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Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« on: September 03, 2018, 09:54:20 AM »
Big companies like Google, Apple, and IBM are no longer requiring applicants to hold a college degree.

This is a significant change. Historically, employers have required a college degree whether or not it was necessary to do the job.

Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?

IBM is now looking at candidates with experience in non-traditional education, such as coding boot camps or industry-related vocational classes.

Glassdoor compiled an August list of 15 big companies that no longer require a degree to apply:
Google
Ernst & Young
Penguin Random House
Costco Wholesale
Whole Foods
Hilton
Publix
Apple
Starbucks
Nordstrom
Home Depot
IBM
Bank of America
Chipotle
Lowe’s
This is a welcome change for many jobseekers, as well as high school graduates considering whether college is worth the exorbitant cost. With college tuition soaring nationwide, these companies are giving young people an opportunity to succeed without going into debt for a degree they may not even use on the job.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/more-and-more-companies-ditch-college-degree-requirements-for-jobs
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2018, 10:20:19 AM »
Big companies like Google, Apple, and IBM are no longer requiring applicants to hold a college degree.

This is a significant change. Historically, employers have required a college degree whether or not it was necessary to do the job.

Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?

IBM is now looking at candidates with experience in non-traditional education, such as coding boot camps or industry-related vocational classes.

Glassdoor compiled an August list of 15 big companies that no longer require a degree to apply:
Google
Ernst & Young
Penguin Random House
Costco Wholesale
Whole Foods
Hilton
Publix
Apple
Starbucks
Nordstrom
Home Depot
IBM
Bank of America
Chipotle
Lowe’s
This is a welcome change for many jobseekers, as well as high school graduates considering whether college is worth the exorbitant cost. With college tuition soaring nationwide, these companies are giving young people an opportunity to succeed without going into debt for a degree they may not even use on the job.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/more-and-more-companies-ditch-college-degree-requirements-for-jobs


In government you need a degree for a job.  In government you need 5 to 10 people to do one persons job, then it's not done right.  In the real world your ass would be out the door.
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2018, 12:01:07 PM »

In government you need a degree for a job.  In government you need 5 to 10 people to do one persons job, then it's not done right.  In the real world your ass would be out the door.
Yep, and the real world is just now realizing that smart people don't need college to get a job, so why cut out the best and brightest?
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2018, 12:09:10 PM »
Big companies like Google, Apple, and IBM are no longer requiring applicants to hold a college degree.

This is a significant change. Historically, employers have required a college degree whether or not it was necessary to do the job.

Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?

IBM is now looking at candidates with experience in non-traditional education, such as coding boot camps or industry-related vocational classes.

Glassdoor compiled an August list of 15 big companies that no longer require a degree to apply:
Google
Ernst & Young
Penguin Random House
Costco Wholesale
Whole Foods
Hilton
Publix
Apple
Starbucks
Nordstrom
Home Depot
IBM
Bank of America
Chipotle
Lowe’s
This is a welcome change for many jobseekers, as well as high school graduates considering whether college is worth the exorbitant cost. With college tuition soaring nationwide, these companies are giving young people an opportunity to succeed without going into debt for a degree they may not even use on the job.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/more-and-more-companies-ditch-college-degree-requirements-for-jobs

"Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?"

You may have summed it up with that paragraph.  :thumbup:
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2018, 12:55:14 PM »
"Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?"

You may have summed it up with that paragraph.  :thumbup:
Yep. The Bigg Lie of college has been exposed. It didn't use to be that way, but with the addition of such acclaimed degrees as, women's studies, racial injustice courses, or any such liberal causes, they have all but made degrees in general study all but worthless.

So much for a well rounded education of math and the sciences, no, the field has been watered down to the point that, why waste your time studying hard to learn and expand your mind when you can get the same piece of paper that is the equivalent of an attendance award without having to do actual work.

Yep, tech and vocational training schools are killing the university system, people actually want a real job that pays and has a future, outside of that, of a barista.
This is a great thing, because it will force universities back to actual teaching and drop the indoctrinating BS.
I know Trump is working to cut their funding.
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2018, 01:26:37 PM »
"Is this because colleges are no longer teaching the needed skills, or because there are so many job openings to fill that standards are dropping? Could it be that vocational training and self-taught skills are enough for certain jobs in the modern-day economy?"

You may have summed it up with that paragraph.  :thumbup:
Not teaching job skills but are teaching how to be a snowflake, and no one wants the end product. go figure.

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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2018, 02:52:57 PM »
Not teaching job skills but are teaching how to be a snowflake, and no one wants the end product. go figure.
Oh God yes, that's a whole other story in and of itself. Failures.
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2018, 04:48:26 AM »
Yep. The Bigg Lie of college has been exposed. It didn't use to be that way, but with the addition of such acclaimed degrees as, women's studies, racial injustice courses, or any such liberal causes, they have all but made degrees in general study all but worthless.

So much for a well rounded education of math and the sciences, no, the field has been watered down to the point that, why waste your time studying hard to learn and expand your mind when you can get the same piece of paper that is the equivalent of an attendance award without having to do actual work.

Yep, tech and vocational training schools are killing the university system, people actually want a real job that pays and has a future, outside of that, of a barista.
This is a great thing, because it will force universities back to actual teaching and drop the indoctrinating BS.
I know Trump is working to cut their funding.

From the day I entered college I had a goal to work in business. So I enrolled in the business school and finished with a double major in Insurance and Real Estate. I took most of my electives in Insurance to receive the double major. I did have to take four elective courses outside the business and they were terrible. The business courses did give me some substantive courses that I could apply in the "real" world. In my view Liberal Arts majors are a scam.
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Re: Companies ditch college degree requirements for jobs
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 07:21:53 AM »
From the day I entered college I had a goal to work in business. So I enrolled in the business school and finished with a double major in Insurance and Real Estate. I took most of my electives in Insurance to receive the double major. I did have to take four elective courses outside the business and they were terrible. The business courses did give me some substantive courses that I could apply in the "real" world. In my view Liberal Arts majors are a scam.
I have a good friend that went to college around the time I was opening my first business, she took every class available (took years), got her masters in business.
It was only then she felt she could go into business and succeed, which she did.
She needed it to get financial backing, spent many years paying down debt. That was 40+ years ago, she just sold all three locations last year.
She said she was sooo glad she went to college, that it prepared her on how to deal with regulation, red tape, laws, IRS, marketing, bookkeeping etc.

There is no doubt college has a lot to offer people, problem is, they're killing off their own worth by diluting the final product, a diploma.
Businesses make this mistake all the time, be it a high end company, say Tiffany's, decides to mass produce a glass lampshade anyone can buy and have the Tiffany name, or Gucci making a cheap wallet, it devalues what they've created, as you pointed out, the liberal arts is the cheap wallet/lampshade, in fact, I believe so cheap, that anyone could print out a degree and the business hiring you wouldn't even check to see if it's an authentic lib Farts degree, because it's become that worthless.
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