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A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« on: January 22, 2015, 08:09:04 AM »
I was searching for some of my favorite sites on Fabian socialism that have literally disappeared from the web, (suspect foul play).
But in my search, I came across another the subject with something I''d never heard about.
I'll Bold the important pieces to save you time.

John Maynard Keynes was educated at Cambridge University in England, and he was a member of a secret organization there called the Apostles.  And if all – and if any of our listeners are interested in this, all they do is go to Google and type in "the Apostles at Cambridge University," and they will have a pretty good background on what this group was.
 
                                    But for our listeners today, I want to just mention a book called Keynes at Harvard, K-E-Y-N-E-S, At Harvard.  If they'll just go to – type that in, they can literally pick up the book on the – on the website, and they can download it there.  And it is priceless, Brannon.  I cannot mention this book too much. Keynes at Harvard was put together by a group of Harvard University professors who were worried that Harvard University was going left big time.
 
                                    Well, obviously, now we know that it has.   And one of its key graduates is now the President of the United States.  Keynes at Harvard.  I just want to read this.  I don't know if we have – how much time do we have?

 
David Noebel:             Okay.  Let – I just want to read this one section here, because this summarizes John Maynard Keynes – we could go into detail on each one of these points, but let's just get the overall flavor of this guy, and then realize that when Larry Summers who his key guy was in going to straight out our economic situation, he's the one that mentioned John Maynard Keynes as being his key guy, remember?
 
                                    Okay.  This is from the book Keynes at Harvard, and I'm just going to read this one area here.  Edited by Zygmund Dobbs, D-O-B-B-S.  "Singing the red flag.  Singing the red flag, the highborn sons of the British upper class lay on carpeted floor, spinning out socialist schemes in homosexual intermissions." Well, that's interesting, because the Apostles, which was the secret organization at Cambridge, was basically a homosexual organization.
 
                                    "The attitude in such gatherings was anti-establishmentarian.  To them, the older generation was horribly out of date, even superfluous.  The capitalist system was declared obsolete.  Revolution was proclaimed as the only solution."
 
                                    Now remember, earlier we said that evolution was their key word and not revolution, but at the earlier ____ of the Fabian socialists, revolution was still part of their scheme, and they were trying to figure out how to bring it about, until some of the more sensible ones said, "Well, let's not go revolution.  Let's go evolution."
 
                                    "Christianity was pronounced as an enemy force, and the worst sort of depravities were eulogized, as that love which passes all Christian understanding.  Chief of this ring of homosexual revolutionaries was John Maynard Keynes. Keynes was characterized by his male sweetheart as a liberal, a sodomite, an atheist, and a statistician.  His particular depravity was the sexual abuse of little boys."
 
                                    That is the – that is the character of John Maynard Keynes, who today is looked upon as the savior of the capitalistic system.  This has to be one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated upon any nation, including the United States.  John Maynard Keynes went contrary to all solid economic – what you would call economic doctrine.  You don't – you don't spend your way out of debt by going further into debt.  When you dig a hole, you stop digging.  You don't go further down.
 
                                    ___ a good area to contrast what the Christian position or the Christian worldview is in economics as well.  But today, Keynesianism is called interventionism.  Interventionism is where the government itself gets involved in the economic sphere, and passes laws that screw up what we would call sound, basic economics.
 
                                    And what we had with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the whole deal of going now into debt by trillions is nothing more or nothing less than Fabian, Keynesian economic philosophy.  So this is what every Christian needs to get a handle on, Brannon, or we are finished as a nation.


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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 07:31:24 PM »
One night my wife and I were having a discussion about some of the MF's policies that were supposed to get the economy back on track.  During the conversation I mentioned that all the ideas were nothing more than Keynesian economics on steroids.  My daughter, who was only 7 at the time (she's 12 now) asked "What's that? (Kenesian economics)"

Well, I answered her that the idea of Keynesian economics is that when the economy is not doing well, the government borrows a bunch of money and spends it on things in order to stimulate the economy, and then, once the economy is going well, they pay back the money they borrowed as a stimulus. I did NOT say anything about the sad fact that the reality is the money borrowed never gets paid back. Turns out I did not have to. When I finished my explanation of how Keynesian economics is supposed to work, my daughter (SEVEN years old, mind you!) stated flatly, "Well, that's just STUPID!"

From the mouths of babes.....

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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 08:51:50 PM »
One night my wife and I were having a discussion about some of the MF's policies that were supposed to get the economy back on track.  During the conversation I mentioned that all the ideas were nothing more than Keynesian economics on steroids.  My daughter, who was only 7 at the time (she's 12 now) asked "What's that? (Kenesian economics)"

Well, I answered her that the idea of Keynesian economics is that when the economy is not doing well, the government borrows a bunch of money and spends it on things in order to stimulate the economy, and then, once the economy is going well, they pay back the money they borrowed as a stimulus. I did NOT say anything about the sad fact that the reality is the money borrowed never gets paid back. Turns out I did not have to. When I finished my explanation of how Keynesian economics is supposed to work, my daughter (SEVEN years old, mind you!) stated flatly, "Well, that's just STUPID!"

From the mouths of babes.....
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Well one thing for certain, she'll never be a lib, she actually thinks.
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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2015, 09:40:03 AM »
Good article.

I came across similar information in Rothbard's biography of Keynes. The Apostles seem a very interesting group. They were highly secretive. They were elitists. The were academics. And they were hostile to traditionally notions of morality, in the extreme.

The were moral relativists and therefore believed that there was no such thing as morality. Right and wrong was described as nothing more than arbitrary conventions. And the Apostles were too special to be restrained by such arbitrary notions.

And so in keeping with this hostility toward traditional morality, they engaged in homosexual activities, and I would be shocked if there was not some occultism going on as well.
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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2015, 09:59:22 AM »
Good article.

I came across similar information in Rothbard's biography of Keynes. The Apostles seem a very interesting group. They were highly secretive. They were elitists. The were academics. And they were hostile to traditionally notions of morality, in the extreme.

The were moral relativists and therefore believed that there was no such thing as morality. Right and wrong was described as nothing more than arbitrary conventions. And the Apostles were too special to be restrained by such arbitrary notions.

And so in keeping with this hostility toward traditional morality, they engaged in homosexual activities, and I would be shocked if there was not some occultism going on as well.
I believe I read where some were, if not all, in the occult.
I simply can't wrap my mind around living a valueless lifestyle without boundaries, where good and evil simply do not exist.
Man needs these hurdles/barriers as a way of achieving enlightenment, it the least.
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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2015, 07:05:19 AM »
I believe I read where some were, if not all, in the occult.
I simply can't wrap my mind around living a valueless lifestyle without boundaries, where good and evil simply do not exist.
Man needs these hurdles/barriers as a way of achieving enlightenment, it the least.
I agree. They help keep society from falling apart and are therefore essential to human happiness.

I would argue no small amount of arrogance underlies the world view of the apostles.

They reject natural law, truth and God.
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Re: A little about Keynes You Never Knew
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 01:39:26 AM »
:lol:
Well one thing for certain, she'll never be a lib, she actually thinks.

True :D  :thumbup: :lol:

 

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