Author Topic: the "supposed" fiscal cliff  (Read 3602 times)

Offline TowardLiberty

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2013, 06:25:35 PM »
Viewing politics, the economy, money, taxes, spending, and war through the partisan lense provided by the media, culture and the powers that be, is a sure path to being forever distracted and confused.

The parties are the same.

Money is debt.

And politics is theatre.
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2013, 06:53:33 PM »
Viewing politics, the economy, money, taxes, spending, and war through the partisan lense provided by the media, culture and powers that be, is a sure path to being forever distracted and confused.

The parties are the same.

Money is debt.

And politics is theatre.
True, and by design.
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2013, 07:02:08 PM »
True, and by design.

No doubt.

The best thing I ever did, or one of them, was completely tuning out of mainstream tv.

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2013, 07:12:52 PM »
No doubt.

The best thing I ever did, or one of them, was completely tuning out of mainstream tv.
Same here, it is pablum for the masses, anyway those so ignorant they haven't the ability to discern truth.
I'm always amazed to hear people parrot the nightly news as if they said something intelligent. Even the video of the days events is so heavily edited, you don't know what the truth is.

One thing I used to do in my 30s was turn down the sound and watch just the emotion being presented, all in a way to sway the individual to their side, by repeating certain clips for maximum emotional effect.
I haven't watched network news in nearly a decade, maybe a few times just to see how bad it had gotten, and yes, it's gotten worse.
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is he wordsmithing? or just dumb?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2013, 03:59:40 AM »

Vern, easy question. How did we get to the point of a fiscal cliff?
And don't even say Bush's Fault". :rolleyes:

No wonder you don't understand the subject, you have a serious comprehension issue.
I never asked you any such question, but nice attempt at a dodge with an insult.
Now pay close attention, I'll pote it again.

Now, can you answer that without a dodge this time?
It may be your last chance.

as I clearly pointed out, we got to the fiscal cliff because republicans created a fake crisis about raising the debt limit. they have an ignorant base to pander to.  So they have to talk tough, shuffle some papers and act angry.   

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2013, 04:29:03 AM »
Vern clearly has no intention of answering Solar's question. Typical.
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2013, 04:53:47 AM »
Vern clearly has no intention of answering Solar's question. Typical.

Vern has a bad case of tunnel vision. His hatred of republicans prevents him from seeing the larger picture. :wink:

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Re: is he wordsmithing? or just dumb?
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2013, 05:18:58 AM »
as I clearly pointed out, we got to the fiscal cliff because republicans created a fake crisis about raising the debt limit. they have an ignorant base to pander to.  So they have to talk tough, shuffle some papers and act angry.
Vern, I know this is probably a stupid question, considering you're a lib, but is it pure bias that prohibits you from seeing any fault from those on the left, or simply the fact that you're a dumb fuck?

I Never Asked Who Was To Blame. Get that through your thick skull!

Now I will ask one last time for an honest answer, do you think Husein is using good policy to print money, borrow money endlessly all the while running up the tab?
Or would it be better to cut back on spending and live within your means all the while paying back your creditors?

It really is a simple question, no catch, no twist of words, just a straight forward question.
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2013, 05:39:04 AM »
Vern has a bad case of tunnel vision. His hatred of republicans prevents him from seeing the larger picture. :wink:
Oh, I think he sees it quite clearly, and an honest debater would answer it, but Vernice is not an honest person, even claims the right are all ignorant and easily led.

When quite the opposite is true and Vernice is a glaring example of the blind and ignorant allegiance that is the majority of the left.
I love when these idiots show their hypocrisy and willing sacrifice to the Marxist, it only strengthens our case that the Free market system is the best system when Govt stays out of it.
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I dont mind the cursing. I know the withdrawl from fantasy can be hard on pubs
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2013, 09:13:45 AM »

I Never Asked Who Was To Blame. Get that through your thick skull!


Actually it was the only thread related question you asked.

Vern, easy question. How did we get to the point of a fiscal cliff?
And don't even say Bush's Fault". :rolleyes:

Mmmm, as I’m kinda new to the forum, what constitutes a ‘lie’ around here.  Seems like he did ask me.  Anyhoo I first interpreted it as “who’s to blame”. Solar whined and whined so I interpreted it as “why we had a fiscal cliff.”  My answer is the same, republicans created a fake crisis about raising the debt limit. 

And that’s another problem with questions especially from solar. He cant post a clear statement and now his questions are vague and dont have defintive answers. (geez it took taxed 3 posts to get his simple question straight). Questions are just a timesuck used by people who really have no clue. As far as your other question solar, besides not being thread related, its based on a mish mosh of lies, spin and whatever personal delusions you have.  So no you silly silly pub, its not a straight forward question. 

Here are some simple guidelines  to follow to make your make your learning process faster (and more fun)

Make clear simple points and back them up
Don’t ask questions (other than rhetorical)
Stop making it about me.

Whats funny solar is all three of those quidelines preclude you from posting.

Offline supsalemgr

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Actually it was the only thread related question you asked.

Mmmm, as I’m kinda new to the forum, what constitutes a ‘lie’ around here.  Seems like he did ask me.  Anyhoo I first interpreted it as “who’s to blame”. Solar whined and whined so I interpreted it as “why we had a fiscal cliff.”  My answer is the same, republicans created a fake crisis about raising the debt limit. 

And that’s another problem with questions especially from solar. He cant post a clear statement and now his questions are vague and dont have defintive answers. (geez it took taxed 3 posts to get his simple question straight). Questions are just a timesuck used by people who really have no clue. As far as your other question solar, besides not being thread related, its based on a mish mosh of lies, spin and whatever personal delusions you have.  So no you silly silly pub, its not a straight forward question. 

Here are some simple guidelines  to follow to make your make your learning process faster (and more fun)

Make clear simple points and back them up
Don’t ask questions (other than rhetorical)
Stop making it about me.

Whats funny solar is all three of those quidelines preclude you from posting.

Me thinks Vern enjoys chasing his own tail.
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2013, 09:39:21 AM »
I guess, according to Vern, we need to tell Harry Reid that the fiscal cliff was a boogie man.  :rolleyes:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50305493/ns/business-careers/#.UQlZiL_LTXc

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top Democrat in the Senate warned on Thursday that the United States looks to be headed over the "fiscal cliff" of tax hikes and spending cuts that will start next week if squabbling politicians do not reach a deal.
Majority Leader Harry Reid told the Senate in a speech that "it looks like that is where we're headed.
He called on the Republicans who control the House of Representatives to prevent the worst of the fiscal shock by getting behind a Senate bill to extend existing tax cuts for all except those households earning more than $250,000 a year.


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Me thinks Vern enjoys chasing his own tail.
Vernice knows that answering, throws his argument in the trash, unless he lies, then he looks like the fool he is.
Is it a catch 22? Probably, but that's how honest debate works, and if he is unwilling to debate honestly, then I see no reason to allow him to continue polluting the forum.
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Vernice knows that answering, throws his argument in the trash, unless he lies, then he looks like the fool he is.
Is it a catch 22? Probably, but that's how honest debate works, and if he is unwilling to debate honestly, then I see no reason to allow him to continue polluting the forum.

Agree
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Agree
Sad, I really hate booting people, but we demand the same honesty from the Right, I see no reason to bend the rules for the left, even though that's what they're used to.

I'll wait for his response, though I expect more of the tap dancing tail chasing act.
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