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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2019, 08:05:09 AM »
First of all, Clinton never had a Budget Surplus.  Fuzzy math to manipulate the Numbers.  It doesn't take into account the 246 billion Clinton had to borrow from Social Security, to get his numbers to jive.
Secondly, Budget is not DEBT.  The Budget "surplus" was not used to reduce debt, rather, he had an Increase. in Public Debt, like all others since FDR.
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2019, 08:13:14 AM »
What planet are you living on? Obozo fired many of the top brass, killed our preparedness as a military force. How is your claim that he still had a budget equate to not gutting the military?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/24/us-military-decimated-under-obama-only-marginally-/

Both previous administrations had 8 years to remedy this, they did not, to be fair, Trump has yet to begin his second term, where he has promised to reduce the overall budget.
Well, since we're talking about money, I thought you meant "gutted" financially.

You could also say that both previous administrations had 8 years to exacerbate this. Which is what they did.

My point remains, DT is on pace to spend more than those last two guys. He's already about to pass Bush. That's without a recession and without major military conflicts.


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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2019, 08:22:34 AM »
Well, since we're talking about money, I thought you meant "gutted" financially.

You could also say that both previous administrations had 8 years to exacerbate this. Which is what they did.

My point remains, DT is on pace to spend more than those last two guys. He's already about to pass Bush. That's without a recession and without major military conflicts.
Trump has yet to break a single campaign promise. Name one POTUS that can make that same claim. He promised to reduce the budget and reverse the deficit, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2019, 01:31:40 PM »
Trump has yet to break a single campaign promise. Name one POTUS that can make that same claim. He promised to reduce the budget and reverse the deficit, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

That's not true, everyone breaks promises. A simple google search will reveal which ones specifically.

But, since his term isn't yet over, we can consider the promises "unkept" instead of "broken" He's still got time

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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2019, 02:24:10 PM »
That's not true, everyone breaks promises. A simple google search will reveal which ones specifically.

But, since his term isn't yet over, we can consider the promises "unkept" instead of "broken" He's still got time
Go ahead, list them. Or will you admit you're wrong.
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2019, 03:30:53 PM »
Go ahead, list them. Or will you admit you're wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/rulings/promise-broken/

https://trumptracker.github.io/


Those were the first 2 links that popped up when I searched google.

I don't think any president in history has kept every one of his campaign promises.


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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2019, 05:06:02 PM »
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/rulings/promise-broken/

https://trumptracker.github.io/


Those were the first 2 links that popped up when I searched google.

I don't think any president in history has kept every one of his campaign promises.

I'll just take on the first few.


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"If I'm elected president, I will push for a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress."
Bring back waterboarding
Trump did not break this promise, note the word "Push", and only Congress can write law. So this was not a broken promise.

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“I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding,”
We don't know that he didn't, now do we? So for Marxist Politifact to claim he did break a promise is a lie.


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“One of my first acts as president will be to establish a commission on radical Islam which will include reformist voices in the Muslim community who will hopefully work with us."
Allow individuals to deduct health care insurance premiums from taxes
He wiped out ISIS, didn't he?

https://pjmedia.com/faith/zuhdi-jasser-calls-on-trump-to-fulfill-his-promise-to-form-a-commission-on-radical-islamic-terror/

You should never ever rely on Politifact for anything, everything they print is questionable a best. It's a Soros owned site.

Edit: Here's another outright lie, Trump never said "a ban on all muscum, that was media spin.

Establish a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2019, 05:30:50 PM »
I'll just take on the first few.

Trump did not break this promise, note the word "Push", and only Congress can write law. So this was not a broken promise.
We don't know that he didn't, now do we? So for Marxist Politifact to claim he did break a promise is a lie.

He wiped out ISIS, didn't he?

https://pjmedia.com/faith/zuhdi-jasser-calls-on-trump-to-fulfill-his-promise-to-form-a-commission-on-radical-islamic-terror/

You should never ever rely on Politifact for anything, everything they print is questionable a best. It's a Soros owned site.

Edit: Here's another outright lie, Trump never said "a ban on all muscum, that was media spin.

Establish a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

The link from PJ Media is about asking Pres. Trump to establish the commission on on radical islamic terrorism as he promised:

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In this light, Jasser called on Trump to form a commission on radical Islam, but he emphasized that this wasn't originally his idea. "I didn't come up with that. We got that off the Trump campaign website," he said. "When he was getting a lot of pushback in the campaign about what we should call it, he said, 'Let's form a commission on radical Islam,' and I think today it's really important that we follow through with that."

Setting up a commission on radical Islam involving these Muslim reformers would be a great way for Trump to defeat political correctness and investigate the true roots of Jihadist terrorism.

Why hasn't the president formed such a commission? Jasser suggested that the White House lacks the necessary "bandwidth."

"There's been so much distraction in Washington that they haven't been able to address it," the Muslim reformer told PJ Media. "I think part of it is the inner circle — from Chief of Staff John Kelly to National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster — there are a lot of military folks who have been focused on the military threat. I'm not sure how many folks have been focused on the ideological threat."

The reason Presidents always end up breaking promises is because they're not Kings. There are many things that they want to do but need help with. It happens to all of them

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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2019, 05:36:27 PM »
The link from PJ Media is about asking Pres. Trump to establish the commission on on radical islamic terrorism as he promised:

Like I said, he obliterated ISIS, so it's safe to assume he did establish some form of panel, within the military.
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2019, 12:05:49 AM »
First of all, Clinton never had a Budget Surplus.  Fuzzy math to manipulate the Numbers.  It doesn't take into account the 246 billion Clinton had to borrow from Social Security, to get his numbers to jive.
Secondly, Budget is not DEBT.  The Budget "surplus" was not used to reduce debt, rather, he had an Increase. in Public Debt, like all others since FDR.
Sheesh.

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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2019, 12:09:29 AM »
I'll just take on the first few.

Trump did not break this promise, note the word "Push", and only Congress can write law. So this was not a broken promise.
We don't know that he didn't, now do we? So for Marxist Politifact to claim he did break a promise is a lie.

He wiped out ISIS, didn't he?


This is another example of do-nothing academics versus business people.  Trump wanted to wipe them off the Earth.  Joe wants to study them.  Also, once Trump got into office, he had more intel to understand more of what's happening.

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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2019, 04:02:51 AM »
This is another example of do-nothing academics versus business people.  Trump wanted to wipe them off the Earth.  Joe wants to study them.  Also, once Trump got into office, he had more intel to understand more of what's happening.
Yeah, he didn't need a commission, he had the Military. That all he needed.
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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2019, 04:05:38 AM »
Yeah, he didn't need a commission, he had the Military. That all he needed.

Here's one of the members of the committee...


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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2019, 04:38:43 AM »
Here's one of the members of the committee...


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Re: Clintons 2nd term saw a budget surplus, since Bush the deficit skyrocketed
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2019, 03:29:26 PM »
Your point?
Note the so acclaimed "Surplus" under Klinton doesn't even show. Point being, when govt has a blank check, they'll spend it as if they're throwing a grand wedding.
Like I said earlier, if Trump needs to spend 10 trillion to bring our govt to its knees, then so be it. Thing is, Trump isn't giving money to our enemies like the rest on the list.



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