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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2013, 10:48:04 PM »
This should give you food for thought. Somebody somewhere put the fear of Christ into a bunch of toadies willing to swallow that Warren Committee report, possibly the biggest piece of fiction in political history.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/16/jfk-assassination-eyewitness-wont-be-at-50th-anniversary-ceremony/

Specifically what makes it fiction?

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 12:07:51 AM »
Specifically what makes it fiction?
You're not convincing me it wasn't.

Continue touting the party line, comrade. It was a lie from cover to cover, and Gerald Ford got to be Vice President for helping accomplish that.

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 07:57:05 AM »
You're not convincing me it wasn't.

Continue touting the party line, comrade. It was a lie from cover to cover, and Gerald Ford got to be Vice President for helping accomplish that.

I attempted to convince you of nothing I asked a question.

Specifically what makes it fiction.

Unlike you I am skeptical and want to be convinced which is why I asked.

I have no problem with your faith in what cannot be proven but I am curious what specifics of the report you can point to as fiction

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 08:34:33 AM »
I attempted to convince you of nothing I asked a question.

Specifically what makes it fiction.

Unlike you I am skeptical and want to be convinced which is why I asked.

I have no problem with your faith in what cannot be proven but I am curious what specifics of the report you can point to as fiction

If you have not noticed how Warren got to the Supremes and Ford to the WH, then I doubt any hints may sway you. Oswald's radio broadcasts in Miami were sorely glossed-over by that same sorry report. They downplayed his socialism to a laughable degree. End of discussion. It was rigged by the beneficiary, LBJ.

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 10:45:04 AM »
If you have not noticed how Warren got to the Supremes and Ford to the WH, then I doubt any hints may sway you. Oswald's radio broadcasts in Miami were sorely glossed-over by that same sorry report. They downplayed his socialism to a laughable degree. End of discussion. It was rigged by the beneficiary, LBJ.

Warren was appointed to the Supreme Court by Ike not by LBJ.

One has nothing to do with the other and although many of Warren's court decision were terrible none of that addresses the truth and facts of the Warren Commission report which you also ignore and have never bothered to read.

Ford got to the white house because Nixon resigned and once again this has nothing whatsoever to do with the Warren COmmission or Kennedy. Yes I know you SPECULATE that there was a connection but I asked for specifics.

Oswald never made a radio broadcast in Miami and his communist background was exhaustiely detailed by the Warren commission report which once again you never read.

This is not the end of the discussion since you may of course CLAIM anything you wish about the report but you have no clue whatsoever what is in the report and you were asked for specifics which you cannot do.

The Warren COmmission and it's report is accurate correct ( not perfect ) and supported by evidence. Every claim you have made about it thus far is a falserhood which you cannot support with any evidence whatsoever.

So one more time with specifics what makes it fiction?

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2013, 12:27:03 PM »
Well, since youi have all the answers, I'll leave you to "THE" conclusuion.

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2013, 01:20:51 PM »
Well, since youi have all the answers, I'll leave you to "THE" conclusuion.

So you admit it was correct and not fiction?

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 07:32:01 AM »
What, democrats lie to the American public? Who'da thunk it?.....

One of the most hard-hitting objective reporters in the business, Jake Tapper, says....

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The commission’s final conclusion was that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, but many respected experts looking back at the report find it flawed. You don't have to be an "X-Files" conspiracy theorist to think that the truth is out there.

"My big sort of takeaway, is just how much of this story has never been told, how much evidence about the assassination has been destroyed over the years or covered up, and I make efforts to find as much of that evidence as I can," said author Philip Shenon, who has spent the last five years picking up where the commission left off.

(. . . ) So many questions remain.

"There is an astonishing memo that J. Edgar Hoover writes to the Warren Commission in June 1964, right in the middle of the Warren Commission investigation, in which he reveals that the FBI has learned that several weeks before the assassination, Oswald in Mexico City, openly declared that he was going to kill President Kennedy," said Shenon. "That memo is a big debate among the Warren Commission staff members because they never saw it."

( . . . ) In 1976, post-Watergate, Congress reinvestigated the Kennedy assassination, concluding that, "The Warren Commission performed with varying degrees of competency," and that the Warren Commission "failed to investigate adequately the possibility of a conspiracy to assassinate the President."

"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired” at JFK, "the committee believes ... that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."

The 1976 commission found that the Warren report, "arrived at its conclusions in good faith," but the FBI failed to investigate any conspiracy, and the CIA was "deficient in its collection and sharing of information."
 

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/20/who-killed-jfk-book-goes-behind-the-scenes-of-warren-commission/


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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2013, 11:21:47 AM »

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2013, 12:30:10 PM »
What, democrats lie to the American public? Who'da thunk it?.....

One of the most hard-hitting objective reporters in the business, Jake Tapper, says....

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/20/who-killed-jfk-book-goes-behind-the-scenes-of-warren-commission/

No one denies that both parties have lied that is the nature of politics.

The issue at hand is whether the Warren commission lied and no evidence has been presented in your post suggesting that it had.

The  House Select Comittee on assasination had a conclusion of a probable conspiracy this is true.

But what is ignored is that this conclusion was based on one and only one piece of evidence which has been proven false.

The evidence was a recording from the Dallas Police department of sounds picked up by a motorcycle officers shoulder mic which was stuck in the push to talk position.

The initial analysis which the HSCA relied on was that it recorded the sounds of more than three shots. Unfortunately the sound of gunshots is no where to be found on the recording and this analysis was done on static which is on the recording. The acoustic experts presenting the recording referred to changes in the volume of static gunfire. It was only well after the committee disbanded that it was proven that the recording was actually of sounds picked up at Parkland memorial hospital well after the shooting. The officer escorted the motorcade to the hospital and only then keyed his microphone and it stuck. On the recording one can hear bells from a church next to the hospital as well as the hospital PA system paging a doctor.

Since this was the only evidence of a probable conspiracy the conclusion of such a probability is discredited and the HSCA was wrong.

The rest of the evidence studied by the HSCA supports the Warren Commission.

Despite peoples hatred of the Warren Commission report we still have anyone presenting any evidence that they lied or were wrong.

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Re: No Military Coups for America? What About November 1963?
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2013, 05:36:36 AM »


I always wondered how they were able to round up a convenient federal judge to administer the oath of office to a VP who was supposed to be anywhere else...for safety reasons.

 

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