out of the healthcare business altogether. That way prices would come crashing back to earth and doctors would once again give a shit about their patients because they'd either have to or starve. It used to be exactly that way in this country not so long ago and things worked one hell of a lot better then than they do today.
Quote from: dickfoster on March 30, 2021, 02:57:20 PM
"but he's thankful to have received his dose."
Apparently it causes brain damage too. :rolleyes:
I couldn't believe he said that. So indoctrinated. Must be a liberal... Toy
Quote from: Solars Toy on March 30, 2021, 04:46:27 PM
I couldn't believe he said that. So indoctrinated. Must be a liberal... Toy
He may be an idiot but so called liberals are anything but liberal. Liberal has
go do with liberty and the assholes want anything but that for anyone including themselves. However they have been known to drool liberally.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 30, 2021, 03:57:37 PM
He's just up the road, 2hrs from me. ... healthcare in Virginia is not-so-hot. You get passed around, one referral after another (each Doctor gets a cut $$ for the referral), before getting to the person you really needed to see. I sure hopes he recovers quickly, without any lasting damage - but, I'd see an Oncologist asap. If it's anything related to Lymphoma - it'll show up in the blood work.
My wife had stage 4 Non-Hodgekins Lymphoma several years ago. It wasn't fun.
Yikes that is some rash. Only one family member so far has gotten the J&J vaccine with no issues. Be extra careful if you have allergies. My wife has allergies but was fine with the Pfizer vaccine. See link for more info.
https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download
Quote from: midcan5 on March 31, 2021, 04:16:29 AM
Yikes that is some rash. Only one family member so far has gotten the J&J vaccine with no issues. Be extra careful if you have allergies. My wife has allergies but was fine with the Pfizer vaccine. See link for more info.
https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download
You're nothing more than a lab rat! These are untested in human trials, that usually take 7-10 years, but you gullibly jump right in without caution, not knowing any of the long-term sideeffects.
Why are you so trusting of people who never had your best interests at heart? You do know, the CDC is a drug company, Right?
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Quote from: RV on March 30, 2021, 07:10:06 PM
My wife had stage 4 Non-Hodgekins Lymphoma several years ago. It wasn't fun.
Drilling into your hip for a bone marrow sample ... is a certain pain, like none other. And that area remained quite "sensitive" for a month afterwards.
My brother was falsely diagnosed with Non-Hodgins Lymphoma - turned out he had Toxoplasmosis (sp), or "Cat Scratch Fever". He almost died at the cancer clinic, till they treated him with a cheap Sulfa Drug - was up walking around 36hrs later, still weakened from 3 months of being bed ridden & those powerful chemo drugs. He was given 5 years, the time from when his body would release what had been "encapsulated" ... was warned when it started to happen, he would "go fast". He went from healthy looking to dead in less than 2 weeks.
Sorry to hear about your wife, these blood diseases are really, really tricky things - hard to really nail down & treat without killing the patient. All the money in the world, can't buy good health, but, they sure like to pretend like it'll take all the money you got to try!
I will NOT vaccinate - IMO, anyone with a compromised immune system, or 'other than normal' immune system, is like pouring gasoline onto a lit match. It's easy to handle, until something really powerful explosive is added.
Quote from: midcan5 on March 31, 2021, 04:16:29 AM
Yikes that is some rash. Only one family member so far has gotten the J&J vaccine with no issues. Be extra careful if you have allergies. My wife has allergies but was fine with the Pfizer vaccine. See link for more info.
https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download
Over 100 Fully Vaccinated People in Washington State Test Positive for COVID-19https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/over-100-fully-vaccinated-people-in-washington-state-test-positive-for-covid-19_3757218.html?&utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-03-31-2&mktids=e013de54a9e22839e9043802b99c7d10
Why do I keep reading this so-called-vaccine is not really a vaccine, but an RNA modifier, like adding a
"drug receptacle" to your body? Got another virus coming, no worries, the drug companies can modify a drug to sort of "plug into the new RNA enabled receptors" you've been modified for, and deliver the dose! "Oh, you have 2 kids, this will make you sterile", "Here, this will dull your sense of empathy, it'll be easier to kill off the old & sickly instead of care for them."
One of my sons, is an EMT, he got 2 shots. The second shot made him *really* sick. He's very athletic, runs daily, trains for marathon and Iron Man stuff... kinda doubt he's somehow compromised - like I am.
If I live to see some government "system" plug mind, mood or physically alternating into my son & damage him - it will not go over well.
Quote from: Hoofer on April 01, 2021, 05:30:15 AM
Why do I keep reading this so-called-vaccine is not really a vaccine, but an RNA modifier, like adding a
"drug receptacle" to your body? Got another virus coming, no worries, the drug companies can modify a drug to sort of "plug into the new RNA enabled receptors" you've been modified for, and deliver the dose! "Oh, you have 2 kids, this will make you sterile", "Here, this will dull your sense of empathy, it'll be easier to kill off the old & sickly instead of care for them."
One of my sons, is an EMT, he got 2 shots. The second shot made him *really* sick. He's very athletic, runs daily, trains for marathon and Iron Man stuff... kinda doubt he's somehow compromised - like I am.
If I live to see some government "system" plug mind, mood or physically alternating into my son & damage him - it will not go over well.
Spot on!
Quote from: Hoofer on April 01, 2021, 05:30:15 AM
Why do I keep reading this so-called-vaccine is not really a vaccine, but an RNA modifier, like adding a
"drug receptacle" to your body? Got another virus coming, no worries, the drug companies can modify a drug to sort of "plug into the new RNA enabled receptors" you've been modified for, and deliver the dose! "Oh, you have 2 kids, this will make you sterile", "Here, this will dull your sense of empathy, it'll be easier to kill off the old & sickly instead of care for them."
One of my sons, is an EMT, he got 2 shots. The second shot made him *really* sick. He's very athletic, runs daily, trains for marathon and Iron Man stuff... kinda doubt he's somehow compromised - like I am.
If I live to see some government "system" plug mind, mood or physically alternating into my son & damage him - it will not go over well.
My son-in-law works at a Children's hospital and also was required to get the injection. Like your son, he got very ill for several days. It almost seems like the injection for the virus is worse than getting the actual virus. It also strikes me as odd that it is against the law for a person to know which "vaccine" they are getting prior to injection and that there is no legal recourse afterwards if something goes wrong. It also strikes me as odd that they are calling it a "vaccine" but, it really isn't a "vaccine". Then there are the inflated and rigged numbers of Wuhan virus deaths, infections, etc.
It all makes me NOT want to have anything to do with it.
Quote from: midcan5 on March 31, 2021, 04:16:29 AM
Yikes that is some rash. Only one family member so far has gotten the J&J vaccine with no issues. Be extra careful if you have allergies. My wife has allergies but was fine with the Pfizer vaccine. See link for more info.
https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download
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Yes Midcan, these are all for you!
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/02/vaccine-passports-are-a-serious-threat-to-american-civil-liberties/
"A Right to Be Left Alone
We have a constitutionally implied fundamental right to privacy; various guarantees in the Bill of Rights "have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance...creat[ing] "zones of privacy." Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479, 484 (1965). The right to privacy encompasses everything from what we do in the privacy of our own bedrooms, to how we educate our children, and to what we choose to insert into our bodies.
The right to privacy also incorporates a right to be left alone, a concept dating as far back as an 1890 Harvard Law Review Article by Samuel Warren and Louis Brandeis, in which they noted that our laws are universal and eternal, "grow[ing] to meet the new demands of society." As time passed, "[g]radually the scope of [] legal rights broadened; and now the right to life has come to mean the right to enjoy life, — the right to be let alone; the right to liberty secures the exercise of extensive civil privileges..."
Being forced to carry sensitive personal health information on apps is highly problematic from a privacy standpoint..... "
Nails it for me, perfectly - Leave me ALONE! It's my body, my life, if it work for you, it's only 40hours of my week, the rest of the time is MINE, and that does not qualify your invasive chemicals in my body.
Thanks Solar like the photo. I even own several hoodies. Article below is interesting. Wife and I got second shot, feeling fine so far. Stay safe.
"Why, then, has there been so much death and suffering? Because of bad political decisions.
In previous eras, when humans faced a plague such as the Black Death, they had no idea what caused it or how it could be stopped. When the 1918 influenza struck, the best scientists in the world couldn't identify the deadly virus, many of the countermeasures adopted were useless, and attempts to develop an effective vaccine proved futile.
It was very different with Covid-19. The first alarm bells about a potential new epidemic began sounding at the end of December 2019. By January 10 2020, scientists had not only isolated the responsible virus, but also sequenced its genome and published the information online. Within a few more months it became clear which measures could slow and stop the chains of infection."
https://www.ft.com/content/f1b30f2c-84aa-4595-84f2-7816796d6841
Quote from: midcan5 on April 03, 2021, 07:21:08 AM
Thanks Solar like the photo. I even own several hoodies. Article below is interesting. Wife and I got second shot, feeling fine so far. Stay safe.
"Why, then, has there been so much death and suffering? Because of bad political decisions.
In previous eras, when humans faced a plague such as the Black Death, they had no idea what caused it or how it could be stopped. When the 1918 influenza struck, the best scientists in the world couldn't identify the deadly virus, many of the countermeasures adopted were useless, and attempts to develop an effective vaccine proved futile.
It was very different with Covid-19. The first alarm bells about a potential new epidemic began sounding at the end of December 2019. By January 10 2020, scientists had not only isolated the responsible virus, but also sequenced its genome and published the information online. Within a few more months it became clear which measures could slow and stop the chains of infection."
https://www.ft.com/content/f1b30f2c-84aa-4595-84f2-7816796d6841
Laugh out loud! "Within a few more months, it became clear how the virus could be used to scare the gullible and steal the election..."
Quote from: midcan5 on April 03, 2021, 07:21:08 AM
Thanks Solar like the photo. I even own several hoodies. Article below is interesting. Wife and I got second shot, feeling fine so far. Stay safe.
"Why, then, has there been so much death and suffering? Because of bad political decisions.
In previous eras, when humans faced a plague such as the Black Death, they had no idea what caused it or how it could be stopped. When the 1918 influenza struck, the best scientists in the world couldn't identify the deadly virus, many of the countermeasures adopted were useless, and attempts to develop an effective vaccine proved futile.
It was very different with Covid-19. The first alarm bells about a potential new epidemic began sounding at the end of December 2019. By January 10 2020, scientists had not only isolated the responsible virus, but also sequenced its genome and published the information online. Within a few more months it became clear which measures could slow and stop the chains of infection."
https://www.ft.com/content/f1b30f2c-84aa-4595-84f2-7816796d6841
What you didn't know, is Gates and cohorts had already been working on a vaccine without human trials years prior, yes, he holds several patents in the field of Covid, as he was working with the CCP at the time.
Then suddenly, as if it was a "New Virus", formerly known as the common cold, had hit the world stage and alarm bells were being rung worldwide.
Did none of this set off your BS detector? Of course not, you've been brainwashed into believing govt knows best. (think Tuskegee Study).
And it is still not a vaccine!!! You gullibly swallowed the big lie!
Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2021, 09:06:33 AM
What you didn't know, is Gates and cohorts had already been working on a vaccine without human trials years prior, yes, he holds several patents in the field of Covid, as he was working with the CCP at the time.
Then suddenly, as if it was a "New Virus", formerly known as the common cold, had hit the world stage and alarm bells were being rung worldwide.
Did none of this set off your BS detector? Of course not, you've been brainwashed into believing govt knows best. (think Tuskegee Study).
And it is still not a vaccine!!! You gullibly swallowed the big lie!
Why has there been so much "death and suffering?" Because the figures are so skewed, we may never know. The truth is that it is unknown how much "death and suffering" there actually was because EVERY death was listed as a Covid death. If this "virus" was so deadly, why would the authorities have to mess with the numbers and list EVERY death as if it were Covid? Check out the flu numbers and you'll see what I mean.
Dont you remember when the lockdown started ? It was supposed to be bad that first 2 weeks said Fauci. Didnt happen. So fauci said, oh it's this next 2 weeks. And then the third. I mean didnt any one start getting a little suspicious? Lol
Quote from: RV on April 03, 2021, 10:41:22 AM
Why has there been so much "death and suffering?" Because the figures are so skewed, we may never know. The truth is that it is unknown how much "death and suffering" there actually was because EVERY death was listed as a Covid death. If this "virus" was so deadly, why would the authorities have to mess with the numbers and list EVERY death as if it were Covid? Check out the flu numbers and you'll see what I mean.
Exactly, why threaten, coerce, or bribe to get people to take the shot? Because they know we know the truth.
I saw actual data showing the flu death was lighter or close to on par with this additional cold CCP virus.
There is definitely something amiss when the guy who holds patents in the so acclaimed "Vaccine" thinks the world is over crowded and people need to die to save it.
Pure evil!
Let's not forget how these Marxist Governors moved sick people in with the elderly. That was no accident...
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Morning everyone, hope all are well. Got our second Pfizer shot and while it has some negatives, tired and maybe headaches, glad it is over. I am hoping follow up is not in the future. I may skip that as I never got the flu shot. Often the flu vaccine was useless as the strains of flu vary.
Solar, yes I was aware of some of that info you posted, but Gates is wealthy enough, hopefully any support was well intended. And the book I mentioned earlier is worth everyone's time. It was written before this pandemic. Book linked below.
I thought this photograph interesting and kinda funny. We forget the history of heath issues like plague and polio etc. Germs, what are germs.
https://iffy.news/2020/congress-covid-positive-party/
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
Quote from: midcan5 on April 07, 2021, 05:07:08 AM
Morning everyone, hope all are well. Got our second Pfizer shot and while it has some negatives, tired and maybe headaches, glad it is over. I am hoping follow up is not in the future. I may skip that as I never got the flu shot. Often the flu vaccine was useless as the strains of flu vary.
Solar, yes I was aware of some of that info you posted, but Gates is wealthy enough, hopefully any support was well intended. And the book I mentioned earlier is worth everyone's time. It was written before this pandemic. Book linked below.
I thought this photograph interesting and kinda funny. We forget the history of heath issues like plague and polio etc. Germs, what are germs.
https://iffy.news/2020/congress-covid-positive-party/
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
Yet you fail to see the bigger picture? You have been myopically driven in your quest to prove your decision the right one, all the while ignoring the conspiracy behind the CCP to destroy the US.
Why is it you think a guy who dropped out of college who made billions by stealing an idea Apple created, is somehow altruistic in his endeavors into the pharma world.
One question, and I see this as a character flaw. What is it in you that drives you away for researching both sides of any given issue?
It appears you think you're well read, yet avoid looking at all sides of an issue. This s not science, science is apolitical, it has no agenda, yet the left abuses data every chance it gets.
When science proved the Marxists lied, they used a bio weapon to subdue the planet with a mask mandate.
Why do you put so much faith in politicians?
Quote from: midcan5 on April 07, 2021, 05:07:08 AM
Morning everyone, hope all are well. Got our second Pfizer shot and while it has some negatives, tired and maybe headaches, glad it is over. I am hoping follow up is not in the future. I may skip that as I never got the flu shot. Often the flu vaccine was useless as the strains of flu vary.
Solar, yes I was aware of some of that info you posted, but Gates is wealthy enough, hopefully any support was well intended. And the book I mentioned earlier is worth everyone's time. It was written before this pandemic. Book linked below.
I thought this photograph interesting and kinda funny. We forget the history of heath issues like plague and polio etc. Germs, what are germs.
https://iffy.news/2020/congress-covid-positive-party/
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
Got a minute? It won't be up long...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7gq8RKLiI
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2021, 05:39:16 AM
Got a minute? It won't be up long...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV7gq8RKLiI
Really good video, very accurate. As a former law enforcement officer, I can attest that what he said is true.
Quote from: midcan5 on April 07, 2021, 05:07:08 AM
Morning everyone, hope all are well. Got our second Pfizer shot and while it has some negatives, tired and maybe headaches, glad it is over. I am hoping follow up is not in the future. I may skip that as I never got the flu shot. Often the flu vaccine was useless as the strains of flu vary.
Solar, yes I was aware of some of that info you posted, but Gates is wealthy enough, hopefully any support was well intended. And the book I mentioned earlier is worth everyone's time. It was written before this pandemic. Book linked below.
I thought this photograph interesting and kinda funny. We forget the history of heath issues like plague and polio etc. Germs, what are germs.
https://iffy.news/2020/congress-covid-positive-party/
"Mother Nature is the greatest bioterrorist of them all, with no financial limitations or ethical compunctions."
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30841977-deadliest-enemy
What the hell is this
we shit?
Quote from: RV on April 07, 2021, 06:32:02 AM
Really good video, very accurate. As a former law enforcement officer, I can attest that what he said is true.
Same here. I knew these cops, most saw the citizenry as the adversary while about less than half understood the job and the Constitution.
Some actually saw themselves as glorified babysitters who needed to intervene every chance the got, though their intentions were good, their results seldom turned out good.
Quote from: walkstall on April 07, 2021, 07:17:53 AM
What the hell is this we shit?
I love how he attempts to equate actual Vaccines that triggered our immune systems as opposed to gene manipulation.
An experimental science that has absolutely nothing to do with preventing the CCP Flu. They even admit it.
Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2021, 07:32:22 AM
Same here. I knew these cops, most saw the citizenry as the adversary while about less than half understood the job and the Constitution.
Some actually saw themselves as glorified babysitters who needed to intervene every chance the got, though their intentions were good, their results seldom turned out good.
I was riding with a Captain once who said with a straight face to me that he was god as far as the civilians were concerned and they had better treat him that way. Needless to say I quit.
Quote from: RV on April 07, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
I was riding with a Captain once who said with a straight face to me that he was god as far as the civilians were concerned and they had better treat him that way. Needless to say I quit.
Wow, God complex. Yeah, I'd have walked away as well.
I had my moments as well, but one tends to become calloused over time. I used to tell the perp outright, "I am judge jury and hangman, so your cooperation is imperative!"
"I'm writing a report the DA and judge will see. Do you understand what I'm saying"?
More than 95% of the time it bought on calmness cooperation and most became compliant, they knew what I wrote would have positive effect in the long run if they were cooperative rather than combative.
I never wanted to be an asshole, but when I started seeing evil everywhere I turned, I got out. There is nothing worse than having to drive home a different way every night, park away from the house, for at least 1o minutes to scan the area, every knock at the door invited suspicion.
I know you know what I'm talking about, it was a life I wanted to leave behind.
I still keep a binder of over 100 mugshot arrests I made, just in case one ever came back on me. That's been nearly 40 years now...
Quote from: RV on April 07, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
I was riding with a Captain once who said with a straight face to me that he was god as far as the civilians were concerned and they had better treat him that way. Needless to say I quit.
Was on the property of a cop (real punk), on a right-of-way, that cut through his property - and had been a right-of-way, longer than this cop had been alive. He started talking trash, making demands, so I said, you do that, and the "law is going to descend upon you."
"
I AM the LAW!!!!", he hollered.
"For interfering with Interstate Commerce, those big corporations will take your house, this acreage, you'll sitting in prison, with "bubba" - then you can tell me who *is* the F-king law. You mess with anything in this right-of-way, interfere with this fiber, I'll be back & not alone."
"Oh yeah!? blah, blah, blah...."
"The 3-letter departments who use this cable, also run those black helicopters, drones & monitor guys like you. They have little patience for cops with big mouths & egos."
There are *some* cops with bad attitudes I'd WANT for certain things - this guy was just hot air. I heard he was "talked to" ... and has a much better attitude... :thumbsup:
I have Graves disease and asked my endocrinologist how safe is it for me to get the COVID-19 vaccine, what reactions should I expect....? Her reply was and I quote....."we just don't know".
I have a funny feeling no matter what health problems we have the answer if the doctor is truthful is...."we just don't know".
Here listen to this top Immunologist and 'Pro-Vaccine' Doctor Byram Bidle Issues Warning. It's a very short 8 minute video.
Quote from: Bronx on June 09, 2021, 01:25:00 PMI have Graves disease and asked my endocrinologist how safe is it for me to get the COVID-19 vaccine, what reactions should I expect....? Her reply was and I quote....."we just don't know".
I have a funny feeling no matter what health problems we have the answer if the doctor is truthful is...."we just don't know".
Here listen to this top Immunologist and 'Pro-Vaccine' Doctor Byram Bidle Issues Warning. It's a very short 8 minute video.
And they say I am a dam fool for not take the jab.
Now I see why they have immunity from everything from the jabs.