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Debating a Lib
« on: December 25, 2018, 02:37:42 PM »
Thought I throw this here, since it's a throw away post anyway.
I was on Disquss posting about the campfire fire, when some moron thought he was smarter than everyone else and challenged me.
Yes, this is what I do on a regular basis when not on the forum, this is my break period. I know a lot of you do this as well, so feel free to add your ass kicking sessions as well. :biggrin:

Here, I was complimenting someone that posted about having to hire security to log, when an idiot replied to me.

conservativepoliticalforum.com  SF • 8 hours ago
Good post. Your father and I share a similar history. I was patrolling the ElDorado forest during that time, and all the logging Co's had to hire security to keep the freaks away.

 

gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • 7 hours ago
Logging has very little to do with fire prevention


conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • 6 hours ago
Shut Up Moron! I live in the Sierra, fought fires 30 years ago, even though I've cleared my land of slash and fall, the national forest 300' away is the real threat since the grounds are covered in manzanita and fall from trees.


gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • 6 hours ago
So go clean it. I live in Colorado. No one will stop you from clearing undergrowth or beetle kill.
My neighbor does no fire mitigation. Should the government force him?



conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • 5 hours ago
BULL!!! There are laws in place that stop you from cutting/clearing USFS land without a permit, and to get a permit is next to impossible, think "years" after having gone to court.
I know, my neighbor lost, and after three years, the Ponderosa pine fell on his house anyway.
Keep in mind, this is Ca, not just any state.
Your neighbor is an idiot, and it sounds like you two deserve one another.
But you and I both know you're lying.



gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • 5 hours ago
I get a permit every year to cut firewood. Costs 20 dollars for 2 cords at a time. Beetle kill trees. There is no sales tax on products made from from it

 

conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • 5 hours ago
Yes, you can get a permit, but only after the USFS has done the initial dropping of dead trees, no, you are not allowed to go into the forest and simply drop a dead tree.
They have rules in place that protect trees, "Dead trees could provide animal habitat."
I know more about this than you can google in a year.



gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • 4 hours ago
You are ignorant of what we do here. I select the dead trees to cut down. A few are marked to remain but 99 percent aren't.

 

conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • 4 hours ago
You're a liar! I know the regs where the USFS is concerned, and only they mark the trees first, then they drop them, then allow you to buy a ticket for a cord of wood already on the ground.
Everyone here knows you're lying, because insurance prohibits you from doing the falling and possibly killing someone else cutting already downed trees..


 

gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • 3 hours ago
They don't stop me

 

conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • 2 hours ago
So, you admit you lied, when in fact, you're breaking the law.

 

gizmo23  conservativepoliticalforum.com • an hour ago
Believe what you wish, bye

 

conservativepoliticalforum.com  gizmo23 • an hour ago
Your words gave you away. I'll remember you in the future as a liar. I suggest you avoid replying to me in the future.
I have no use for liars.


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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2019, 12:58:15 PM »
security to log?

i got lost there...

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2019, 01:27:07 PM »
security to log?

i got lost there...
Logging companies had to hire security to keep greenies from sabotaging their equipment and driving nails in trees. Think "Earth Firsters".
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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2019, 02:09:54 PM »
Logging companies had to hire security to keep greenies from sabotaging their equipment and driving nails in trees. Think "Earth Firsters".
ok, thanks for explaining.

now it may make sense so i will go back and read post

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2019, 04:33:06 PM »
Logging companies had to hire security to keep greenies from sabotaging their equipment and driving nails in trees. Think "Earth Firsters".

Ya I was wondering that myself, why you need security in the middle of a forest. Although I know there are mountain lions around, they are making a big comeback out here on the great plains. Is logging more often done near settlements for ease of transport or way out in the wilderness?


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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2019, 05:42:16 PM »
Ya I was wondering that myself, why you need security in the middle of a forest. Although I know there are mountain lions around, they are making a big comeback out here on the great plains. Is logging more often done near settlements for ease of transport or way out in the wilderness?
Way out in the wilderness. Sure, there are sects of land nearby to log, but the older growth is harder to get to but these ecofreaks were still out threatening the operation.
Now that Klinton killed off most of the mills, they have to transport logs hundreds of miles, which only increased the price of lumber.
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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2019, 08:47:31 PM »
If you have freaks messing with your operation, don't forget you have tree cutting equipment.

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2019, 05:34:48 AM »
If you have freaks messing with your operation, don't forget you have tree cutting equipment.

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Including industrial chippers. There  were rumors, kind of. :biggrin:
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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2019, 12:52:01 PM »
Including industrial chippers. There  were rumors, kind of. :biggrin:

As long as they do a good job cleaning them out.  Greenies aren't known for their hygiene.

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2019, 01:11:18 PM »
As long as they do a good job cleaning them out.  Greenies aren't known for their hygiene.
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That explains why you always see them running incense cedar through them at the end of a job.
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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2019, 03:22:53 AM »
Notice how when arguing with most libs, they will assert what they believe to be fact right off the bat, but once it is disproved, they immediately go into the character attacks. This is the best case for anyone debating them, as they have already proven their weakness and ill-informed mindset. The hardest part of me is not going right back at them. I just continue to assert the fact until the snowflake just gives up and melts away

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2019, 06:30:47 AM »
Notice how when arguing with most libs, they will assert what they believe to be fact right off the bat, but once it is disproved, they immediately go into the character attacks. This is the best case for anyone debating them, as they have already proven their weakness and ill-informed mindset. The hardest part of me is not going right back at them. I just continue to assert the fact until the snowflake just gives up and melts away
That's the thing, they believe lies are truths because it was taught through emotion, so no amount of fact is going to change their minds.
This fool decided to challenge me, so he'd go off and do research to prove me wrong, only to discover I was telling all truths against his emotional BS.
Libs hate nothing more than having their religion challenged. I love nothing more than challenging their religion. :biggrin:
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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2019, 06:35:36 AM »
Notice how when arguing with most libs, they will assert what they believe to be fact right off the bat, but once it is disproved, they immediately go into the character attacks. This is the best case for anyone debating them, as they have already proven their weakness and ill-informed mindset. The hardest part of me is not going right back at them. I just continue to assert the fact until the snowflake just gives up and melts away
Love when a llib says "you can't prove that" and then they are shown the proof.

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Re: Debating a Lib
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2019, 06:38:44 AM »
Love when a llib says "you can't prove that" and then they are shown the proof.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: That really seems to set them off. OF course then they will try and discredit is as much as they can with some baseless accusation against the study, author, or general discussion topic in general. This is where they usually bring up all the 'isms' as a means to further detract.

 

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