Beatles 0, Beetles 1

Started by quiller, July 22, 2014, 06:30:02 AM

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quiller

Well, musically speaking (as well as horticulturally), you can't always get what you want......

Ooops. Wrong group. The Rolling Stones actually stayed together. Here's a story from USA Today about other things that didn't last....

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A pine tree, planted in Los Angeles in memory of Beatle George Harrison, has been eaten by ... beetles.

The Los Angeles Times reports that the tree, which was planted in 2004 near Griffith Observatory, was placed there because Harrison lived in L.A. before his death in 2001 and was an avid gardener.

Bark beetles and ladybug beetles have decimated the once 10-foot-tall tree. A new one will replace it soon.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140722/ENT04/307220075/Beatles-George-Harrison-memorial-tree-beetles

Solar

I haven't read the article, but Ladybugs do not hurt trees, in fact they are protectors of trees because they eat aphids which suck the life out of trees..
It would appear, no one was keeping an eye on this tree, bark beetles generally attack weak trees because the tree can't fight them off.
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Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
I haven't read the article, but Ladybugs do not hurt trees, in fact they are protectors of trees because they eat aphids which suck the life out of trees..
It would appear, no one was keeping an eye on this tree, bark beetles generally attack weak trees because the tree can't fight them off.
Or some dirtbag lawyer read the bugs their "rights." This was probably the same guy advising Oakland to be Oakland. Weak anything gets attacked there.

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Quote from: Solar on July 22, 2014, 08:34:35 AM
I haven't read the article, but Ladybugs do not hurt trees, in fact they are protectors of trees because they eat aphids which suck the life out of trees..
It would appear, no one was keeping an eye on this tree, bark beetles generally attack weak trees because the tree can't fight them off.

I'm curious. How does a strong tree fight off bark beetles or any other pest?
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Quote from: TboneAgain on July 22, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
I'm curious. How does a strong tree fight off bark beetles or any other pest?

If it's a bonsai, think karate. Aside from that, how DOES that defense happen?

Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on July 22, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
I'm curious. How does a strong tree fight off bark beetles or any other pest?
Sap. A strong tree can produce enough fluids to force the bug out.
And no, I didn't just call you a sap. :tounge:

Living in heavy forest, I see the damage these bugs can achieve and they almost always run a ridge line, where little water is available.
They will run a mile or more only attacking the weak, skipping 20 or more trees in the process, targeting only those under stress.

I have thousands on my property and have yet to lose one to the dreaded little bastards in more than 25 tears because I feed the trees I see under stress.
Both sides of my property owned by absentee owners, have lost thousands of trees, which is why I stay diligent.

My guess is, the tree in the article died from neglect, the bugs merely sped along it's demise.
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Quote from: quiller on July 22, 2014, 10:25:51 AMIf it's a bonsai, think karate. Aside from that, how DOES that defense happen?

The ash borer attacks ANY appropriate tree, healthy or not.

Last week I called our Forest Preserve District about a huge ash that would probably come down on our property. It was 1/2 dead. The same day they came out and cut it down. It was about 18" in diameter.

They also cut down a smaller dead ash deeper into the forest preserve.

They don't even take the wood to a chipper now; they said the pest is so widespread that it affects ALL ash trees in the entire forest preserve.
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Quote from: CG6468 on July 22, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
The ash borer attacks ANY appropriate tree, healthy or not.

Last week I called our Forest Preserve District about a huge ash that would probably come down on our property. It was 1/2 dead. The same day they came out and cut it down. It was about 18" in diameter.

They also cut down a smaller dead ash deeper into the forest preserve.

They don't even take the wood to a chipper now; they said the pest is so widespread that it affects ALL ash trees in the entire forest preserve.

I too have the emerald ash borer. To be such a pretty bug, it sure is destructive. I'll be harvesting five mature ashes along my property edge this year, all victims of the borer. The good news is they'll provide close to an entire winter's firewood for me. The bad news is it'll take fifty years for something else to take their place.
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