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I guess, according to Vern, we need to tell Harry Reid that the fiscal cliff was a boogie man. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50305493/ns/business-careers/#.UQlZiL_LTXc
Yet somehow killing industry is going to grow the economy?
So tell me again, how he is cutting spending?
You live in La La land, unless we cut spending, there is no such thing as balancing the budget.What part of wasting nearly a trillion on a failed energy policy and killing the coal industry, do you not understand?
You do not direct this thread let alone forum, nor do you dictate who answers what questions.However, I asked you a question and you completely ignored it, not wise.So let me ask, do you think Husein is using good policy to print money, borrow money endlessly all the while running up the tab?Or would it be better to cut back on spending and live within your means all the while paying back your creditors?It really is a simple question, no catch, no twist of words, just a straight forward question.
solar, I have mostly ignored you because your questions made no sense. In this question, your 'assumption' is that President Obama is killing industry. My 401k begs to differ. Guess who cut my 401k value in half? (its rhetorical)this question makes no absolutely no sense because I made no such claim. I even explained to you clearly how you were not following the point. Here you arguing a point nobody made and I’m not even sure it’s a question.Well now I understand your threat. I ignored it because I’m so used to pubs lashing out angrily to people speaking the truth, I paid it no mind (its what Jesus did). Again its not thread related and its not related to anything I posted so I ignored it. Its not a straightforward question because President Obama is not borrowing money “endlessly”. He’s reduced the deficit every year (as function of GDP) . And like all pubs you conveniently blame President Obama for FY 2009. Again its not straightforward but yes, I agree with President Obama's policy of reducing the deficit prudently while growing the economy/ And I’ve already answered your second question. To “live within out means”, in 2009, that would have required a 1.2 spending cut. That is the budget deficit President Obama inherited. And I answered it by saying if 300 billion in tax increases and 300 billion spending cuts is a fiscal cliff, what's a 1.2 trillion dollar spending cut. (I implied it was bad. kram understood the point)
now kram, before you get out of the market, I have to remind you that another pub 'narrative' from 2009 was the market was going to zero. I saw no fundemental basis justifying the drop from 8000 down to 6500 (jan 2009 to mid March). But certain 'conservatives' were screaming the end of the world. "Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the Dow "http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629969453946717.htmlthis is the perfect example of why you shouldnt get your info from editorials and especially not 'con' editorials. IN case you missed it, this 'editorial' was 6 weeks into President Obama's first term. And it seemed to miss the 6000 point drop associated with that market crash. As far as fundementals go, the housing glut is hitting bottom (or has already). This recovery has had no 'housing' component. So if you assume housing will now contribute to the economy, there is no reason to assume its a bubble.
I try to pay attention, and I find it ironic that Obama ran for his first term, on finding and punishing corrupt bankers and Wall St people. Here we are today; not only have no arrests been made, but Obama points to Wall St as the sure sign of a recovering economy.
Oh Jeezus what a mess!First off he hasn't had a budget in 3 years, so how can you say he isn't wasting money, and all you have is 2009?Does Qe3 mean anything to you, auto bailout, nearly a trillion to green energy bull shit, giving money to Chinese industry, extending unemployment, food stamps.Absolutely none of that has been or ever will be paid back.And you have the audacity to tell me he is balancing the budget? Maybe it works in the liberal world, but inflation is about to bite us in the ass and all you can do is say you agree with his overspending policy, a policy that is wrecking the economy.And yes he did kill the coal industry, just like he said he would, which is driving energy prices even higher.Are you really so biased that you can't see the damage he's doing, that is, unless you're a Fabian socialist just like him?
Oh dear. Vera's jaw has come off....
Yet he claims that somehow out of all that spending, with a country in the depths of an extended depression, he is balancing the budget.I love how he has to go back three years to make an argument, as you pointed out.
We're debating stuff we debated years ago. It's just as boring the second time around...
I get tired of libs and the Bush blaming scenario, Bush did a shit load of liberal crap, but he wasn't trying to destroy the country, unlike our current imposter in chief.Hell, I didn't even like Bush, but I can honestly say I hate Husein, even Carter is a distant second on stupid compared to Husein.
I can't figure this cat out. Is she 12? Dumb? or lazy....
with a country in the depths of an extended depression, he is balancing the budget.