The Book Thief

Started by SalemCat, January 25, 2016, 08:53:20 PM

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SalemCat

I am a History Buff.

That said, there as SO many, fairly recent, stories of human abominations, that I tire of Anti-Nazis tales.

Did the Nazis suck ? Of course. But let's discuss Stalin and Mao as well. Unless the lives and deaths of Russians and Chinese do not matter.

Anyhow, just watched a great DVD: "The Book Thief". It is a refreshing tale, that somehow manages to display the great injustices rained upon German Jews, while simultaneously affirming that not all Germans were Anti-Semitic monsters. Just plain folks caught up with the times.

And even better, showed the cruelty of the Allied Forces, when they knowingly bombed German Cities and towns, that held no strategic value, but purely to terrorize.

Flattening Dresden was wrong.

Just my opinion.




Solar

True, war is Hell, but where do you draw the line at survival?
Using your logic, we might just be speaking Japanese today had we not taked out Hiroshima and Nagasake.

Do you think we can stop muscum fanatics and still leave the M/E intact" Or maybe glass the desert and put an end to this fanaticism for all times?
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Quote from: Solar on January 26, 2016, 05:03:29 AM
True, war is Hell, but where do you draw the line at survival?
Using your logic, we might just be speaking Japanese today had we not taked out Hiroshima and Nagasake.

Do you think we can stop muscum fanatics and still leave the M/E intact" Or maybe glass the desert and put an end to this fanaticism for all times?

Well, I am convinced dropping Fat Man and Little Boy saved countless lives, on both sides.

I'm not convinced incinerating Dresden saved any. If you have specific evidence it did, I could change my mind.


Solar

Quote from: SalemCat on January 27, 2016, 01:55:41 PM
Well, I am convinced dropping Fat Man and Little Boy saved countless lives, on both sides.

I'm not convinced incinerating Dresden saved any. If you have specific evidence it did, I could change my mind.
Like Japan, it was psychological war backed up with results.
That's the funny thing about war, you're either in it to win or you're not.

And the same goes for the M/E, either we use everything in our arsenal and bring this bull shit to a close, or we continue as our enemy slowly takes over our culture and we cease to exist, and that goes for our history and accomplishments as well, because we've evidenced how the enemy destroys their victims previous existence through the destruction of art and monument..
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Do I mourn Dresden ? I sure do.

Would I charge the people responsible for War Crimes ? No.

Dresden is not the real tragedy. The real tragedy is America has lost the will to win.

Every single war since WWII, we have fought with our hands tied behind our backs.

Korea, Vietnam, even the Gulf Wars were not fought with sincerity.

General George Patton was in it to WIN. To him a single American Soldier's life was worth 10, no, a 100, no, a thousand, no, a MILLION of the enemies !!!

No BS about not attacking during Ramadan (remember?). No BS, PERIOD.

IMHO we should have stayed out of every war since 1910 except WWII and Korea. And we should have WON Korea.

I joined the National Guard to avoid Vietnam. Did I serve nobly ? I guess.

Should I have died for LBJ, while Jane Fonda was being praised for her TREASON ?

You tell me.