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Offline Vern

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2013, 02:14:43 PM »
er uh solar, you've yet to get the point.  kram got it (I didnt realize it the first time I read it).   The thread is about the fiscal cliff. Its not about energy, coal or green initiatives.

anyhoo, I  asked about the 'fiscal cliff of insanity' that republicans screamed we needed in 2009.  Republicans knew "cutting spending" was not an option in that economy.  That type of spending cut would almost guarantee a depression.  what does that say about them? The only two conclusions are 1 they are dangerously stupid or 2 they assumed their base was stupid.  Why would anybody support such ignorance or deceit?
 
I have to assume others also get the point and that explains the lack of posts in response to my posts. 

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2013, 02:34:34 PM »
er uh solar, you've yet to get the point.  kram got it (I didnt realize it the first time I read it).   The thread is about the fiscal cliff. Its not about energy, coal or green initiatives.

anyhoo, I  asked about the 'fiscal cliff of insanity' that republicans screamed we needed in 2009.  Republicans knew "cutting spending" was not an option in that economy.  That type of spending cut would almost guarantee a depression.  what does that say about them? The only two conclusions are 1 they are dangerously stupid or 2 they assumed their base was stupid.  Why would anybody support such ignorance or deceit?
 
I have to assume others also get the point and that explains the lack of posts in response to my posts.

In 2009 pubs, headed by Paul Ryan, proposed freezing any raise in spending for five years.  A moot point however since Demonrats were in control of both house and senate.  They didn't pass that, or any budget since.  You have no point, you are not getting responses because you are a Bush banger, and you are boring beyond belief.  Your talking points and distortions are nothing new here.  Boring, boring, boring.

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 03:02:34 PM »
er uh solar, you've yet to get the point.  kram got it (I didnt realize it the first time I read it).   The thread is about the fiscal cliff. Its not about energy, coal or green initiatives.

anyhoo, I  asked about the 'fiscal cliff of insanity' that republicans screamed we needed in 2009.  Republicans knew "cutting spending" was not an option in that economy.  That type of spending cut would almost guarantee a depression.  what does that say about them? The only two conclusions are 1 they are dangerously stupid or 2 they assumed their base was stupid.  Why would anybody support such ignorance or deceit?
 
I have to assume others also get the point and that explains the lack of posts in response to my posts.
You are looking like a fool, you are blaming the tire for losing air, instead of the nail creating the puncture.
I really don't give a damn about your warped myopic view on the issue, the problem is OVERSPENDING, can you get that through your tiny little brain for a second?

One other point, sentences start with Capital letters.

Now why does it even matter what either party does, until they cut spending?
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 03:09:37 PM »
In 2009 pubs, headed by Paul Ryan, proposed freezing any raise in spending for five years.  A moot point however since Demonrats were in control of both house and senate.  They didn't pass that, or any budget since.  You have no point, you are not getting responses because you are a Bush banger, and you are boring beyond belief.  Your talking points and distortions are nothing new here.  Boring, boring, boring.
But facts are irrelevant when he delves into one tiny issue, the fact that the Dims skirted the Constitution for four years is of no consequence, it's somehow the fault of the GOP, regardless of construct.
He completely ignores the reason we are even discussing the fiscal cliff, the fact that Husein spent more than any POTUS in history, is of no importance.
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wasnt that nice of me to answer your question
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 03:16:46 PM »
In 2009 pubs, headed by Paul Ryan, proposed freezing any raise in spending for five years.  A moot point however since Demonrats were in control of both house and senate.  They didn't pass that, or any budget since.  You have no point, you are not getting responses because you are a Bush banger, and you are boring beyond belief.  Your talking points and distortions are nothing new here.  Boring, boring, boring.

sari kari, the official pub proposal was to limit spending increases to inflation for the the non defense discretionary budget.  Also I'll need lots of liquor to try to make me forget pub and pub screaming we needed to cut spending at the peak of the Great Bush Recession.  Every day at the other forums I visit pub after pub screamed "WE HAVE TO CUT SPENDING" " THE WORLD IS ENDING" " THE DOLLAR WILL COLLAPSE" "WE'LL HAVE RUNAWAY INFLATION" "DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER"

oh and the answer to your question is its the "supposed fiscal cliff" because economists are just pretty sure it would have caused a recession.  The automatic tax increases and spending cuts were real.  The effect of them was the "supposed" part.   The fact that you didnt get that proves you too thought it would cause a recession. that explains why you are now trying to spin away the republican narrative at the peak of the Great Bush Recession to "oh, pubs were only talking about a spending freeze"

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 03:31:18 PM »
National Propaganda Radio says going over the cliff would be good.

http://www.npr.org/2012/12/06/166650238/why-a-fiscal-cliff-failure-could-help-the-economy

I'm sure the illegal failure to pass a budget in the senate didn't help matters. Who would that be?

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2013, 03:43:08 PM »
Vern, easy question. How did we get to the point of a fiscal cliff?
And don't even say Bush's Fault". :rolleyes:
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2013, 04:26:34 PM »
There should be a rule against posting outdated talking points...

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2013, 08:27:49 PM »
There should be a rule against posting outdated talking points...
We do have a rule regarding stupid though.
But most usually figure that one out on their own, though, some apparently aren't smart enough to realize just how big of a fool they truly are.

He seems nice enough, just very well informed though. :rolleyes:
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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2013, 09:09:43 PM »
We do have a rule regarding stupid though.
But most usually figure that one out on their own, though, some apparently aren't smart enough to realize just how big of a fool they truly are.

He seems nice enough, just very well informed though. :rolleyes:

er uh solar.  :popcorn:
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try to focus people.
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2013, 03:35:51 AM »
Vern, easy question. How did we get to the point of a fiscal cliff?
And don't even say Bush's Fault". :rolleyes:

the deficits are bush's fault.  the 'fiscal cliff' is house republican's fault. 

"To recap:

1) House Republicans created a fake crisis around the debt ceiling.
 2) House Republicans demanded spending cuts, and the creation of a Supercommittee to end their fake crisis
 3) House Republicans undermined the Supercommittee negotiations, causing the committee to fail
 4) House Republicans are now trying to blame President Obama for the automatic spending cuts triggered by the Supercommittee failure.

None of this ever would’ve come to pass if Repubicans hadn’t created the fake debt ceiling crisis in the first place. They set this thing in motion, and now they own it.
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National Propaganda Radio says going over the cliff would be good.

there's that thing again when pubs really want to believe something it must be true.  A guy on NPR said it might be good because it "the lack of a deal would do a lot to help erase the federal deficit." He didnt deny the possibility of a recession.  Thats his opinion. See how your brain thinks it means its NPR's opinion.  Oh thats right, you guys are used to fox and the other 'conservative entertainment sources'. Their stuff is scripted but you think its real.

Now what does any of that have to do with pub after pub screaming to cut spending to balance the budget at the peak of the Great Bush Recession?

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Re: the "supposed" fiscal cliff
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2013, 04:26:43 AM »
er uh solar.  :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was too hungry to be posting. Damn stomach, brain connection thing.
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Re: try to focus people.
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2013, 04:37:08 AM »
the deficits are bush's fault.  the 'fiscal cliff' is house republican's fault. 

"To recap:

1) House Republicans created a fake crisis around the debt ceiling.
 2) House Republicans demanded spending cuts, and the creation of a Supercommittee to end their fake crisis
 3) House Republicans undermined the Supercommittee negotiations, causing the committee to fail
 4) House Republicans are now trying to blame President Obama for the automatic spending cuts triggered by the Supercommittee failure.

None of this ever would’ve come to pass if Repubicans hadn’t created the fake debt ceiling crisis in the first place. They set this thing in motion, and now they own it.
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there's that thing again when pubs really want to believe something it must be true.  A guy on NPR said it might be good because it "the lack of a deal would do a lot to help erase the federal deficit." He didnt deny the possibility of a recession.  Thats his opinion. See how your brain thinks it means its NPR's opinion.  Oh thats right, you guys are used to fox and the other 'conservative entertainment sources'. Their stuff is scripted but you think its real.

Now what does any of that have to do with pub after pub screaming to cut spending to balance the budget at the peak of the Great Bush Recession?
So all that borrowing before Bush and after Bush is totally irrelevant?
What special kind of idiot is so blind, that reality can't seep in through that blindfold you wear?

I swear, you are now starting to look like you have a serious mental disorder, and I mean that.
Think about it for just a moment, let this sink in, the Husein administration never once in the first term presented a budget, yet somehow, in your warped world, Bush caused Husein's trillion dollar deficits?

Come on man, no single individual is that stupid or biased, even we here know quite well both party's are to blame for the deficit, not one single individual.

Are you two people? Because no person by them self is this stupid.
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oh, its called a 'freudian slip'
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2013, 02:27:33 PM »
solar, thanks for proving a theory I had about you. You asked who I blamed for the Fiscal Cliff (congrats on your first thread related post).  I show it's the house republicans fault and magic presto, you try to make the thread about me. 

keep up the work

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Re: oh, its called a 'freudian slip'
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2013, 06:16:15 PM »
solar, thanks for proving a theory I had about you. You asked who I blamed for the Fiscal Cliff (congrats on your first thread related post).  I show it's the house republicans fault and magic presto, you try to make the thread about me. 

keep up the work
No wonder you don't understand the subject, you have a serious comprehension issue.
I never asked you any such question, but nice attempt at a dodge with an insult.
Now pay close attention, I'll pote it again.


I asked you a question and you completely ignored it, not wise.

So let me ask, do you think Husein is using good policy to print money, borrow money endlessly all the while running up the tab?
Or would it be better to cut back on spending and live within your means all the while paying back your creditors?

It really is a simple question, no catch, no twist of words, just a straight forward question.


Now, can you answer that without a dodge this time?
It may be your last chance.
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