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« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2011, 06:08:30 AM »
I will soon be 70 years old.  I have seen too many changes and there have been more bad (for our Republic) than good in my opinion.

If we could rewind to the 1950s the only thing I would miss is air conditioning.
If you could go back to the fifties, statistically, you'd be much more like to be dead.

Besides, you can't go back to the fifties so you'd better learn to find something to like about the decade you are living in because the "teens" aren't going away.

Turns out, if you're honest with yourself, the fifties weren't all that wonderful and the teens aren't that awful.

The word "nigger" doesn't roll of the tongue, in public, of sitting politicians which is a step in the right direction and the Soviet Union doesn't have thousands of nuclear weapons pointed at us any longer which is also a step in the right direction. You're using an internet-connected computer with all that implies both about your distaste for this decade and the wonderfulness of the fifties.

Had a friend some years back who used to view the thirties in a similar way. I reminded him of his love affair with a bygone era while he was recovering from the rupture of an intestinal blood vessel. The then modern medical technology saved his life, medical technology that was fifty years in the future in the 1930s.

Being addicted to stubbornness, my friend insisted that there was a lot that was good about the 1930s. My reply was, yeah, as long as you weren't black or Jewish or sick.

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2011, 08:57:10 AM »

In the 1950s there was far less government intrusion in and control of our lives.  School children were taught how to think instead of what to think and they showed respect for their parents and other elders.

President Eisenhower had actively expelled illegal aliens so the soldiers returning from Korea could get jobs. 

In the 1950s people did not care what kind of job they had as long as they were working and taking care of their families until a better job came along.  Few people were paid not to work in the 1950s.

That was long before we entered the Vietnam conflict when young men were drafted to die, and draft dodgers.

Before President Nixon ended the draft and President Carter forgave the draft dodgers.

People were not afraid to leave their doors unlocked, the keys in the ignition of their car, or a stranger knocking on the door to ask for a drink of water or a meal.

People traded labor, helping out a neighbor knowing when they needed help it would be there; and people cared for their family members who could not care for themselves.

The United Nations was in its infancy and had not gained the World Power it has today and Secret Societies like the Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Group, and Unions did not have the stranglehold on our Government they have today.

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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2011, 03:12:45 PM »
Sorry msbobbie but school children were most assuredly taught what to think in public schools.

You may have approved of what they were taught to think but one of the purposes of public school is to indoctrinate the kids. So it's really just a matter of who's choosing which particular points of view to indoctrinate the kids with.

I'm still not clear on exactly how the power of the United Nations works. A bunch of treaties partly brokered by the U.N. - Kyoto Accords, the small arms treaties - were dead letters before they cleared the doors of the U.N. so that's hardly evidence of the U.N.s power. U.N. "peace keepers" have quite a mixed bag of results with some being a real embarrassment to the U.N.

Finally, the fifties aren't coming back whatever the truth about how wonderful, or not, they were. So you might want to think about finding things to like about the period you're living in. I don't believe you have much say in the situation.

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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2011, 08:49:52 AM »
Sorry msbobbie but school children were most assuredly taught what to think in public schools.

You may have approved of what they were taught to think but one of the purposes of public school is to indoctrinate the kids. So it's really just a matter of who's choosing which particular points of view to indoctrinate the kids with.

I do not know in what era you went to school, but the U.S. Department of Education did not come to be until 1979.  That is when children began being "indoctrinated".  It got worse after NCLB.

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I'm still not clear on exactly how the power of the United Nations works. A bunch of treaties partly brokered by the U.N. - Kyoto Accords, the small arms treaties - were dead letters before they cleared the doors of the U.N. so that's hardly evidence of the U.N.s power. U.N. "peace keepers" have quite a mixed bag of results with some being a real embarrassment to the U.N.

For the United States, the power of the U.N. lies in the United States Congress and the people organizations like the CFR, Bilderbergs and Unions help elect.  For now, issues like Kyoto and arms control are "dead", but that can always change with the next election.

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Finally, the fifties aren't coming back whatever the truth about how wonderful, or not, they were. So you might want to think about finding things to like about the period you're living in. I don't believe you have much say in the situation.

Some believe the 50s or even pre 50s are coming back.  Some will be prepared and others will not.  Some will know how to survive and others will think surviving means taking whatever they need or want from someone else who has prepared.

I like air conditioning.  I like the few freedoms we have how, but they are being slowly stripped away, thanks to the United Nations and their elite supporters.

If you are not clear about the power of the United Nations it is past time for you to  start learning more than you think you know now. 

http://www.un.org/en/

Read all of the tabs and links.  They really have no secrets.  Most people are too lazy to research before the form an opinion.


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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2011, 01:53:28 PM »
I do not know in what era you went to school, but the U.S. Department of Education did not come to be until 1979.  That is when children began being "indoctrinated".  It got worse after NCLB.
I was born in 1950 so my elementary school education long predates the establishment of the Department of Education and that is not when children began to be indoctrinated.

We said our pledge of allegiance every morning like all kids did back then and if you think that's not indoctrination then I'd be interested to hear what you do think it is. As for NCLB, the shoe's on other foot. You really don't have a clue about that piece of legislation.

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For the United States, the power of the U.N. lies in the United States Congress and the people organizations like the CFR, Bilderbergs and Unions help elect.  For now, issues like Kyoto and arms control are "dead", but that can always change with the next election.
Har! So the power of the U.N. resides in Congress?

Uh, msbobbie, that means the U.N. has no power. That much ought to be obvious from the back-of-the-hand treatment the U.N. has gotten over any number of treaties including the Kyoto Accord, the small arms treaty and quite a few others. If they had power they'd jam that stuff down our throats.

And while those could, conceivably, come back the odds diminish as time goes on. We could have eighty degree weather here in the Detroit ares in January but the odds are rather severally stacked against the possibility.

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Some believe the 50s or even pre 50s are coming back.  Some will be prepared and others will not.  Some will know how to survive and others will think surviving means taking whatever they need or want from someone else who has prepared.
No, the fifties aren't coming back. Some ideas and attitudes that were more common and didn't require an apology are making a come-back but it won't be the fifties ever again. As to the "Mad Max" rhetoric, not interested. Been there, considered and decided "no".

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I like air conditioning.  I like the few freedoms we have how, but they are being slowly stripped away, thanks to the United Nations and their elite supporters.
Our freedoms aren't being stripped away. We've been convinced to give them up. My, admittedly, rosy view is that we're getting less and less enthusiastic about those reductions in freedom and more and more resistant to the appeals that are used to try to justify those reductions in freedom.

But then, what's new about that?

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If you are not clear about the power of the United Nations it is past time for you to  start learning more than you think you know now. 

http://www.un.org/en/

Read all of the tabs and links.  They really have no secrets.  Most people are too lazy to research before the form an opinion.
Thanks but I have only so much time in the day and wasting that time on an organization that's sliding slowly, but in the not-too-distant future will slide more quickly, into oblivion isn't a good use of my time.

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2011, 07:09:24 AM »


Believe what you want.  I will just consider myself better informed since you do not have time to be.


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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2011, 07:31:54 AM »
Everything has an agenda, that is the nature of life, even charities that ask for money have an agenda.
But when you hyper focus  on anyone particular issue, you are bound to see these hidden agendas.

This is why I said, You need to step back and look at the big picture.
What you are seeing is the equivalent of the inner workings of the human body fighting off disease and winning.

Take a step back and look how, at every turn these people have been made irrelevant, the body (America) will continue to fight this disease, even when it gained power, the marxist in charge couldn't bring it to its knees.

Look at him, he is a kid out of his element as a community organizer, and the courts have stopped him at every turn.
So I guess the point is, yes, there are elements out there that would love to take over, and always will be, yet we prevail.

If anything, it will be self inflicted socialism that will ruin our culture.

Again, look at just how far the communists managed to change our culture, and all done through influence of the youth.
They didn't need a secret organization, they only needed to brainwash one generation.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2011, 12:43:21 PM »

Believe what you want.  I will just consider myself better informed since you do not have time to be.

Thanks. I will.

And you do provide a clue as to the underlying motivation of conspiratorialism.

A lot of people will simply dismiss you as stupid or crazy but that will trouble you not at all and, in fact, conspiratorialists, except for the real "off the edge" types, clearly aren't mentally ill or mentally deficient. But when you write "I will just consider myself" you reveal the true reason that motivates conspiratorialists: it's all about you.

Conspiratorialism is a means by which you can convince yourself of your superior insightfulness without doing much more then reading some lame books or websites and getting excited. You are in possession of dangerous truths that the inferior, blinkered masses that surround you are not in possession of.

Poor, stupid masses. If only they saw the world through your all-seeing eye but they never will. They're too stupid. And you're so smart.

I'm pretty sure you'll see the above as a personal attack but it isn't.

I'm looking for a reason why otherwise intelligent, balanced and capable people can latch onto such astonishingly silly ideas as the hollow earth through Marxism. And vast, ancient, all-powerful, hidden conspiracies.

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« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2011, 02:00:42 PM »
Thanks. I will.

And you do provide a clue as to the underlying motivation of conspiratorialism.

A lot of people will simply dismiss you as stupid or crazy but that will trouble you not at all and, in fact, conspiratorialists, except for the real "off the edge" types, clearly aren't mentally ill or mentally deficient. But when you write "I will just consider myself" you reveal the true reason that motivates conspiratorialists: it's all about you.

Conspiratorialism is a means by which you can convince yourself of your superior insightfulness without doing much more then reading some lame books or websites and getting excited. You are in possession of dangerous truths that the inferior, blinkered masses that surround you are not in possession of.

Poor, stupid masses. If only they saw the world through your all-seeing eye but they never will. They're too stupid. And you're so smart.

I'm pretty sure you'll see the above as a personal attack but it isn't.

I'm looking for a reason why otherwise intelligent, balanced and capable people can latch onto such astonishingly silly ideas as the hollow earth through Marxism. And vast, ancient, all-powerful, hidden conspiracies.

Are you talking about Glen Beck?  :P
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« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2011, 04:57:54 PM »
Are you talking about Glen Beck?  :P
No. I'm assuming that's a slam on Beck although it's wasted on me. I've only watched Beck for a couple of minutes here and there. Once or twice he was not bad. Once or twice he was pretty far over the top.

In any case, that's got nothing to do with what I was writing about.

Do you have any notions about why conspiratorialism is no respecter of IQ, success in life or education?

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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2011, 05:22:30 PM »
Sorry. I stopped paying attention a while ago. :p
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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2011, 05:28:16 PM »
Why do all babies look like Winston Churchill?

Why do all cave men look like Jerry Garcia?
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2012, 11:01:36 PM »
Did anyone know that the Kerry and Bush election was the first one where both candidates were in the Skulls and bones at Yale and the Bilderberg Group.

Does anyone beside the OP know what the Bilderberg Group is and what they do?

Other presidential candidates and presidents that were members of this prestigious
group include:

BILL CLINTON AND WHIFE AND CURRENT SEC OF STATE
H. BUSH
CARTER
FORD
OBAMA AND VP BIDEN


PLUS

AL GORE
ALL CIA DIRECTORS SINCE CARTER'S ADMINISTRATION

ALL MAJORITY AND MINORITY WHIPS IN CONGRESS SINCE AT LEAST THE CLINTON ADMINSTRATION

AND MOST OF THE REST OF CONGRESS
AND MOST GUVs
MC CAIN
SANTORUM

PLUS

ALL PMs SINCE THATCHER WHO SAID I CONSIDER IT AN HONOR THAT
THE BILDERBERGS GOT RID OF ME. SHE WAS VS ENGLAND JOINING THE EU
THUS GIVING UP THEIR SOVERINTY.

GORBACHEV WHO HAD AN OFFICE NEXT TO H. BUSH AT THE PRESIDIO WHICH
WAS PAID FOR BY THE BILDERBERGS

DAVID ROCKEFELLER WHO LEFT THE BILDERBERGS TO FORM HIS OWN GROUP
BECAUSE THEY WOULDNT INCLUDE CHINA AND JAPAN AND INCLUDES MEMBERS
SUCH AS OBAMA, GEITHNER-SP?, AND MOST OF OBAMA'S CABINET.


Somebody in America thinks it's important.


THE TIME HAS NEVER BEEN RIGHT THAN NOW FOR A ONE WORLD GOV'T.

DAVID ROCKEFELLER
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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2012, 11:11:05 PM »
For the poster who asked about globalization, this is globalization.

And note the Gorbachev Foundation and the Raytheon Corp. They built the
anti missile system during the first Gulf war that shot down those scuds and
when H Bush was president. They are all connected to bilderbergs.


http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-shows-the-bilderberg-groups-connection-to-everything-in-the-world-2012-6
« Last Edit: June 30, 2012, 11:17:11 PM by COVER D »

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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2012, 09:04:53 PM »
I have long admired Charlie Rose.  He is one of, if not the best informed interviewers on television.  He converses comfortably with every guest on just about any topic of discussion.  I believe he likes doing what he does.

But.. Geraldo he is not.  perhaps you are type-casting Charlie.  Besides,  might not be healthy for him.

Charlie Rose "the best informed interviewers..."?



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