Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
That might be so for unions...but only  10% of all employees are in unions. Everyone else just wants to get paid more for their labor.

The point was that is why bernie and warren and other liberals are for the minimum wage. It has nothing to do with workers. or who gets paid. If it was for the workers why would they back a law that would put so many of them out of work?

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
The point was that is why bernie and warren and other liberals are for the minimum wage. It has nothing to do with workers. or who gets paid. If it was for the workers why would they back a law that would put so many of them out of work?

Exactly.  The best thing the unions could do for workers is to fold up shop and go out of business.

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
The point was that is why bernie and warren and other liberals are for the minimum wage. It has nothing to do with workers. or who gets paid. If it was for the workers why would they back a law that would put so many of them out of work?

Except that many States have higher wages and their unemployment levels are on par with the rest of the country.

I've said it here before. I'm not for $15 minimum. But I am for an increase. The only reason Unions exist is because ppl got fed up and got together to demand more from their employers.

If they were making a living wage and being treated fairly they wouldn't feel the need to join or form a union.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:44:54 PM
Except that many States have higher wages and their unemployment levels are on par with the rest of the country.

I've said it here before. I'm not for $15 minimum. But I am for an increase. The only reason Unions exist is because ppl got fed up and got together to demand more from their employers.

If they were making a living wage and being treated fairly they wouldn't feel the need to join or form a union.

Show me one state where minimum wage benefits private business.

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 02:48:55 PM
Show me one state where minimum wage benefits private business.

All of them.

Every single state has minimum wage. And private business still do well.

Show me empirically a state where minimum wage hurts private business.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:44:54 PM
Except that many States have higher wages and their unemployment levels are on par with the rest of the country.

I've said it here before. I'm not for $15 minimum. But I am for an increase. The only reason Unions exist is because ppl got fed up and got together to demand more from their employers.

If they were making a living wage and being treated fairly they wouldn't feel the need to join or form a union.

Because the cost of living is higher. or as in Texas as in other states, the unemployment is so low business had to increase pay to get workers. No one here is against whatever someone earns. However, it is not the governments job to set that rate.

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 02:55:44 PM
Because the cost of living is higher. or as in Texas as in other states, the unemployment is so low business had to increase pay to get workers. No one here is against whatever someone earns. However, it is not the governments job to set that rate.

Alright. So there we have it. I think the local government should set it. You don't think so.

We'll agree to disagree.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:57:58 PM
Alright. So there we have it. I think the local government should set it. You don't think so.

We'll agree to disagree.

Should the government set prices on what you buy?

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:10:15 PM

Last time, answer my point!

"You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee."

My point is, you don't want to address because you know quite well it's a job killer!

Quote from: taxed on January 16, 2020, 02:48:55 PM
Show me one state where minimum wage benefits private business.

Oooh Oooh I know, I Know!!! Pick me... Oh wait, you said help? Never mind.

https://downtrend.com/71superb/seattles-minimum-wage-increase-causing-small-businesses-to-close/

https://fee.org/articles/15-minimum-wage-laws-are-wiping-out-jobs-in-new-york-and-illinois/

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:11:40 PM
Last time, answer my point!

"You still haven't addressed my point about raising a min wage to a living wage and how it will effect the entry level employee."

My point is, you don't want to address because you know quite well it's a job killer!

I don't know if it is or isn't. Do you want to provide some research for me?

Taco Bell could raise their minimum wage with no impact on employment if they so chose. A smaller, less profitable business may not be able to.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 03:19:04 PM
I don't know if it is or isn't. Do you want to provide some research for me?

Taco Bell could raise their minimum wage with no impact on employment if they so chose. A smaller, less profitable business may not be able to.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
A living wage would be around $20 plus an hour in many states. Now ask yourself, if someone is comfortable making that wage, and the company more than likely will be maxed out on openings, how is an entry level kid supposed to get a shot at a job?
There is an answer, and it's been floated for decades. Create an entry level wage half that amount. Problem is, it works and the Dims aren't looking for solutions, Period! No, they need to create as many victims as possible.
When are you going to wake to the fact that all these Marxist policies are not designed to help, only hurt business?

Quote from: s3779m on January 16, 2020, 03:04:12 PM
Should the government set prices on what you buy?

BINGO!!! You just exposed the Leftist Fraud!!

Quote from: Solar on January 16, 2020, 03:26:14 PM
BINGO!!! You just exposed the Leftist Fraud!!

There are examples in the world what happens when the government sets wage and price controls such as nixon did. None have a happy ending. I have to say one thing for evil capitalist nations such as South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, Switzerland, Australia, and the worst one, the U.S., the standard of living is very high DESPITE government interference not because of it.

Quote from: joesixpack on January 16, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
All of them.

Every single state has minimum wage. And private business still do well.

Show me empirically a state where minimum wage hurts private business.

Show me one state where minimum wage helps private business.