No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?

Started by Turks, July 11, 2013, 04:19:19 AM

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Turks

"Consider Kennedy's policies actions from the standpoint of an ardent national-security statist at the height of the Cold War. Here's how an ardent national-security statist viewed Kennedy and his administration:...."




http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/jacob-g-hornberger/no-military-coups-for-america/

Shooterman

Quote from: Turks on July 11, 2013, 04:19:19 AM
"Consider Kennedy's policies actions from the standpoint of an ardent national-security statist at the height of the Cold War. Here's how an ardent national-security statist viewed Kennedy and his administration:...."




http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/jacob-g-hornberger/no-military-coups-for-america/

Men have been killed for much less than the Presidency.

In spite of the Warren Commission's white wash, ( Warren was not the most honorable man ) I always thought the killing was covered up. I also recall reading that Kennedy had all but declared war on the Federal Reserve, and that probably got him killed.
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mdgiles

What got Kennedy killed was his attempt to assassinate Castro. For some reason every seems to forget that Oswald defected to the Soviets, had a Russian wife, had attempted to assassinate a right wing political figure, and was a "Fair Play for Cuba" supporter. The Warren commission played all that down and made Oswald the lone gunman with a "magic" bullet, because to have looked too deeply into the assassination may have lead to WW3.
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Darth Fife

I wonder if we might not be facing a similar scenario now.

Look at it this way. If something were to happen to Obama during this budget impasse, Blacks (and probably Hispanics too) would riot in the streets of cities across the nation - especially if the shooter were white (which, of course, he would be found to be, whether or not he was the actually shooter). Joe Biden would impose Martial Law so fast it would make Boner's head spin.

Now in a state of national emergency, Boner would give Biden everything he wanted - or be accused of treason (and perhaps) be accused of complicity in the assassination/assassination attempt.

In fact, Biden might have the Justice Department actually arrest people like Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee (along with Rush Limbaugh, and Mark Levin) as co-conspirators!

This could get real bad, real fast.

-Darth

quiller

Quote from: Shooterman on July 11, 2013, 06:18:32 AM
Men have been killed for much less than the Presidency.

In spite of the Warren Commission's white wash, ( Warren was not the most honorable man ) I always thought the killing was covered up. I also recall reading that Kennedy had all but declared war on the Federal Reserve, and that probably got him killed.

This should give you food for thought. Somebody somewhere put the fear of Christ into a bunch of toadies willing to swallow that Warren Committee report, possibly the biggest piece of fiction in political history.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/jfk-assassination-eyewitness-wont-be-at-50th-anniversary-ceremony/

walkstall

Quote from: quiller on October 17, 2013, 09:23:18 AM
This should give you food for thought. Somebody somewhere put the fear of Christ into a bunch of toadies willing to swallow that Warren Committee report, possibly the biggest piece of fiction in political history.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/jfk-assassination-eyewitness-wont-be-at-50th-anniversary-ceremony/

I trust the Warren Committee report about as far as I trust b o's Hope & Change BS.  Just one more cover up in a long line of cover up's.
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bigmck

Back in the 1960's it seems like I recall there being files that were classified and were to be opened in 50 years.  I guess that was not the case, but aren't there still a lot of files on the shooting that remain classified?

quiller

Quote from: bigmck on November 28, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Back in the 1960's it seems like I recall there being files that were classified and were to be opened in 50 years.  I guess that was not the case, but aren't there still a lot of files on the shooting that remain classified?

The pink dress and a few other physical items. Probably the Xrays for Kennedy's skull. I doubt there will be a copy of NPR coverage (over the Christmas holidays) where TWO long-time pathologists testified there were signs of two bullet wounds to that same skull. Lamestream apologists gave it the same attention as the Benghazi cover-up.

the outlaw mortarman

That wasn't a military coup. It was CIA-Mafia Connection. The military would not have assassinated him, they would have jus' deposed an' imprisoned him, butt only in event that he had become to much of a danger to the country. They also would have deposed Johnson, McCormack, Hayden, Rusk, Bobbie Kennedy, McCone an' J. Edgar Hoover an' imprisoned them until a stable government could be put in place an' free an' fair elections could be held.

In light of what is going on with the regime in Washington, this would not be a bad idea right now.

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Mountainshield

Quote from: mdgiles on August 27, 2013, 06:26:21 AM
What got Kennedy killed was his attempt to assassinate Castro. For some reason every seems to forget that Oswald defected to the Soviets, had a Russian wife, had attempted to assassinate a right wing political figure, and was a "Fair Play for Cuba" supporter. The Warren commission played all that down and made Oswald the lone gunman with a "magic" bullet, because to have looked too deeply into the assassination may have lead to WW3.

Indeed, what we see is teh MSM embracing this conspiracy theory because it furthers the socialists cause if the belowed JFK was assisinated by illusionary reactionary forces of the right wing.

QuoteThe Chilean people elect a communist, Salvador Allende, in a democratic election at the height of the Cold War. U.S. officials say that this cannot stand. So, President Nixon orders the CIA to foment a massive economic crisis within the country, much like the economic crisis leading up to the military coup in Egypt. "Make the economy scream" are Nixon's exact words.

This article is ludicrous left wing bullshit, the Chilean economy collapsed as a direct result of Allende policies and failed socialist policies, read the i.e the commanding heights by Daniel Yergin.

Soupnazi630

Quote from: Turks on July 11, 2013, 04:19:19 AM
"Consider Kennedy's policies actions from the standpoint of an ardent national-security statist at the height of the Cold War. Here's how an ardent national-security statist viewed Kennedy and his administration:...."




http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/jacob-g-hornberger/no-military-coups-for-america/

On man even a former marine acting alone is not a coup.
None of that matters because one ex Marine ( Oswald ) getting lucky and murdering the president is not a coup

Soupnazi630

Quote from: mdgiles on August 27, 2013, 06:26:21 AM
What got Kennedy killed was his attempt to assassinate Castro. For some reason every seems to forget that Oswald defected to the Soviets, had a Russian wife, had attempted to assassinate a right wing political figure, and was a "Fair Play for Cuba" supporter. The Warren commission played all that down and made Oswald the lone gunman with a "magic" bullet, because to have looked too deeply into the assassination may have lead to WW3.

The actually investigated his involvement with the fair play for Cuba committee very extensively there was simply no connection between Castro and Oswald.

The Warren Commission never mentioned or described a Magic  bullet.

The bullet reffered to as " magical " was actually very ordinary and mundane. Conspiracy theorists made up the lie about the magical qualities.

cpicturetaker12

Quote from: Turks on July 11, 2013, 04:19:19 AM
"Consider Kennedy's policies actions from the standpoint of an ardent national-security statist at the height of the Cold War. Here's how an ardent national-security statist viewed Kennedy and his administration:...."




http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/07/jacob-g-hornberger/no-military-coups-for-america/

AND LET US NOT FORGET, THE MOTHER OF ALL COUPS!   IRAN--MOSSADEGH, August 1953.  The coup that TRUMAN said, no fucking way to but EISENHOWER handed to Britain 'as a gift' and set us down the path 26 years (and now 60 years) later for a foreign relations nightmare.  Thanks IKE!!  Thanks BRITISH PROTELEUM!!!  You set the course for half a decade of chaos! 

cpicturetaker12

Quote from: cpicturetaker12 on December 10, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
AND LET US NOT FORGET, THE MOTHER OF ALL COUPS!   IRAN--MOSSADEGH, August 1953.  The coup that TRUMAN said, no fucking way to but EISENHOWER handed to Britain 'as a gift' and set us down the path 26 years (and now 60 years) later for a foreign relations nightmare.  Thanks IKE!!  Thanks BRITISH PROTELEUM!!!  You set the course for half a decade of chaos!
Afterall, WE and Britian couldn't have a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED leader (and by all accounts, a fair minded progressive one) tell BRITISH PETROLEUM what they could and couldn't do with the OIL THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO.  WE and BRITIAN had to determine that for them!   We haven't learned a GD thing!!

Soupnazi630

Quote from: mdgiles on August 27, 2013, 06:26:21 AM
What got Kennedy killed was his attempt to assassinate Castro. For some reason every seems to forget that Oswald defected to the Soviets, had a Russian wife, had attempted to assassinate a right wing political figure, and was a "Fair Play for Cuba" supporter. The Warren commission played all that down and made Oswald the lone gunman with a "magic" bullet, because to have looked too deeply into the assassination may have lead to WW3.

The warren Commission actually covered all of Oswalds activities in extraordinary detail they did not down play any of it.

Nor did they " make " him alone gunman. They followed the evidence which led to the conclusion that he was the lone gunman and in fact no other credible evidence contradicts this.

THe Warren Commission never stated that there was a magic bullet nor did they describe any bullet which performed in a fashion which was out of the ordinary. The bullet was mundane and ordinary consistent with having struck two men. It was not pristine nor did it zig zag through the air or curve through the air or any other such nonsense.

The claim that the WC tried to sell a magic bullet idea is dreamed and repeated by legions of conspiracy theorists who trust that few will bother to check and see if the commission made such claims. If one reads the report one will find such a description conspicuous in its absence.