Make $100,000 Working at Taco Bell

Started by Solar, January 09, 2020, 10:42:51 AM

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Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
Not so fast, you don't just dismiss everyone and run off after coming out for a Marxist system, not on this forum, you don't.

I gave you two examples of what you're advocating, I want to know how you plan to make this BS work.
He is after the plan, having it work doesn't matter. Using the liberal paradise, San Fransisco, it does not matter that people are sleeping in the streets, crapping on the side walk, liberals are in charge of the city and the state. You can line up 10 capitalist countries and compare them to 10 socialist countries and see which system works and which system does not. Does not matter, the plan is more important than what works. I watch from a distance,, but Austin if full of his kind of thinking. Property taxes are driving out the young families, here is one of the fastest growing places in the U.S. and Austin has to close schools due to lack of kids. Families can not afford to pay the taxes, and yet they vote for every damn bond issue like "light rail" that comes up because it is for a good liberal cause.  The citizens of Austin will bitch and moan about their property taxes, and then vote in another liberal council. There is a lot in this world that can be fixed, being and acting stupid will not get it done.

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Quote from: s3779m on January 17, 2020, 11:14:47 AM
He is after the plan, having it work doesn't matter. Using the liberal paradise, San Fransisco, it does not matter that people are sleeping in the streets, crapping on the side walk, liberals are in charge of the city and the state. You can line up 10 capitalist countries and compare them to 10 socialist countries and see which system works and which system does not. Does not matter, the plan is more important than what works. I watch from a distance,, but Austin if full of his kind of thinking. Property taxes are driving out the young families, here is one of the fastest growing places in the U.S. and Austin has to close schools due to lack of kids. Families can not afford to pay the taxes, and yet they vote for every damn bond issue like "light rail" that comes up because it is for a good liberal cause.  The citizens of Austin will bitch and moan about their property taxes, and then vote in another liberal council. There is a lot in this world that can be fixed, being and acting stupid will not get it done.

Just to add a little humor to this thread. Allegiant Air has just announced new direct flights between Asheville and Austin. Now one can fly from San Francisco East to San Francisco Southwest without changing planes.  :smile:
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Quote from: supsalemgr on January 17, 2020, 11:46:48 AM
Just to add a little humor to this thread. Allegiant Air has just announced new direct flights between Asheville and Austin. Now one can fly from San Francisco East to San Francisco Southwest without changing planes.  :smile:
Wonder if that airline has indoor plumbing? I don't think Austin or San Fransisco have indoor plumbing downtown.

Solar

Quote from: s3779m on January 17, 2020, 11:14:47 AM
He is after the plan, having it work doesn't matter. Using the liberal paradise, San Fransisco, it does not matter that people are sleeping in the streets, crapping on the side walk, liberals are in charge of the city and the state. You can line up 10 capitalist countries and compare them to 10 socialist countries and see which system works and which system does not. Does not matter, the plan is more important than what works. I watch from a distance,, but Austin if full of his kind of thinking. Property taxes are driving out the young families, here is one of the fastest growing places in the U.S. and Austin has to close schools due to lack of kids. Families can not afford to pay the taxes, and yet they vote for every damn bond issue like "light rail" that comes up because it is for a good liberal cause.  The citizens of Austin will bitch and moan about their property taxes, and then vote in another liberal council. There is a lot in this world that can be fixed, being and acting stupid will not get it done.
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Quote from: joesixpack on January 17, 2020, 06:36:25 AM
I answered that question for you in post 75

Still waiting on your living wage definition.  "Just make muh comfy" isn't a definition.
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Quote from: taxed on January 17, 2020, 12:41:00 PM
Still waiting on your living wage definition.  "Just make muh comfy" isn't a definition.
Ya gotta luv that "Cradle To Grave" bull shit!
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Quote from: joesixpack on January 17, 2020, 07:03:13 AM
Why do roofers/construction workers do freelance work?
Because there's an abundance of them because of the insane workers' compensation requirements.

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Because they get paid more for it than by working directly with their companies.
Because of the extra employment costs.

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I know. I've asked plenty of guys and I get most all my work done that way.
I know, because I lived it as a business owner.  You don't know what workers' compensation is.

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Maybe the business man should pay his employees more so that they don't undercut him. Or provide benefits or something...
Maybe the employee should work for less.
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Quote from: taxed on January 17, 2020, 12:47:13 PM
Because there's an abundance of them because of the insane workers' compensation requirements.
Because of the extra employment costs.
I know, because I lived it as a business owner.  You don't know what workers' compensation is.
Maybe the employee should work for less.
He blames NY and Seattle business closings because they were on the verge of closing anyway, thing is, as you point out, workers comp is a killer of many jobs.
An employer has to consider the cost when making new hires, it's not as if his only expense is paying them a wage, there is a ton of paperwork involved, investment in a new hire, workers comp is very expensive. The owner takes all the risk, and here the govt comes in and ups the wage?
How is it possible for libs to grasp the fact that pulling 15% profit can be a good thing, but raise Min Wage 30%, and they blame the business for being poorly run.  :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Solar on January 17, 2020, 12:55:53 PM
He blames NY and Seattle business closings because they were on the verge of closing anyway, thing is, as you point out, workers comp is a killer of many jobs.
An employer has to consider the cost when making new hires, it's not as if his only expense is paying them a wage, there is a ton of paperwork involved, investment in a new hire, workers comp is very expensive. The owner takes all the risk, and here the govt comes in and ups the wage?
How is it possible for libs to grasp the fact that pulling 15% profit can be a good thing, but raise Min Wage 30%, and they blame the business for being poorly run.  :rolleyes:

This is why I absolutely despise Bernie supporters.  Their complete disdain for business owners is beyond pathetic and anti-American.  Someone works hard on a business, gets financing together, probably gets money from family member and loved ones, creates a few jobs, builds a brand with the community and a reputation, probably seen servers come in young and go off to college and the work place, spent countless nights running the registers and crunching the numbers, negotiating with suppliers......

and one day they have to close because of a mandated law that is put in place to kill business.  Joe says "oh well, they're just a restaurant and they would have gone out of business anyway".

What a disgusting piece of shit.
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Quote from: taxed on January 17, 2020, 01:14:37 PM
This is why I absolutely despise Bernie supporters.  Their complete disdain for business owners is beyond pathetic and anti-American.  Someone works hard on a business, gets financing together, probably gets money from family member and loved ones, creates a few jobs, builds a brand with the community and a reputation, probably seen servers come in young and go off to college and the work place, spent countless nights running the registers and crunching the numbers, negotiating with suppliers......

and one day they have to close because of a mandated law that is put in place to kill business.  Joe says "oh well, they're just a restaurant and they would have gone out of business anyway".

What a disgusting piece of shit.
Exactly!!! The nights of staying awake trying to figure out a way to increase traffic, how to eek out a few bucks for advertising, anything that might save a few bucks.
What these idiots fail to understand is, it effects more than one business and a few employees and their families, it effects suppliers as well, they too have to make up for the loss as well.
The impact sends shock waves and when you have several closing in one community, everyone takes a hit, with the exception of the rich libs who are never affected.
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Quote from: joesixpack on January 17, 2020, 07:23:34 AM
Good day. Good conversation.

but just an FYI: that place is already America. The governments (federal, state, and local) here already does all of that to some degree.

I'll leave it at that
You don't just dismiss everyone and run off after coming out for a Marxist system, not on this forum, you don't.

I gave you two examples of what you're advocating, I want to know how you plan to make this BS work.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 06:39:28 PM
So you're advocating for a Soviet style central planning bureaucracy, Right?
And that's fine, problem is, lets assume they pull this off and raise wages across the US. Guess what happens without price controls in place?
Can't fathom that? OK, costs on every product produced skyrockets to the end consumer because the producer has to make it up due to exorbitant wage increases.
So suddenly that living wage is no longer enough to subsist on is it.

See? There are serious ramifications to govt interference in a free mkt. Do you still think it's such a good idea, or are you going to advocate for price freezes first, which comes with its own economy collapsing side effects.

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 07:07:37 PM
Central planning under any name you choose is Marxist. OK, so now you're advocating for central planning since you were able to set a living wage.
How will you save the economy now that industry had to raise their CODB and passed the increases onto the end purchaser, consumer, what will you do to assure the living wage remains intact?

Point is, every time you adjust one part of the economy, you adversely effect another. So how do you plan on fixing your mistake in screwing up the economy, at this point is collapsing.
You see, whether it's food, or transportation, all costs increase, including our ability to sell our over priced products to other countries.

Now, we not only have a collapsed economy, we can't even sell our own crap because no one wants to pay 10 times the price for something  they can get anywhere else in the world for less.
This is the result of central planning as opposed to the free Mkt setting prices.

joesixpack

This thread is 10 pages long and you guys stopped acknowledging my responses.

You won't accept my replies.

The conversation is done. It was fun while it lasted.
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Quote from: joesixpack on January 18, 2020, 05:47:01 AM
This thread is 10 pages long and you guys stopped acknowledging my responses.

You won't accept my replies.

The conversation is done. It was fun while it lasted.

I would say you ended the conversation some time back when you would  not come out and answer questions put to you by more then one poster.   But you had no problems dance all over the place.   Solar is being nice if it were me I give you a two week time out this time. 
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Quote from: joesixpack on January 18, 2020, 05:47:01 AM
This thread is 10 pages long and you guys stopped acknowledging my responses.

You won't accept my replies.

The conversation is done. It was fun while it lasted.
I accepted your replies which is why I asked more questions you decided to ignore.
You do know the point of this "Discussion" forum, Right?
So I guess if you no longer want to discuss, there there's no point in you continuing, Right?
What's it going to be Joe?
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Quote from: walkstall on January 18, 2020, 06:19:22 AM
I would say you ended the conversation some time back when you would  not come out and answer questions put to you by more then one poster.   But you had no problems dance all over the place.   Solar is being nice if it were me I give you a two week time out this time.

Those questions were answered in previous posts, which I cited.

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