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General Category => Entertainment => Topic started by: quiller on December 11, 2015, 08:57:47 PM

Title: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: quiller on December 11, 2015, 08:57:47 PM
For me this was Blue Eyes's best song. It just took me decades to figure out how wise it really is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2hYDIFDIU

Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: SalemCat on December 11, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Honestly, I don't know why, but Pop Culture Hero Worship was never my thing.

Elvis, Sinatra, Bing, Lennon, don't care.

But if you want to talk PATTON  :love:
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: quiller on December 11, 2015, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 11, 2015, 09:08:19 PM
Honestly, I don't know why, but Pop Culture Hero Worship was never my thing.

Elvis, Sinatra, Bing, Lennon, don't care.

But if you want to talk PATTON  :love:
If you cannot speak well of one of America's favorite entertainers, then please say nothing at all. Just shut up and let the rest of us at least acknowledge this man's amazing career and the stellar cast of people who surrounded him.
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: kit saginaw on December 11, 2015, 09:43:32 PM
Quote from: quiller on December 11, 2015, 08:57:47 PM
For me this was Blue Eyes's best song. It just took me decades to figure out how wise it really is.

This is probably my fave.  So many great ones, though...  I Get A Kick Out Of You, Ring-A-Ding-Ding... unbelievable shootout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW25qyEjWBw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW25qyEjWBw)
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: quiller on December 11, 2015, 09:54:35 PM
The comedian who opened for Sinatra on many appearances tells the terrific story of the night Frank Sinatra forgot the lyrics to a song...and a fan up in the upper balcony had just the right remedy, at just the right time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M8DH-YrmCg

...But for sheer power of imagination, the vivid account of Dennis Miller's mother, meeting Sinatra just months before her death. This one's eight great minutes all on its own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQyJlKI26lk
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: SalemCat on December 12, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Sinatra entertained many.

His value is undisputed.

God Bless Him - he deserves Heaven.

I am too young (incredible) to appreciate him, but my approval is a pitiful thing.

Frank apparently attempted suicide many times. I am glad he never succeeded.

RIP
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: kroz on December 14, 2015, 07:46:57 AM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 12, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
Sinatra entertained many.

His value is undisputed.

God Bless Him - he deserves Heaven.

I am too young (incredible) to appreciate him, but my approval is a pitiful thing.

Frank apparently attempted suicide many times. I am glad he never succeeded.

RIP

Sorry to throw a religious wrench in this but NO ONE deserves heaven.  "ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3) 

It is only by the grace of God and His mercy that some are saved from what we ALL deserve!

Sinatra is certainly no exception!  :ohmy:
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: Solar on December 14, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Loved his music, despised what the man represented.
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 14, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Loved his music, despised what the man represented.

Our entertainers should be thanked and rewarded for entertaining us.

They are not Role Models.
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 07:49:44 PM
Our entertainers should be thanked and rewarded for entertaining us.

They are not Role Models.


Back when I was a very young pup, (before TV) a lot of them were. 


I take it you have not looked at there take home pay.   :lol:

Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 08:01:45 PM

Back when I was a very young pup, (before TV) a lot of them were. 


I take it you have not looked at there take home pay.   :lol:



Lindsay Lohan - Role Model ? puke
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Lindsay Lohan - Role Model ? puke


QuoteBack when I was a very young pup,

:lol:  I don't even know who the hell Lindsay Lohan is.   :lol:

I am talking over 75+ years ago.   :lol: :lol: 
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: SalemCat on December 17, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 08:31:11 PM


:lol:  I don't even know who the hell Lindsay Lohan is.   :lol:

I am talking over 75+ years ago.   :lol: :lol:

Jealous  :laugh:
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: quiller on December 17, 2015, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 08:31:11 PM


:lol:  I don't even know who the hell Lindsay Lohan is.   :lol:

I am talking over 75+ years ago.   :lol: :lol:

75 years ago Lindsay Lohan would have been tossed into Bellvue or St. Elizabeth's for observation, not lionized for her bizarre drug-fueled lifestyle.

75 years ago, you probably bought your first record player. A Victrola wind-up with the movable arm....  :wink:
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
Quote from: quiller on December 17, 2015, 09:31:46 PM
75 years ago Lindsay Lohan would have been tossed into Bellvue or St. Elizabeth's for observation, not lionized for her bizarre drug-fueled lifestyle.

75 years ago, you probably bought your first record player. A Victrola wind-up with the movable arm....  :wink:

I remember getting my first 1940 Dictaphone from my uncle.   :lol:
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: quiller on December 17, 2015, 11:05:25 PM
Quote from: walkstall on December 17, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
I remember getting my first 1940 Dictaphone from my uncle.   :lol:

Traded-up from that wire recorder, eh?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seventy-five years ago, when movies were still new and audiences far less jaded, we had two-fisted MEN doing MALE things for MALE reasons, not capitulating to all challengers. Our Greatest Generation did not sit down to negotiate fake peace with enemies they embrace: our leaders said, you mess with us we will, repeat, we WILL kill you. Done and done.

We had patriots who quit their jobs cold on Monday, December 8, 1941 and flooded the U.S. military recruiters' offices, in an all-out support for our country following its greatest most tragic assault. Following Johnson's announcement expanding troops in Vietnam, instead of volunteering, many just fled to Canada.

So much for patriotism or for supporting our military. USO shows are weak shadows of the wartime extravaganzas. War bond drives are nonexistent: when's the last time anyone tried to sell bonds to fund a war?

We changed. The world changed. But 75 years later, we are still here and still arguing over events of our day. We just do it by wire now, and not a message in a bottle.
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: kroz on December 18, 2015, 07:08:45 AM
Lindsay Lohan is nothing compared with Miley Cyrus.

This girl is totally off the grid when it comes to social couth!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/16/topless-miley-cyrus-smokes-weed-on-stage-asks-young-fan-to-lick-her-fake-penis/
Title: Re: Saturday: Sinatra would have been 100
Post by: Solar on December 19, 2015, 07:10:43 AM
A more plausible answer.

Another version, now part of popular lore, was that for several months Dorsey refused the $60,000 that Jules Stein had offered him to release Sinatra from his contract, simply because Dorsey had grown to despise Sinatra and intended to hold on to his contract and drive the singer's career into the ground, which he could easily do by simply keeping him off stage and radio.

     But, Sinatra's strong willed and politically connected mother went to see New Jersey's Mafia boss, Quarico Moretti, better known as Willie Moretti, who controlled large parts of the East Coast entertainment industry. In fact, by the early 1940s, the national syndicate still held a virtual lock on the entertainment business unions nationwide and Mobsters were always looking to expand their control of the industry by managing the careers of promising entertainers.

     Moretti saw that Sinatra's prospects were good, and agreed to get the young man released from his contract with Dorsey for a cash payment from Sinatra, plus a percentage of his future earnings. Working through Jules Stein, Moretti's first offer to Dorsey was $60,000 cash. When Dorsey turned that down, Moretti, who was considered, in mob circles, to be a madman, decided to take matters into his own hands, and make the band leader an offer he couldn't refuse.

     One night after a show, Moretti pushed his way into Dorsey's dressing room, put a gun in the band leader's mouth and told Dorsey to sell Sinatra's contract. Which he did. For one dollar.

     As for the $60,000 paid by MCA to release Sinatra, supposedly that money, in cash, went directly from Dorsey's bank account into Moretti's greedy little hands, after Dorsey paid the taxes on it.

     Sinatra always denied the story too, and claimed he barely knew Moretti, who lived only a few doors away from him in suburban New Jersey.

     Dorsey spent the rest of his life denying the gun in the mouth story, but in 1951, right after Moretti was killed, Dorsey only added credence to the tale, when he told American Mercury Magazine that he signed the contract releasing Sinatra because one night, three men paid him in his dressing room, placed Sinatra's release in front of him and said, "Sign it or else!"
http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_212.html