MSM painting Vegas shooters as Tea Party types

Started by Farsighted, June 10, 2014, 12:40:07 AM

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Dr. Meh

Quote from: Solar on June 10, 2014, 06:15:45 AM
And why would you consider NAZI right wing?

A married couple who shot dead two Las Vegas police officers in a weekend pizza parlor ambush harbored anti-government and white supremacist ideology and threw a swastika on the body of one of the officers they gunned down, police said on Monday.

These are historically leftist commies/Democrats.

http://news.yahoo.com/killers-las-vegas-cops-harbored-anti-government-ideology-011931357.html

And why would you assume my comment had anything to do with alleged Nazi ties? Jumping to conclusions, aren't we? In fact, I never heard the Nazi thing until you said something. My comment had more to do with the "don't tread on me" flag they used.

Why is it so hard to admit that crazy people are all over the place and may even agree with us politically? Seems ignorant and downright silly to assume every nut job is a liberal.

Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on June 10, 2014, 08:51:57 PM
And why would you assume my comment had anything to do with alleged Nazi ties? Jumping to conclusions, aren't we? In fact, I never heard the Nazi thing until you said something. My comment had more to do with the "don't tread on me" flag they used.

Why is it so hard to admit that crazy people are all over the place and may even agree with us politically? Seems ignorant and downright silly to assume every nut job is a liberal.
What don't tread on me flags? The article said they "threw a swastika on the body of one of the officers they gunned down"
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Quote from: mdgiles on June 10, 2014, 06:34:13 AM
Because the Leftists in our education system have succeeded in convincing generations that the GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALIST WORKERS party, was somehow "right wing".

Indeed something the Democrats have made disappear from historical memory.

The same sort of people have been trying for generations to convince the world that the "People's Republic of _______" is a republic, or is the people's. I'm happy when I see someone refer to "the People's Republic of Massachusetts," for example, because it shows that the lie is pretty apparent. Unfortunately, those people have had rather better success with painting the Nazis as right-wingers. I've even seen Stalin referred to as an "ultra-conservative."
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Quote from: Solar on June 10, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
What don't tread on me flags? The article said they "threw a swastika on the body of one of the officers they gunned down"

I read the same thing, that they had draped Gadsden flags over the bodies of the cops. The LA Times among others made that claim, and said
QuoteJerad Miller, 31, then covered the officers with a Gadsden flag -- a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words "Don't Tread on Me" -- and placed a note with a swastika symbol on one officer's body, according to police officials speaking at the news conference.
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on June 10, 2014, 09:41:53 PM
I read the same thing, that they had draped Gadsden flags over the bodies of the cops. The LA Times among others made that claim, and said
Ah OK, so basically these guys are simply anarchist freaks that hate all things govt.
Which makes them far left Marxists, not right.
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Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2014, 05:04:09 AM
Ah OK, so basically these guys are simply anarchist freaks that hate all things govt.
Which makes them far left Marxists, not right.

I'm not sure you can stick them in one cubbyhole or another. I think they were, to borrow Mickey's words of accusation against Minnie, "fuckin' goofy."
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Dr. Meh

I just read that they were protesting at the Bundy ranch for a few days until the Bundy's told them to leave because they were too extreme and too radical. Seems they were looking for a fight rather than just wanting to stand up for their rights. So it does seem they aligned on the right politically but they were crackpot psychos and shunned by most everyone else on the right as well. Like I said, crazy can be all over the political spectrum.

Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on June 12, 2014, 12:45:27 AM
I just read that they were protesting at the Bundy ranch for a few days until the Bundy's told them to leave because they were too extreme and too radical. Seems they were looking for a fight rather than just wanting to stand up for their rights. So it does seem they aligned on the right politically but they were crackpot psychos and shunned by most everyone else on the right as well. Like I said, crazy can be all over the political spectrum.
Do you have a link to that info? I can't find it anywhere.
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Dr. Meh

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2014, 06:01:47 AM
Do you have a link to that info? I can't find it anywhere.

I'm on my phone and can't link from it. I know it was on a CBS site though. Did you try googling vegas shooting bundy ranch? Maybe it will come up. If not, I'll try to find it tonight and link it.

Solar

Quote from: Dr. Meh on June 12, 2014, 08:05:21 AM
I'm on my phone and can't link from it. I know it was on a CBS site though. Did you try googling vegas shooting bundy ranch? Maybe it will come up. If not, I'll try to find it tonight and link it.
Found it, thanks.
It would appear that they were looking for any avenue to fight, regardless of ideology.
Just crazy anarchists. and Bundy wanted no part of it.
QuoteThe couple suspected in Sunday's Las Vegas shopping center shooting tried to join the armed standoff against federal agents at Cliven Bundy's Nevada ranch in April, but they were asked to leave for being "too radical," Bundy's son said.
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