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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2013, 10:38:00 AM »
Well including those last statements you made the conclusion is that the research you posted in OP is just politicized bullshit unless the brain chemistry between the states and europe are very different.

That liberals average higher IQ's and education levels than conservatives isn't something documented in a single study from democratic underground.  There are literally dozens of papers on the issue and it's not as though the result is counter-intuitive; you even have conservatives such as Rick Santorum admitting that liberals are better educated.  It's common for the right to cast itself as the "common sense" alternative to those "liberal intellectual elitists", remember?

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In any case most of these "research" base themselves on too few data samples, little to nonexistent random sampling and adjustments of the model to fit the desired result. These "biological" research still uses sociological quantitative statistical models which are very easy to base the model on the result you want.

Your criticisms are suspiciously vague.

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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2013, 11:37:19 AM »
That liberals average higher IQ's and education levels than conservatives isn't something documented in a single study from democratic underground.  There are literally dozens of papers on the issue and it's not as though the result is counter-intuitive; you even have conservatives such as Rick Santorum admitting that liberals are better educated.  It's common for the right to cast itself as the "common sense" alternative to those "liberal intellectual elitists", remember?

Your criticisms are suspiciously vague.
Using education levels is pure Bull Shit, especially when one considers they are nothing more than leftist indoctrination centers.
Aside the fact, an education is not indicative of intellect, quite the opposite, the best and brightest don't need college to be successful.
You put way too much weight behind a degree.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2013, 11:53:30 AM »
Using education levels is pure Bull Shit, especially when one considers they are nothing more than leftist indoctrination centers.
Aside the fact, an education is not indicative of intellect, quite the opposite, the best and brightest don't need college to be successful.
You put way too much weight behind a degree.

I've never actually seen a survey of this - and I assume it would be somehow horribly "racist" to perform one - but I'm pretty sure that if you took a group of people who worked in the private sector, and another group who are supported by the federal government (let's say, including civil servants and Welfare recipients, but not the military), the liberal/conservative ratio would be somewhere around 20/80.

I'm going out on a limb and assuming no one has ever been bored enough to try and research any of sifi's "documented evidence" of anything.  But if he's convinced that being a member of the Government Class is a statistical indication of either "intelligence" or "education," then he understands even less about the definitions of those words than he does most others.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2013, 11:56:53 AM »
I've never actually seen a survey of this - and I assume it would be somehow horribly "racist" to perform one - but I'm pretty sure that if you took a group of people who worked in the private sector, and another group who are supported by the federal government (let's say, including civil servants and Welfare recipients, but not the military), the liberal/conservative ratio would be somewhere around 20/80.

I'm going out on a limb and assuming no one has ever been bored enough to try and research any of sifi's "documented evidence" of anything.  But if he's convinced that being a member of the Government Class is a statistical indication of either "intelligence" or "education," then he understands even less about the definitions of those words than he does most others.
Yep, blind obedience to the cause.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2013, 12:18:07 PM »
I've never actually seen a survey of this - and I assume it would be somehow horribly "racist" to perform one - but I'm pretty sure that if you took a group of people who worked in the private sector, and another group who are supported by the federal government (let's say, including civil servants and Welfare recipients, but not the military), the liberal/conservative ratio would be somewhere around 20/80.

I'm going out on a limb and assuming no one has ever been bored enough to try and research any of sifi's "documented evidence" of anything.  But if he's convinced that being a member of the Government Class is a statistical indication of either "intelligence" or "education," then he understands even less about the definitions of those words than he does most others.

Heh. Reminds me of those commercials in the early TV days... "Four out of five (dentists, doctors, whatever) agree! Our product is good for you!"

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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2013, 12:22:12 PM »
Heh. Reminds me of those commercials in the early TV days... "Four out of five (dentists, doctors, whatever) agree! Our product is good for you!"


Consensus, is science, but you already knew that. :lol:
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2013, 12:44:48 PM »
Consensus, is science, but you already knew that. :lol:

Another thing I've never actually seen, but I understand Glenn Beck has done a bunch of shows on how the Progressive movement latched onto mass marketing techniques; except they use free "news" programs instead of paid commercials to peddle their crap.  It's how everything from the federal "Food Pyramid" to the Alar, Ozone and Global Warming Scares got started.

As I've always said:  most people believe most things for the same reason they believe McDonalds is their kind of place.  And that applies to politics and science at least as much as it does food.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #37 on: December 01, 2013, 01:17:33 PM »
Another thing I've never actually seen, but I understand Glenn Beck has done a bunch of shows on how the Progressive movement latched onto mass marketing techniques; except they use free "news" programs instead of paid commercials to peddle their crap.  It's how everything from the federal "Food Pyramid" to the Alar, Ozone and Global Warming Scares got started.

As I've always said:  most people believe most things for the same reason they believe McDonalds is their kind of place.  And that applies to politics and science at least as much as it does food.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #38 on: December 01, 2013, 01:28:01 PM »
Using education levels is pure Bull Shit, especially when one considers they are nothing more than leftist indoctrination centers.

Understanding how to calculate a material's modulus of elasticity is nothing more than leftist indoctrination?   :rolleyes:

You have to get your knowledge from somewhere.  If you're not well educated in a subject, either by your own serious research or formal schooling, you should learn humility and either defer to experts or try to learn more before you make up your mind.  Otherwise we get people like you, who have no understanding of elementary scientific principles (the sun can create its own mass... :lol:) yet smugly and condescendingly claim to know everything.

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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #39 on: December 01, 2013, 05:27:59 PM »
Understanding how to calculate a material's modulus of elasticity is nothing more than leftist indoctrination?   :rolleyes:
What in the Hell has that to do with anything? Do you actually think, that somehow makes you sound smart, using a string of words completely out of context?
The only stretching and I do mean Stretching, going on here is your own self inflated importance, you are proof that a little, and I do mean Little knowledge is proof of ignorance, one easily lead on by ridiculous studies.

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You have to get your knowledge from somewhere.  If you're not well educated in a subject, either by your own serious research or formal schooling, you should learn humility and either defer to experts or try to learn more before you make up your mind.  Otherwise we get people like you, who have no understanding of elementary scientific principles (the sun can create its own mass... :lol:) yet smugly and condescendingly claim to know everything.


What a fool, you actually believe we know all there is to know about the universe?
We can only theorize, but to claim to know how the Sun formed is beyond pure arrogance, or to know what it's center consists of precisely, because we have a vague understanding of the atom.

I love science, I also understand it's limitations, something you fail to recognize, I also understand that theories, are just that, until proven 100% beyond a reasonable doubt, not 80% through consensus of paid shills/whores.

But to make some ridiculous claim that one political bent has a higher intellect because a bunch of whores got a govt grant, when it's a known fact that the majority that vote for the Dims are low information voters acting in their own self interest.
That's right, freaking idiots.

But I'm curious, did you believe the findings of the study you posted unequivocally true, or did you view it with any skepticism?
This too is a difference in libs and cons, gullibility appears to be based in the anterior cingulate, associated with liberalism.
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2013, 06:08:44 AM »
It's pretty obvious what this study proves, that liberals are gullible and willing to accept pseudoscience as fact.
You, Scifool are a perfect example of useful idiot, you believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that man is killing the planet and it is imperative that the US stop all use of oil to save the planet, that somehow refusing to use nuclear energy is not part of this equation is irrelevant.
See the point here, or am I talking beyond you comprehension?

The leaps you make in your quest to prove you are somehow intellectually superior, screams emotional instability mixed with a heavy dose of fear, but I'm certain that no lib professor has done that study, since they are too busy trying to prove to themselves that backing big govt is somehow superior to self reliance.

And you wonder why I'm getting tired of your shit, you're like a pestilent child with a hammer, you see breaking down our culture as progressive, when every sane individual in the world knows you're simply dangerously destructive.

But the question holds, do you actually believe this shit?
I guess it goes without saying, because you swallowed AGW despite the evidence to the contrary.
I wish you could see what we see, a kid with a little knowledge. Remember when you told your parents you could make it on your own without them "I'm 16 and I know it all"?
Well, you're a little older and no smarter, and we see you as nothing more than an useful idiot for a destructive leftist agenda Hell bent on killing Capitalism..
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2013, 06:26:45 AM »
Understanding how to calculate a material's modulus of elasticity is nothing more than leftist indoctrination?   :rolleyes:

You have to get your knowledge from somewhere.  If you're not well educated in a subject, either by your own serious research or formal schooling, you should learn humility and either defer to experts or try to learn more before you make up your mind.  Otherwise we get people like you, who have no understanding of elementary scientific principles (the sun can create its own mass... :lol:) yet smugly and condescendingly claim to know everything.

You should start your own political party --- the Smugwumps. Then sit on your worthless rear and snivel that everybody's stupid, while you ALSO deny the science is not settled over the entirely fraudulent global warming scare.

What happens when serious researchers finally decide we are in fact going into a cooling cycle, proving you droolers wrong? How fast will you deny you ever spoke out against global cooling? How fast will you start singing whatever tune you birdbrains receive from halfwits telling you what to say?

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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2013, 10:10:09 AM »
You should start your own political party --- the Smugwumps. Then sit on your worthless rear and snivel that everybody's stupid, while you ALSO deny the science is not settled over the entirely fraudulent global warming scare.

What happens when serious researchers finally decide we are in fact going into a cooling cycle, proving you droolers wrong? How fast will you deny you ever spoke out against global cooling? How fast will you start singing whatever tune you birdbrains receive from halfwits telling you what to say?

Oh, heck, that's already started. Just as KenyaCareTM has suddenly become the Affordable Care Act (a misnomer in a league with 'People's Republic of China'), global warming is already being morphed into 'climate change,' with the apparent implication that any change at all is bad, and cause for taxation and redistribution of wealth. Remember, it's only been a little over thirty years since some of these same Chicken Littles were making squealy sounds about 'global cooling' and the 'new Ice Age.'
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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2013, 10:37:02 AM »
The telling thing about this clown is he spends an inordinate amount of time trying to belittle and dismiss Conservatism yet he never ever discusses Liberal policies. He stays far away from the polices his masters have put in place.


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Re: Liberals vs Conservative thought differences: What does the Science say?
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2013, 10:46:45 AM »
The telling thing about this clown is he spends an inordinate amount of time trying to belittle and dismiss Conservatism yet he never ever discusses Liberal policies. He stays far away from the polices his masters have put in place.

If liberals ever told the truth what they believe they would never win an election outside of the west coast or NE.
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