Rambling Thoughts?

Started by Solar, April 14, 2019, 06:25:04 AM

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Quote from: raptor5618 on April 18, 2019, 10:12:30 AM
I think VietNam is an example of a war that, perhaps the media but I lay the blame at the feet of politicians, was not fought with an intention to win.  How else can you explain winning all the battles but losing the War. I do not really accept that it was a loss, more of a war games conclusion that we decided not to play anymore.  No proof but I will always believe that it was used as a testing ground to see hour our equipment fared against theirs how different tactics worked. 

So I think that the media causing this war to end was not really a bad thing because I do not see where early on we were fighting to win and then backed off because of bad press. I do not agree that the left's actions against those who answered our countries call is right as it is really deplorable. 

The news media at that time was biased as we have learned but by today's standards not at all.  So much of the news today is commentary about opinion and feelings.  During the campaign of trump and even ones before that, the adjectives they used to describe each side was predictable.  The people who turned out for Trump were raucous, violent, and worse while the other side they were enthusiastic, educated adoring.  If you hear one crowd listened to a speech sedately and the other one was full of enthusiasm who do you think seems to have that hearts and minds of most people in America. 

Many people are sheep and will follow what they think the crowd is doing.  You do not hear that trump filled the stadium two times over if you count the ones listening outside while the other side did not fill a small auditorium.  Not an accident.
Yep, that was the problem of the day, the media only told you what they wanted you to see and hear. Which, if used correctly can unite the country, instead, this was the turning point in the media becoming a tool for dividing the Nation.
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 18, 2019, 04:40:00 PM
The best example of this propaganda disguised as news was the Tet Offesive. The papers, ad asshole Cronkite were saying it was a "defeat" for the Americans....Bullshit, the Vietcong threw everything they had at us and they FAILED, the held a few cities like HUE for a few days and they attacked the US embassy. But it he end, they failed to hold their objectives and they lost more than 80 thousand men by their own admission. After that the Vietcong were no longer a viable force. from then on in it was north Viet regulars and...some say to this day...Chinese Troops mixed among the nva

I meant to say 80 thousand VC casualties
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