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BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« on: September 05, 2011, 06:12:39 PM »

What are Bilderberg Conferences all about?


The Bilderberg Secretariat proclaims the conferences to be '...private in order to encourage frank and open discussion'. Frank and open discussion is a good thing in any forum but when those doing the discussing are some of the very most powerful financiers and media tycoons in the world it begs the question: If what they discuss is for the good of ordinary people why not publicise it! Isn't it a perverted use of the word 'open' when no-one can find out what they're saying?

Is Bilderberg a secret conspiracy?

Who is behind Bilderberg?


http://www.bilderberggroup.net/



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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 06:30:22 PM »
You know, I meet in confidence with my attorney so I can have frank and open discussion with him about issues I care about.

In this case, frank and open means frank and open for the group, and the ability to talk "off the record" without concern about your REAL concerns.  Being a high-placed Government or business official can make it hard to say ANYTHING without significantly weighing your words against public impression, political fallout, business repercussions.  You need to have a confidential place to actually speak frankly and openly, to speak your mind without concern.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 06:23:25 AM »
You know, I meet in confidence with my attorney so I can have frank and open discussion with him about issues I care about.

In this case, frank and open means frank and open for the group, and the ability to talk "off the record" without concern about your REAL concerns.  Being a high-placed Government or business official can make it hard to say ANYTHING without significantly weighing your words against public impression, political fallout, business repercussions.  You need to have a confidential place to actually speak frankly and openly, to speak your mind without concern.



pffffffffffft!

There is a vast difference between one person meeting privately with their attorney to discuss personal issues (or my siblings and I meeting privately to conspire for a surprise golden anniversary celebration for our parents) and for 120-140 of the world's wealthiest and most powerful to meet privately by invitation only.  You can bet what they discuss is of a personal nature also that will have a negative affect on the rest of the world. 

IMO it is not a stretch to suspect what they secretly  discuss is how to acquire even more wealth and power.  Surely they are not discussing how to redistribute their own wealth in charitable ways to benefit the underprivileged nations.


These meetings create an artificial 'consensus' in an attempt to spellbind visiting politicians  and other men of influence. Blair has fallen for this hook, line and sinker. It's about reinforcing - often to the very people who are on the edge of condemning Globalization - the illusion that Globalization is 'good', 'popular' and that it's inevitable. [/u]

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 07:01:39 AM »


pffffffffffft!

There is a vast difference between one person meeting privately with their attorney to discuss personal issues (or my siblings and I meeting privately to conspire for a surprise golden anniversary celebration for our parents) and for 120-140 of the world's wealthiest and most powerful to meet privately by invitation only.  You can bet what they discuss is of a personal nature also that will have a negative affect on the rest of the world. 

IMO it is not a stretch to suspect what they secretly  discuss is how to acquire even more wealth and power.  Surely they are not discussing how to redistribute their own wealth in charitable ways to benefit the underprivileged nations.


These meetings create an artificial 'consensus' in an attempt to spellbind visiting politicians  and other men of influence. Blair has fallen for this hook, line and sinker. It's about reinforcing - often to the very people who are on the edge of condemning Globalization - the illusion that Globalization is 'good', 'popular' and that it's inevitable.
LOL!!!
You are so enlightened as to know for a fact that these people are all on the same page in their desire to attain power and money?
Charlie Rose attended and he doesn't strike me as that kind of person, in fact quite the opposite.
But lets assume for a moment he is, wouldn't exposing such a group bring him wealth and power over night if he were to expose such a group?

Of course it would, along with many of the other people on the list, but for some reason that simply hasn't happened in all their years of meetings...

Hmmmm, just tossing this out there, but could it be that maybe, just maybe, that.......



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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 08:03:45 PM »


pffffffffffft!

There is a vast difference between one person meeting privately with their attorney to discuss personal issues (or my siblings and I meeting privately to conspire for a surprise golden anniversary celebration for our parents) and for 120-140 of the world's wealthiest and most powerful to meet privately by invitation only.  You can bet what they discuss is of a personal nature also that will have a negative affect on the rest of the world. 

IMO it is not a stretch to suspect what they secretly  discuss is how to acquire even more wealth and power.  Surely they are not discussing how to redistribute their own wealth in charitable ways to benefit the underprivileged nations.


These meetings create an artificial 'consensus' in an attempt to spellbind visiting politicians  and other men of influence. Blair has fallen for this hook, line and sinker. It's about reinforcing - often to the very people who are on the edge of condemning Globalization - the illusion that Globalization is 'good', 'popular' and that it's inevitable.
What's globalization, in your opinion?

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 07:31:57 AM »

Charlie Rose attended and he doesn't strike me as that kind of person, in fact quite the opposite.
But lets assume for a moment he is, wouldn't exposing such a group bring him wealth and power over night if he were to expose such a group?



I have long admired Charlie Rose.  He is one of, if not the best informed interviewers on television.  He converses comfortably with every guest on just about any topic of discussion.  I believe he likes doing what he does.

But.. Geraldo he is not.  perhaps you are type-casting Charlie.  Besides,
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exposing such a group
might not be healthy for him.


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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 07:48:44 AM »
I have long admired Charlie Rose.  He is one of, if not the best informed interviewers on television.  He converses comfortably with every guest on just about any topic of discussion.  I believe he likes doing what he does.

But.. Geraldo he is not.  perhaps you are type-casting Charlie.  Besides,  might not be healthy for him.


Geraldo is an idiot, I didn't know he attended.

Now see, you are making assumptions based on your belief that they must be up to no good, therefore they will go to any length to keep control over anyone with information on the gtoup.

Do you realize just how outlandish that sounds?
It's ideas such as that, that allowed the Nazi party to grow.

The Joooos have a lot of money and therefore are evil and must destroyed before they destroy us.
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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 08:10:19 AM »
What's globalization, in your opinion?

For starters:

First, the globe refers to the whole planet; the world.  In my opinion "globalization" means the whole world is unified.

Consider a global currency.

Consider the World Court.  It already exists, but the United States (at this time) is only subject to the Court's opinions on a case by case basis.

Agenda 21 brings the whole world together on the issue of "sustainable development" to "protect the environment" and "save the planet".

(The U.N. believes we are over populated; we pollute too much and consume to much of the Earth's resources.  The U.N. is opposed to private property ownership and believes all  any of us are entitled to is "decent" living quarters and "adequate" diet)

The U.N.s answer to poverty is population control.

"Globalization" to me means there will be no borders and there will be one set of laws and a single defined punishment for each "crime" no matter where it is committed.

What do you think "globalization" means, arpad?


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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 02:32:01 PM »
Mostly I think globalization means international trade and specifically that international trade is such an awful thing that it ought to be shut down.

As for the rest of the items you mention, I'm not impressed.

The nearest thing to a global currency is the U.S. dollar and the reason's because the dollar's the best store of value.

The World Court has only as much authority as the U.S. government's willing to dole out to the court. If the court gets a bit too big for its britches we can just ignore it and nothing will happen other then, for all intents and purposes, the court will cease to exist.

Agenda 21, and the U.N. in its entirety, are worth a bucket, in the words of John Nance Garner, of warm piss. The U.N. is a political confection that's going stale and while I don't see it going away any time soon I also don't see it's power and authority increasing. So the U.N.s plans for population control aren't worth wasting your time upon and their plans for other greenie-weenie nonsense are similarly of very little interest due to the fact that they'll never be anything other then plans.

World government's been a dream of lefties for a hundred years and looks to be no nearer now then it was then.

Contrary to what lefties have been preaching, I don't see the nation-state going away any time soon. Sovereign nations have too much value to their citizens and if there's one lesson that can be drawn from the EU its that people are very loath to give up our national identities. The EU's run up against a brick wall in its efforts to erase national divisions within the EU and I don't see any international entity with the power of the EU so where's the political leverage supposed to come from to erase borders internationally?

From what I've seen, globalization is a new scare term used by those opposed to international trade.

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 04:40:55 PM »

The Joooos have a lot of money and therefore are evil and must destroyed before they destroy us.

Now who is being outlandish?

To my knowledge Geraldo has not been invited to attend any of the Bilderberg meetings, but he calls himself an "investigative reporter".   Charlie Rose does not.


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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 04:48:15 PM »
Mostly I think globalization means international trade and specifically that international trade is such an awful thing that it ought to be shut down.

As for the rest of the items you mention, I'm not impressed.

The nearest thing to a global currency is the U.S. dollar and the reason's because the dollar's the best store of value.

The World Court has only as much authority as the U.S. government's willing to dole out to the court. If the court gets a bit too big for its britches we can just ignore it and nothing will happen other then, for all intents and purposes, the court will cease to exist.

Agenda 21, and the U.N. in its entirety, are worth a bucket, in the words of John Nance Garner, of warm piss. The U.N. is a political confection that's going stale and while I don't see it going away any time soon I also don't see it's power and authority increasing. So the U.N.s plans for population control aren't worth wasting your time upon and their plans for other greenie-weenie nonsense are similarly of very little interest due to the fact that they'll never be anything other then plans.

World government's been a dream of lefties for a hundred years and looks to be no nearer now then it was then.

Contrary to what lefties have been preaching, I don't see the nation-state going away any time soon. Sovereign nations have too much value to their citizens and if there's one lesson that can be drawn from the EU its that people are very loath to give up our national identities. The EU's run up against a brick wall in its efforts to erase national divisions within the EU and I don't see any international entity with the power of the EU so where's the political leverage supposed to come from to erase borders internationally?

From what I've seen, globalization is a new scare term used by those opposed to international trade.

I am not even attempting to impress you.  You asked a question and I answered it.  I really don't give a rat's tail if you agree or not.

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2011, 04:51:12 PM »
Now who is being outlandish?

To my knowledge Geraldo has not been invited to attend any of the Bilderberg meetings, but he calls himself an "investigative reporter".   Charlie Rose does not.


So...I assume you have a point?
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2011, 03:51:08 AM »
I am not even attempting to impress you.  You asked a question and I answered it.  I really don't give a rat's tail if you agree or not.
Of course not. Why bandy words with a fool who's incapable of seeing the plain truth that's so apparent to you?

If anyone's gotten to the second sentence of this post, my theory is that conspiratorialism is a self-administered intelligence test that proves the insightfullness of the test-taker. Msbobbie's no exception.

A little bit of challenge to the various pronouncements proves I'm too stupid to see the oh-so-obvious truth, truth that's obvious to msbobbie, which leaves two options - elevate the nose so as not to be troubled by the stupid unbeliever or redouble efforts to try to beat the challenger into submission with a tsunami of text, but not of facts.

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Re: BILDERBERG GROUP EXPLAINED
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 08:39:11 AM »
How do we know this isn't an effort to discredit the Bilderbergers --- by the Bilderbergers themselves?


Now that they are internationally suspect (in the eyes of the Illuminati-fearing tinfoil-wearing "intelligentsia"), isn't it reasonable they'd want to downplay their importance by having palpably-suspect people try to discredit them?


As long as you're looking at THEM, you're not looking at the REAL conspiracy, see. And the one after that, and after that.

 

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