Minimum Wage, a Job Killer

Started by Solar, June 27, 2017, 09:47:29 AM

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supsalemgr

Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2017, 05:17:22 AM
Exactly..
And as history proves, raising min wage drives manufacturing jobs away to countries with lower wages.
Is their standard of living lower than us? I see France and the UK make a fourth less than we do, yet their standard of living is on par with ours or those in Spain.
Yeah, all the min wage increase does is force business to cut labor another way, which usually entails cutting a need for labor, be it mechanizing or completely changing the way one does business as this guy proposes removing wait staff and adding runners.

God Dims are stupid!

And they are so tied to their leftist mentality they will not change. All the better for us. I once had a boss that told me to be thankful for people like this as it eliminates your competition.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 15, 2017, 05:29:31 AM
And they are so tied to their leftist mentality they will not change. All the better for us. I once had a boss that told me to be thankful for people like this as it eliminates your competition.
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Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
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God, he's soo Right...
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Think about this. The world of opportunity for millennials is unbelievable. An enterprising millennial has so much less competition with all the snowflakes out there who believed their professors. 
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Hoofer

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 15, 2017, 05:29:31 AM
And they are so tied to their leftist mentality they will not change. All the better for us. I once had a boss that told me to be thankful for people like this as it eliminates your competition.

I saw a sign at an event, long time ago - they were selling a bunch of plaques with fancy painting and some pithy sayings.
Written on paper, next to everything they were marketing:  "Sure you can, but will you?"   What a clincher for a sale.

We had some kid visit our display a couple of years in a row, 12-13yrs maybe.  He's quick to tell us he "knows our secret" and "anyone can do that".   seriously, I doubt he's cost us a single cent in business... maybe even attracted a few more customers with his rant!

As I've told my kids, over and over, don't worry about keeping up with the crowd, being one of them - they're our customer base, our goal is to empty their wallets into our cash drawer as quickly and efficiently as possible, with a smile of course.  The really neat thing about it, the kids are earning enough to pay their own way to other events and specialty stuff they really have their sights set on.   I'd much rather have them handle the money from start-to-finish and better themselves, than set a goal to "work for someone" or "get a job".

If I had to pay minimum wage instead of straight commission, I would have gone broke before they figured out how to sell anything.
Now days, If I said, "I'm paying $20 per hour." they'd either quit trying to make sales, or accuse me of trying to screw them out of their "cut of the action."  Smart and confident of their ability - and I'm proud of all of them.

The world of opportunity for the millennial is literally wide open, few of them figure it out - and it's easier today than it's ever been to start & run a successful business.
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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 15, 2017, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
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God, he's soo Right...
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Think about this. The world of opportunity for millennials is unbelievable. An enterprising millennial has so much less competition with all the snowflakes out there who believed their professors.
I have several friends still in business, and they all share the same story. Millennials haven't the first clue about working for a living, they have to be instructed at every turn, whether it's greeting customers (they had to tell them to smile) to if it isn't on a display, put it on one, not any display, but the one it belongs at, if you see trash, pick it up and if you are with a customer, put it in your pocket, Do Not leave the customer, they pay your wage, always be polite to the customer, make eye contact (this is something these kids don't do well, and I suspect it has to do with the web, texting, tuning out in general).

All of these guys pay above min wage because they need to attract people with basic common sense, something lacking in the Internet generation.
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Quote from: Solar on July 15, 2017, 01:01:34 PM
I have several friends still in business, and they all share the same story. Millennials haven't the first clue about working for a living, they have to be instructed at every turn, whether it's greeting customers (they had to tell them to smile) to if it isn't on a display, put it on one, not any display, but the one it belongs at, if you see trash, pick it up and if you are with a customer, put it in your pocket, Do Not leave the customer, they pay your wage, always be polite to the customer, make eye contact (this is something these kids don't do well, and I suspect it has to do with the web, texting, tuning out in general).

All of these guys pay above min wage because they need to attract people with basic common sense, something lacking in the Internet generation.

Those are minimum expectations - the eye contact is from a lack of socialization.   Funny that Government School Educators parrot that line, "Homeschoolers won't be properly socialized...", yet they (homeschoolers) are noted as "well adjusted & socialized - making eye contact in conversations.." - unlike their Gov. School counterparts.  We've heard it over and over, "your kids look at us, face to face when we talk to them...", like it's unnatural...?  :blink:

There might be a bright side to jacking up minimum wages - it'll spur robotic technology development as a replacement to the entry level job.  The new entry level job could be tearing out old robots for new robots ... the kids literally work for robots.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Solar

Quote from: Hoofer on July 16, 2017, 04:23:06 AM
Those are minimum expectations - the eye contact is from a lack of socialization.   Funny that Government School Educators parrot that line, "Homeschoolers won't be properly socialized...", yet they (homeschoolers) are noted as "well adjusted & socialized - making eye contact in conversations.." - unlike their Gov. School counterparts.  We've heard it over and over, "your kids look at us, face to face when we talk to them...", like it's unnatural...?  :blink:

There might be a bright side to jacking up minimum wages - it'll spur robotic technology development as a replacement to the entry level job.  The new entry level job could be tearing out old robots for new robots ... the kids literally work for robots.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
How sad is that? That having simple expectations of human interaction as a prerequisite, something our generation took for granted amongst normal people, is suddenly in demand and scarce amongst an entire generation entering the workforce?
Can this nation survive, or will it become the norm to no longer make eye contact, greet people with a cordial comment without being accused of "Invading Their Space"?
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Maybe food preparation is better left to robots ... just thinking of stuff kids will do to food, when their pissed off about something.

http://www.ranker.com/list/grossest-fast-food-chain-employee-moments/derrick920

This kind of stuff is lawsuit territory  - but with a robot preparing your food, it all ends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQqTGBsr_RI

Some people just can't get it together, too busy trying to be "cool" or something than responsible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHZXL93ERk0


Yesterday, I got a drive-thru meal at a pretty famous Steak n Milkshake place...   Burger was excellent, fries were great, and the soda tasted like Dr. Mold... I immediately dumped it.  That's the only thing I worry about, someone not bothering to clean the machines.  People must be so busy trying to keep the visible surfaces clean, the stuff that actually touches the food / drink gets passed over.   And that's what can really make you sick in a hurry, a soda machine growing all kinds of crap.
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Well it goes hand and hand, liberal states want to raise minimum wage and liberal states are pro union.(usually) But the people working minimum wage are not campaign donors but the unions are the big donors,,,,, so  https://www.unionfacts.com/article/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Union_Minimum_Wage_report.pdf   dims push for a policy that helps no one buts gets the liberal media a great story to push about the all caring dims and we see a win win for the dims. Raise minimum wage and union wages go up, dues $ increases donations go up, and the poor, once again we see they do not care about who gets hurt just as long as they look good.  We do not see much push in Texas for minimum wage (except in the liberal waste land known as Travis county) because we do not have any strong unions (imho). Maybe we could start a list of liberal programs that helped the poor as promised. Here I'll start...


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maybe someone else should start, I'm drawing a blank.

Hoofer

One of the reasons why government LIKES the idea of raising the minimum wage - it's more likely to move more people into taxation.   Nothing to do with raising their standard of living, everything to do with getting them on the tax rolls.

The money they make the more they can spend, sales tax revenue increases.
If they start making more money, sooner or later, they're more likely to finally hit the state and federal taxation levels.

If these politicians said, "We demand you get paid $30 per hour, a livable wage!!!"   Know this for sure, they've already figured you'll be in the 15% tax bracket, without enough deductions to add up to anything, and you'll probably lose any government support programs - YES! 

Greater taxation, by the miracle of inflation!  That's about the only thing, Financially, a politician can understand, sucking money out of the private sector is good for them, not you.
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