solar, you know whats really funny.  You accuse of posting things I didnt post  (your claim that I said Obama balanced the budget) and then accuse of not posting things I did post. and I answered your question several times.  I even adjusted the answer using the deficit from 2012. You just dont like the answer because it doesnt fit your 'faith' based economic beliefs

Id say ask your toadies but even you know I answered it.  Lets face it solar, you dont like the facts I post.  You thought "bush tried to warn us about the bubble" and you've been ranting at me ever since.   

and if you are really really mad that we are not paying back our creditors, guess what, not paying back our creditors was one of the excuses for the Bush Tax cuts

Running surpluses without a debt, Greenspan warned, would result in the "longer-term fiscal policy issue" of a government paying off its debt, particularly long-term Treasury bonds, before the bonds mature — costing it extra money by buying back those securities from private investors before they mature. Which is very expensive — better to buy back only matured bonds, which won't be possible until at least 2011.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,96747,00.html

Is it good policy to, borrow money endlessly all the while running up a tab?
Or would it be better to cut back on spending and live within your means all the while paying back your creditors?

question A. depends on how much.  The current deficits are too much. 

question B  no.   

now will you stop fixating on me and demanding I agree with your factless non thread related rhetoric? Fixate on the facts I post then maybe then you wont imagine I posted things I didn’t post.   

no solar, it wasnt hard to answer it again and again.  .  I dont understand your fixation on me.  Lets hope you can know focus on the actual facts.


sorry solar for somebody
who claimed I said something I didnt
who claimed they didnt ask a question they did
who whined when I ignored their loaded question and then only answered it because they cowardly threatened to kick me off the board and then pretended I didnt answer it

you are a poor judge of whats honest.

"he even claimed he ended the recession"

Yes, he has claimed that. Therefore, anything that has gone on since is his. So if the Q1/2013 is negative then the next recession is certainly his. I know it is a little off point, but I thought Solar really swerved into a good point with that comment.

Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.3 percent), adult women (7.3 percent), teenagers (23.4 percent), whites (7.0 percent), blacks (13.8 percent), and Hispanics (9.7 percent) showed little or no change in January. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.5 percent (not seasonally adjusted), little changed from a year earlier.

In January, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was about unchanged at 4.7 million and accounted for 38.1 percent of the unemployed.

A bright spot is mining employment, which increased (+6,000) over the month; employment in this industry has risen by 23,000 over the past 3 months.

Employment edged down in transportation and warehousing in January (-14,000). Couriers and messengers lost 19,000 jobs over the month, following strong seasonal hiring in
November and December. Air transportation employment decreased by 5,000 in January.

what a mish mosh of delusional BS. I make clear points and I back them up.  For instance,  I documented the Bush policies from 2004 that encouraged funded and protected the Bush Mortgage Bubble. I've pointed out that bush's regulators not only didnt stop it, they encourgaged the banks to lower their lending standards.  Bush controlled the regulators. He's responsible.  to call that vague is beyond delusional.   Tell us about that "dim bill' you vaguely referred to.

President Obama ended the recession.  the dates are documented. It ended May 2009.  who knows what you believe because you've only mocked my statements. talk about vague.   

to say "a mess that is increasing getting worse" is only empty rhetoric and laughable.  And of course vague.  You want to complain about UE, go right ahead. And to scream we need to cut 1.1 trillion in spending in one thread and then complain about UE in this thread show an incredible lack of knowledge.  Here's a better link for UE. It has a graph. When does it look like UE started shooting up like a rocket?  (2 things. That is a straightforward question and I dont expect you to answer.) 

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Yes President Obama is spending more than he takes in. I've also clearly documented the effect of the Great Bush Recession's effect on revenue and spending.   

Do what I do. make a point and back it up.  If you dispute something I've said. dont 'paraphrase it'. cut and paste it and attempt to explain why its not true. You ranting that is not true proves nothing.

what a mish mosh of delusional BS. I make clear points and I back them up.  For instance,  I documented the Bush policies from 2004 that encouraged funded and protected the Bush Mortgage Bubble. I've pointed out that bush's regulators not only didnt stop it, they encourgaged the banks to lower their lending standards.  Bush controlled the regulators. He's responsible.  to call that vague is beyond delusional.   Tell us about that "dim bill' you vaguely referred to.

President Obama ended the recession.  the dates are documented. It ended May 2009.  who knows what you believe because you've only mocked my statements. talk about vague.   
Oh jeez, do you have a comprehension issue?
I said:
Take a stance, admit Husein can do no wrong, he even claimed he ended the recession, so from that point forward he owns this mess, a mess that is increasingly getting worse."

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to say "a mess that is increasing getting worse" is only empty rhetoric and laughable.  And of course vague.  You want to complain about UE, go right ahead. And to scream we need to cut 1.1 trillion in spending in one thread and then complain about UE in this thread show an incredible lack of knowledge.  Here's a better link for UE. It has a graph. When does it look like UE started shooting up like a rocket?  (2 things. That is a straightforward question and I dont expect you to answer.)

 
Seriously, are you really that biased and delusional?
The UE numbers show it's rising again, more people on food stamps than at anytime in history, gas on the rise again.
Shall I go on?

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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Yes President Obama is spending more than he takes in. I've also clearly documented the effect of the Great Bush Recession's effect on revenue and spending.   

Do what I do. make a point and back it up.  If you dispute something I've said. dont 'paraphrase it'. cut and paste it and attempt to explain why its not true. You ranting that is not true proves nothing.

And that's your argument, that it's all Bush's fault?

What a load of shit! Posting a link by the Govt to show revision of the previous POTUS is exactly what I would expect from this regime.
Monthly Labor Review • March 2009 That should read Revision...
Case in point, read the Bush admin narrative and compare yours to this one, and note yours
 makes quite clear a recession occurred, yet while under Bush there was no mention of a recession.

I'm not saying your link is wrong, and mine is right, what I'm saying is both are twisting and spinning the numbers to their own benefit.
Just reading the opening statement of both should prove my point, Bush admin is doing a bit of glossing, while Husein admin is doing a lot of finger point.
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2008/03/art2full.pdf

Well, I've conceded several times that Bush was far less than perfect. But there ain't a damned thing you can say or do to prove that Obama is not worse.

Besides, democrats have had substantial, (if not full), control since 2006. Blaming it all on Bush is losing steam fast.

But there ain't a damned thing you can say or do to prove that Obama is not worse.