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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2017, 11:20:20 AM »
So why is answering the question so hard?

Again, what's so hard about answering the question? You want us to waste our time answering your questions, but you won't answer ours.

No your not, your trying to ram your ideology down others throat, otherwise you'd answer the questions presented you.

So then why haven't you created another thread and answered the question? Are you starting to see a pattern here?

Who cares? You can waste bandwidth on excuses, yet you won't answer the question. Why?

Actually you are and you do. You scoffed at both solar's and taxed's credentials as a businessmen' yet refuse to present your own credentials. Isn't that proper debate manners?

You tell me I have no idea what socialism is, when I diddn't even define it.

You mean your refusal to back up your claim. Isn't that also proper debate manners?

Yet you expect us to answer your questions, right?

Tell you what,  let me respond this way...

Should I be banned for failing to answer the question?

That is the only issue of my response.   Everything you posted is simply an attempt to justify Solar's decision to be unprincipled in his decision.

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2017, 11:22:21 AM »
Tell you what,  let me respond this way...

Should I be banned for failing to answer the question?

That is the only issue of my response.   Everything you posted is simply an attempt to justify Solar's decision to be unprincipled in his decision.

Now your trying to change the subject.

What qualifies you to judge their qualifications?

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2017, 11:26:25 AM »
Now your trying to change the subject.

What qualifies you to judge their qualifications?

So now,  in order to have an opinion,  a person has to prove his qualifications?   Facts don't matter,  all that matters is the qualifications of this that make the argument?

First,  that's a debate fallacy,  it's called "the argument from authority".

Next,  I retorted with a person of much greater qualifications,  who my options are,  on the topic of economics,  perfectly aligned with,  and you rejected them out of hand.

You are a walking contradiction.

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2017, 11:28:55 AM »
Tell you what,  let me respond this way...

Should I be banned for failing to answer the question?

That is the only issue of my response.   Everything you posted is simply an attempt to justify Solar's decision to be unprincipled in his decision.

No unprincipled is expecting everyone else to answer your questions, but refusing to answer theirs.

Unprincipled is having no qualifications yet thinking you can judge everyone elses qualifications

That's unprincipled

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2017, 11:32:53 AM »
So now,  in order to have an opinion,  a person has to prove his qualifications?   Facts don't matter,  all that matters is the qualifications of this that make the argument?

Your the one that judged their qualifications. Little Hypocritical don't you think.

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First,  that's a debate fallacy,  it's called "the argument from authority".

So its okay for you to use debate fallacies, but no one else, right?

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Next,  I retorted with a person of much greater qualifications,  who my options are,  on the topic of economics,  perfectly aligned with,  and you rejected them out of hand.

Like you rejected solar and taxed out of hand, right?

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You are a walking contradiction.

Are you talking to a mirror?

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2017, 11:33:12 AM »
No unprincipled is expecting everyone else to answer your questions, but refusing to answer theirs.

Unprincipled is having no qualifications yet thinking you can judge everyone elses qualifications

That's unprincipled

Is that deserving of being banned from the forum?

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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2017, 11:38:24 AM »
Oh,  and for the record,  I never refused to discuss,  I told Solar he should start a new thread and we could discuss.   That would allow for an answer to the question and keep from derailing the thread.   Of course this has never really been about me answering questions.

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2017, 11:40:07 AM »
Is that deserving of being banned from the forum?
Again, you attemp to change the subject, hoping to skip over your unprincipled behavior.

You want answers to your questions, aanswer others questions. Or admit you ddon't know what your talking about in reference to income inequality

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2017, 11:43:16 AM »
Oh,  and for the record,  I never refused to discuss,  I told Solar he should start a new thread and we could discuss.   That would allow for an answer to the question and keep from derailing the thread.   Of course this has never really been about me answering questions.

So, there's a problem with you starting a thread?

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Of course this has never really been about me answering questions.

Well, you'll never know unless you aanswer the question.

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2017, 11:44:36 AM »
Again, you attemp to change the subject, hoping to skip over your unprincipled behavior.

You want answers to your questions, aanswer others questions. Or admit you ddon't know what your talking about in reference to income inequality

I've answered all of your questions,  you have apparently failed to comprehend.   I cannot control that,  that's on you.   All the answers you seek are above.

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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2017, 11:47:19 AM »
I've answered all of your questions,  you have apparently failed to comprehend.   I cannot control that,  that's on you.   All the answers you seek are above.

No your the one refusing to comprehend.

Actually, I get it. You want to be vicimized by the evil conservatives.

And, God forbid, you should look at what you did to cause it. You want you questions answered, answer others. Simple.

However, I started an Income Inequality thread.

Now let'ss see if you really intend on answering questions, or if your just trolling
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Re: Time Equals Profit for Banks
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2017, 12:00:05 PM »
Few thoughts on what is sure to be my last post here at CPF.

Now I've been put to an ultimatum.  Answer a moderators question or be banned.

"There is an argument to be made for income inequality"
On this forum, when a member asks a poster to back up a claim, they are obligated to post relating facts without using opinion pieces as source material. This pertains to all members, not just leftists that have to back up any and all claims when challenged.
It really is that simple, just ask anyone here. But it's funny, you come to a community, push your backward way of thinking and demand others discuss your leftist lunacy, furthering your delusion that it has a practical place in a free capitalist society.

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Frankly, I find it shocking and incredibly hypocritical that members of this forum could be so selective in their outrage as to justify such an unprincipled action.  Not answering a question is not a violation of the terms of service.  First, because it was not the thrust of the conversation, a conversation that I started.  And second because of the way that I said it.
That's right, you made a leftist claim on a conservative forum and are still expected to back it up.
So there are two possibilities here, one being you realized just how stupid your claim was, or two, that you are unable to back it up because you came to the conclusion, that no one can make an argument supporting it.

Apparently not.  You might want to take that down.
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To say that there is "an argument to be made" is not the same as saying that you believe or are necessarily convinced of that argument. The implication of that statement is to recognize that there is value in a discussion and learning all point of view on a particular topic.  Indeed, that's what I'm doing here.  Having a discussion with people I disagree with.  To take the time to learn, even be influenced by those that I disagree with, even if I don't list the changes that my conversations with self-proclaimed conservatives have had on me, I assure you that in speaking to people in several Conservative forums I have come to understand and be considerate of many things that I might not have otherwise have considered without having had this experience.   Lastly, I said that I would be happy to debate the topic of income inequality in a new thread, but that derailing threads on side topics are generally considered poor forum ettiqute.
Now see how easy that was? And to think, you've blabbered on for some time now defending not derailing the thread, yet you derail? :rolleyes:
You even stated you were willing to start a new thread, yet you insist on derailing your own thread in avoidance of the topic. Why is that? I'd say you're a perfect example of poor forum etiquette.

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For instance, I think there is an argument to be made for parents to limit their children's access to cell phones,

Define derail again? :rolleyes:
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there is an argument to be made for leaving marriage as a strictly religious institution and removing the state's role in it all together.
 
Straw man comes to mind now...

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There is an argument to be made that the President's executive powers should be more limited.  There's an argument to be made that judicial activism has exceeded the power of the Constitution.  There is an argument to be made that the terms "rape culture" and "white privilege" are the result of a generation of sheltered children who are now adults and don't know how to resolve conflict without resorting to manipulation of those in authority.....ect....ect.
Yeah, OK already, we get it, you would rather bore us to death than discuss the subject...

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Now I, of course, have ideas of my own about all of these, but in a nation where ideas can be changed, where our founding document can be amended, discussion and evidence should matter.  It should be of the highest cultural significance.  The problem is that there are elements on opposing sides who scoff at the simple idea of having that conversation.  Now I don't claim to know what the "founders intended",

Well, there's a Big Ass, No Shit Sherlock!

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but what I do know is that they came from fairly diverse backgrounds and the nation they were trying to build was even more diverse and I'm certain that they understood the value of conversation.  The idea that it was ok to consider ideas of those they vehemently disagreed with even if they didn't accept them.
You just posted a perfect example of Conservative. Ask anyone of us about our Founding Documents and you'll get roughly the same answer across the board, but ask a liberal, and you'll get a whole host of bull shit, with one consensus, that they need to be destroyed to some extent.
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I'm not here calling people stupid.  I don't demonize the opinions of others, even when I disagree.  I've never said that Conservative ideas are destructive.  The only thing I find destructive is the intolerance on the Left, Right, Conservative, Liberal, Progressive, Libertarian or whatever words you wish to use to self-identify, the point is the thing that is most destructive is the intolerance of simple conversation (again, on all sides of the political debate).
Let me briefly explain what you fail to understand. The values this Nation was Founded on, the ones defined in our Founding Documents, is the epitome of Conservatism, to waiver from that in any form, is to go against the moors of Conservative ideals.
 
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Banning me for refusal to answer a question in this context is no different than what the false-Liberals are doing when they cleanse their colleges of speakers who they believe have ideas that they disagree with.  When Black Lives Matter interrupt conversations of those that disagree or feminists demand that their ideas be held sacred and unquestioning.  That somehow even hearing an argument will offend them. Thier claims and ideas are no longer up for debate and have become sacred.
That is what has happened here.  My decision, my refusal to "fall in line" has been met with exile from the group. 

Wait, are you under the illusion you should be afforded a podium from which to spew leftist bull shit is some kind of right?
Sir, you are here as my guest, nothing more, you are given the privilege to speak, you are not however given free reign to post anti-American propaganda.

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I can't be forced to answer a question and I find it sad that there isn't a single person willing to step out of line in this group on principled grounds to call out this unprincipled behavior.  I expect this kind of behavior from radical progressives.  Conservatives in my experience are more likely to stick to the principles they set for themselves.  I guess what we're seeing is a change, where Conservatives are ok to adopt the worst of Progressive intolerance.  Intolerance they claim to despise. 

How ironic.

In the end, I really don't care if you remove me (for not answering a question...lol)...  The point is, you, the Conservative member of this forum, should care.

-Cheers
For the same reason, you can't force us to endure your leftist nonsense.
It's funny, not one of us on this forum could ever get away with going to a leftist forum and post our beliefs without retribution, believe me, every member is here because of liberal sites banning them, myself included, which is why I started this very forum.
So don't cry to me about being censored, because no one here has done anything of the sort, in fact, I have been demanding you expand on your leftist drivel.
So cut the crocodile tears bull shit, they just expose your false victimhood claim, a typical tactic used by liberals when called upon to defend their positions, snowflake.

So hop to it, we're all waiting with baited breath for your explanation of "There is an argument to be made for income inequality".
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