Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2020, 04:58:59 PM
No Joe, you have yet to answer the question. Last chance!

Public opinion: For all the polls proclaiming mass public mistrust of government and for all the bad-mouthing of Washington, most Americans want the very government benefits and programs that the post-1960 federal government has enacted. The only thing that a near-majority of Americans wants to cut is foreign aid, which is not even static on the static in the federal budget adding machine.

Lobbying by the proxies: State and local governments and their governors associations, mayors associations, state legislatures, corrections commissioners, and more; big and small business lobbies; and, yes, nonprofit sector lawyer-lobbyists—all three federal proxies exert nonstop pressure in favor of federal policies that pay them to administer federal business, with as few strings attached as possible, and with lots of paperwork but little real accountability for performance and results.

Congressional electoral politics: To oversimplify but only a little, when it comes to "Big Government," Americans are philosophically conservative but behaviorally liberal. They want big government benefits and programs, but they do not want to pay big government taxes and they prefer not to receive their goods and services directly from the hand of big government bureaucracies.Since the late 1960s, congressional incumbents in both parties have been reelected at a rate of about 90 percent because they give the public exactly what it wants.  Republicans are, for this purpose, the party of "tax less."  Democrats are the party of "benefit more."  Together, they have won every post-1960 election.

Quote from: Possum on July 05, 2020, 05:11:00 PM
Joe, you are quite the ass, I have told you several times what the point was, if you can not get it, that's on you.

And I've agreed with you. So why are we going in circles ?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 05, 2020, 05:30:17 PM
Public opinion: For all the polls proclaiming mass public mistrust of government and for all the bad-mouthing of Washington, most Americans want the very government benefits and programs that the post-1960 federal government has enacted. The only thing that a near-majority of Americans wants to cut is foreign aid, which is not even static on the static in the federal budget adding machine.

Lobbying by the proxies: State and local governments and their governors associations, mayors associations, state legislatures, corrections commissioners, and more; big and small business lobbies; and, yes, nonprofit sector lawyer-lobbyists—all three federal proxies exert nonstop pressure in favor of federal policies that pay them to administer federal business, with as few strings attached as possible, and with lots of paperwork but little real accountability for performance and results.

Congressional electoral politics: To oversimplify but only a little, when it comes to "Big Government," Americans are philosophically conservative but behaviorally liberal. They want big government benefits and programs, but they do not want to pay big government taxes and they prefer not to receive their goods and services directly from the hand of big government bureaucracies.Since the late 1960s, congressional incumbents in both parties have been reelected at a rate of about 90 percent because they give the public exactly what it wants.  Republicans are, for this purpose, the party of "tax less."  Democrats are the party of "benefit more."  Together, they have won every post-1960 election.

\Hey dumb ass, that wasn't the question asked, pull that shit again and get a timeout!
You've dodged long enough, you've played this semantics game as iff you were entering this discussion with goodwill. You are not, so here's your last chance to answer honestly.

You own a business, you have about 5 employees but you haven't the physical space to house more, so you employ a temp agency, months go by, the temp agency now has 100 working specifically for your business.
Did your business grow?

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 05:24:04 AM
\Hey dumb ass, that wasn't the question asked, pull that shit again and get a timeout!
You've dodged long enough, you've played this semantics game as iff you were entering this discussion with goodwill. You are not, so here's your last chance to answer honestly.

You own a business, you have about 5 employees but you haven't the physical space to house more, so you employ a temp agency, months go by, the temp agency now has 100 working specifically for your business.
Did your business grow?

Well, officially I still have just the 5 employees.

You're asking me how many employees I have, no? Or do you mean something else be growth?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 06, 2020, 05:46:07 AM
Well, officially I still have just the 5 employees.

You're asking me how many employees I have, no? Or do you mean something else be growth?

You know good and well I wasn't talking about your business, a business you only once claimed to invest in.
It's a hypothetical, so cut the bull shit and answer the question, your stupidity is truly trying.

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 05:51:18 AM
You know good and well I wasn't talking about your business, a business you only once claimed to invest in.
It's a hypothetical, so cut the bull shit and answer the question, your stupidity is truly trying.

That was me answering the hypothetical. Did I misunderstand what you meant by growth?

btw, my business partner got shipped out to Qatar, so that's on hold until she gets back...

Quote from: joesixpack on July 06, 2020, 06:04:05 AM
That was me answering the hypothetical. Did I misunderstand what you meant by growth?

btw, my business partner got shipped out to Qatar, so that's on hold until she gets back...

You own a business, you have about 5 employees but you haven't the physical space to house more, so you employ a temp agency, months go by, the temp agency now has 100 working specifically for your business.
Did your business grow?

The fact that you refuse to answer is proof you admit the graph you posted is bogus.
But because you played hide the pickle, with yourself, take a nice little 3 day nap.

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 06:50:30 AM
You own a business, you have about 5 employees but you haven't the physical space to house more, so you employ a temp agency, months go by, the temp agency now has 100 working specifically for your business.
Did your business grow?

The fact that you refuse to answer is proof you admit the graph you posted is bogus.
But because you played hide the pickle, with yourself, take a nice little 3 day nap.

why won't you explain what you mean by growth?

or better yet, I've already answered that officially I still have just the 5 employees.

If you think that I'm wrong express why...

Quote from: joesixpack on July 06, 2020, 06:04:05 AM
That was me answering the hypothetical. Did I misunderstand what you meant by growth?

btw, my business partner got shipped out to Qatar, so that's on hold until she gets back...

So you lied!

Quote from: joesixpack on July 06, 2020, 05:46:07 AM
Well, officially I still have just the 5 employees.

You're asking me how many employees I have, no? Or do you mean something else be growth?

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 06:54:55 AM
So you lied!

What did I lie about?

Quote from: joesixpack on July 06, 2020, 07:00:20 AM
What did I lie about?

So these so called "5 Employees" just got laid off because your partner leftist?

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 06:50:30 AM
You own a business, you have about 5 employees but you haven't the physical space to house more, so you employ a temp agency, months go by, the temp agency now has 100 working specifically for your business.
Did your business grow?

The fact that you refuse to answer is proof you admit the graph you posted is bogus.
But because you played hide the pickle, with yourself, take a nice little 3 day nap.

His next timeout could be up to a month.  If he keeps playing hide the pickle.  More then one person has ask him to back up his BS.  His game playing is over with, time for him to stop dancing all around questions. 

Quote from: walkstall on July 06, 2020, 07:36:36 AM
His next timeout could be up to a month.  If he keeps playing hide the pickle.  More then one person has ask him to back up his BS.  His game playing is over with, time for him to stop dancing all around questions.

One month is good next time he pulls this shit. His dishonesty for debate is coming to an end, he needs to understand what honesty actually means. He even lies to himself.

Quote from: Solar on July 06, 2020, 08:22:13 AM
One month is good next time he pulls this shit. His dishonesty for debate is coming to an end, he needs to understand what honesty actually means. He even lies to himself.

I would like to know what "business" he is involved in.



Seems he has a lot of time to post on forums.