A Klinton Theory

[Solar]

Just thinking outside the box.
This sudden turn against Hitlery perplexed me, up to a point. Because she was their best chance, granted, she was headed for a definite loss/slaughter, but the entire party is in the same boat, so it matters not who they pick to run, they'll lose and lose badly.

So here's my theory. Get all the scandals out at one time, beat the Hell out of her in the media a year before the campaign. (LIVs have a short memory).
Now any normal person would probably walk away by after being exposed as a corrupt hypocrite, yet here she is, acting as if nothing happened, right?
Why is that, you ask?

Well I did too and the only conclusion I can come to, is they plan on saving her.
Now here's why this is in conspiracy . They beat her up, make some outlandish charge, maybe several, all bogus, run with them for a week or so, then evidence comes out proving her innocence, three scandals in a row, all proven false, maybe even infer Koch a connection, simply by invoking their names creates doubt to the LIV.

Suddenly Hitlery looks like a victim, and since all of these scandals were bogus, the media leaves the LIV with the idea that all the others were probably the results of a "Rightwing conspiracy" to bring her down.

I'm not saying this is a probability, just a possibility.
Remember, this woman has enough inside info to bring the entire DNC party to it's knees.

[supsalemgr]

Just thinking outside the box.
This sudden turn against Hitlery perplexed me, up to a point. Because she was their best chance, granted, she was headed for a definite loss/slaughter, but the entire party is in the same boat, so it matters not who they pick to run, they'll lose and lose badly.

So here's my theory. Get all the scandals out at one time, beat the Hell out of her in the media a year before the campaign. (LIVs have a short memory).
Now any normal person would probably walk away by after being exposed as a corrupt hypocrite, yet here she is, acting as if nothing happened, right?
Why is that, you ask?

Well I did too and the only conclusion I can come to, is they plan on saving her.
Now here's why this is in conspiracy . They beat her up, make some outlandish charge, maybe several, all bogus, run with them for a week or so, then evidence comes out proving her innocence, three scandals in a row, all proven false, maybe even infer Koch a connection, simply by invoking their names creates doubt to the LIV.

Suddenly Hitlery looks like a victim, and since all of these scandals were bogus, the media leaves the LIV with the idea that all the others were probably the results of a "Rightwing conspiracy" to bring her down.

I'm not saying this is a probability, just a possibility.
Remember, this woman has enough inside info to bring the entire DNC party to it's knees.

You may be onto something. Why not get it out there and believe it will go away? She has no serious competition for the nomination and they know the MSM will support her fully. Clinton, Inc. would love to play the victim card. However, this time it will not play. Hillary is a known commodity. She is a terrible candidate. What record she has is bad. Unless the GOP goes soft gloves with her she has no chance as she cannot hide who and what she is.

[Solar]

You may be onto something. Why not get it out there and believe it will go away? She has no serious competition for the nomination and they know the MSM will support her fully. Clinton, Inc. would love to play the victim card. However, this time it will not play. Hillary is a known commodity. She is a terrible candidate. What record she has is bad. Unless the GOP goes soft gloves with her she has no chance as she cannot hide who and what she is.

Exactly the point. She is despised, hated by most people, but if they can create a victim?
And yes, the GOP will probably play along, these people are scum and would happily sell us out to keep the status quo.

[kroz]

Exactly the point. She is despised, hated by most people, but if they can create a victim?
And yes, the GOP will probably play along, these people are scum and would happily sell us out to keep the status quo.

When you look at all the perceived voting blocs in this Country.... across the board the TPers are the most loathed by all the other groups.  We are one faction that all the others can agree to hate.  We are vilified like no others.

The irony is that our bloc consists of the nicest of all people and the most honorable.

You are right.  The RINOs would rather lose to the democrats than to lose to us.

All evil despises anything good.    We have a tendency to shine light into dark corners.

[supsalemgr]

When you look at all the perceived voting blocs in this Country.... across the board the TPers are the most loathed by all the other groups.  We are one faction that all the others can agree to hate.  We are vilified like no others.

The irony is that our bloc consists of the nicest of all people and the most honorable.

You are right.  The RINOs would rather lose to the democrats than to lose to us.

All evil despises anything good.    We have a tendency to shine light into dark corners.

"The irony is that our bloc consists of the nicest of all people and the most honorable.

This is what scares the Hell out of them. They do not know how to deal with a term they are totally unfamiliar with.

I disagree a little with you in that not all hate the TEA movement. They are just not vocal, but they vote. See 2010 and 2014.

[Solar]

"The irony is that our bloc consists of the nicest of all people and the most honorable.

This is what scares the Hell out of them. They do not know how to deal with a term they are totally unfamiliar with.

I disagree a little with you in that not all hate the TEA movement. They are just not vocal, but they vote. See 2010 and 2014.

Not only that, but I believe the majority agree with TEA ideals. It's incumbent upon us to spell that message out clearly.
The TEA group in my area was usurped by a church group that drove away most of the members, and regardless, TEA is not about religion, it's about returning govt to the people.
Religion is something that will benefit and have more freedom if TEA has it's way.

But I digress, Hitlery and the GOP despise TEA, but in doing so, alienate the base, the good people of this nation by attacking the very ideals of our Founders.
I know both the GOP and Dims realize their time is quickly running out, but are totally clueless as to how to deal with a nation that's had it's fill of corruption of both party's.

[kroz]

Not only that, but I believe the majority agree with TEA ideals. It's incumbent upon us to spell that message out clearly.
The TEA group in my area was usurped by a church group that drove away most of the members, and regardless, TEA is not about religion, it's about returning govt to the people.
Religion is something that will benefit and have more freedom if TEA has it's way.

But I digress, Hitlery and the GOP despise TEA, but in doing so, alienate the base, the good people of this nation by attacking the very ideals of our Founders.
I know both the GOP and Dims realize their time is quickly running out, but are totally clueless as to how to deal with a nation that's had it's fill of corruption of both party's.

That was an interesting post.  How did the church group drive off TEA members?  If it stayed on  political issues, the TEA is usually aligned with most beliefs of church folks.  Religion should not factor into anything.  Was it about social issues like gay marriage and abortion?  I realize you are among many liberal folks in California.  I suppose some of your group were just fiscal conservatives.   Right?  The Conservative movement in general is very much against abortion and gay marriage which could be deemed "religious" issues.

Not all TEA groups are created equal.  That is why we are best served to not have national leadership.

[Solar]

That was an interesting post.  How did the church group drive off TEA members?  If it stayed on  political issues, the TEA is usually aligned with most beliefs of church folks.  Religion should not factor into anything.  Was it about social issues like gay marriage and abortion?  I realize you are among many liberal folks in California.  I suppose some of your group were just fiscal conservatives.   Right?  The Conservative movement in general is very much against abortion and gay marriage which could be deemed "religious" issues.

Not all TEA groups are created equal.  That is why we are best served to not have national leadership.

Usurped may have been the wrong term to use, considering it was a church group that founded it originally and kept it strictly TEA principle.
As time went by, they slowly began instituting abortion, gay issues etc, began instituting prayer before and after meetings.
I watched as 80% left and never returned, not everyone is religious, that's just a reality.

But that is not what this thread is about, it's about whether or not the left is playing a media game for Klinton.
They have decades invested in her, and to turn around and not only throw it out, but burn the bridge behind her simply strikes me as odd.

Klinton isn't stupid, she's smart enough to recognize when she isn't wanted, and when it appears that the majority coupled with leftist media try and destroy you, you walk away rich, very stinkin rich.
But here she is still running?
This is not normal human behavior in anyway, there is something else going on.
Why would you stay where you aren't wanted, unless you knew the future outcome.

[kroz]

Usurped may have been the wrong term to use, considering it was a church group that founded it originally and kept it strictly TEA principle.
As time went by, they slowly began instituting abortion, gay issues etc, began instituting prayer before and after meetings.
I watched as 80% left and never returned, not everyone is religious, that's just a reality.

But that is not what this thread is about, it's about whether or not the left is playing a media game for Klinton.
They have decades invested in her, and to turn around and not only throw it out, but burn the bridge behind her simply strikes me as odd.

Klinton isn't stupid, she's smart enough to recognize when she isn't wanted, and when it appears that the majority coupled with leftist media try and destroy you, you walk away rich, very stinkin rich.
But here she is still running?
This is not normal human behavior in anyway, there is something else going on.
Why would you stay where you aren't wanted, unless you knew the future outcome.

This is an internal power struggle much like we have in the GOP but they keep their dirty laundry as secret as possible.

It is obviously not about money.  The Clintons have bucket loads already.   This is about power and influence and for Hillary it is also about her legacy.  Right now it is in tatters.  She wants to bask in the limelight and appear on the cover of a magazine with her own halo!

Right now that dream is being threatened.  Expect a lot of mud to fly!

[Solar]

This is an internal power struggle much like we have in the GOP but they keep their dirty laundry as secret as possible.

It is obviously not about money.  The Clintons have bucket loads already.   This is about power and influence and for Hillary it is also about her legacy.  Right now it is in tatters.  She wants to bask in the limelight and appear on the cover of a magazine with her own halo!

Right now that dream is being threatened.  Expect a lot of mud to fly!

And that's what makes this so puzzling. She is at the bottom of her career, the media is beating the crap out of her, with the prospects of it only getting worse.
So why not quit while you're still ahead, why wait till it's bloody and unbearable, why wait for them to destroy any future chances of earning an income from speaking engagements?

The only answer that makes any sense, is she knows the outcome, because it was all planned.
I'm not a conspiracy kind of guy, but this is Klinton and the Marxist party, I take nothing for granted any longer..

This whole scenario slaps in the face of normmal human behavior.

[kroz]

And that's what makes this so puzzling. She is at the bottom of her career, the media is beating the crap out of her, with the prospects of it only getting worse.
So why not quit while you're still ahead, why wait till it's bloody and unbearable, why wait for them to destroy any future chances of earning an income from speaking engagements?

The only answer that makes any sense, is she knows the outcome, because it was all planned.
I'm not a conspiracy kind of guy, but this is Klinton and the Marxist party, I take nothing for granted any longer..

This whole scenario slaps in the face of normmal human behavior.

You could very well be right.  Their shenanigans are endless.

But another factor may be Bill.  He probably wants this more than Hillary.  He would love to return to the WH.... and not in a backseat role.  Hillary could be his front guy/gal.  I suspect she gets a fair amount of pressure from Bill to keep hanging in there.  He assures her that he can help her over the hump.

But the look on her face tells me that her heart is not in this race.

[supsalemgr]

And that's what makes this so puzzling. She is at the bottom of her career, the media is beating the crap out of her, with the prospects of it only getting worse.
So why not quit while you're still ahead, why wait till it's bloody and unbearable, why wait for them to destroy any future chances of earning an income from speaking engagements?

The only answer that makes any sense, is she knows the outcome, because it was all planned.
I'm not a conspiracy kind of guy, but this is Klinton and the Marxist party, I take nothing for granted any longer..

This whole scenario slaps in the face of normmal human behavior.

Never under estimate the influence of ego. It defies logic and that is where we are now as you and kroz have so well defined. Also, keep in mind the Clintons are senior hippies with the same philosophy they had in the 60's. Also, I believe your theory of obligation to the big money donors plays a part. That may explain her lack of passion. She doesn't really wants to do this, but has to give it a try. If she loses that fulfills the obligation.

[Solar]

You could very well be right.  Their shenanigans are endless.

But another factor may be Bill.  He probably wants this more than Hillary.  He would love to return to the WH.... and not in a backseat role.  Hillary could be his front guy/gal.  I suspect she gets a fair amount of pressure from Bill to keep hanging in there.  He assures her that he can help her over the hump.

But the look on her face tells me that her heart is not in this race.

If that were the case, why isn't he out there campaigning for her?

[Solar]

Never under estimate the influence of ego. It defies logic and that is where we are now as you and kroz have so well defined. Also, keep in mind the Clintons are senior hippies with the same philosophy they had in the 60's. Also, I believe your theory of obligation to the big money donors plays a part. That may explain her lack of passion. She doesn't really wants to do this, but has to give it a try. If she loses that fulfills the obligation.

Totally agree, but, even ego knows when to step back and regroup, instead she is bucking a trend of opposition that builds daily.
This goes beyond ego and borders on insanity. Unless we're not privy to insider information.

[supsalemgr]

Totally agree, but, even ego knows when to step back and regroup, instead she is bucking a trend of opposition that builds daily.
This goes beyond ego and borders on insanity. Unless we're not privy to insider information.

I think with 100% accuracy that there is always inside information when it comes to Clinton Inc.